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THE ORVILLE - S1, E4: "IF THE STARS SHOULD APPEAR"...

Are you really saying that the Orville is some kind of time capsule from the 80's, untouched by the passing decades..?

Just watch it and see for yousrelf. For all intents and purposes it is. No, it's not going outright lo-fi like Kung Fury, but it's taking the stylistic conventions of the 80s and simply executing them with modern technology. You can call it more of an 80s revival in the same way Star Wars brought back conventions from the late 30s, the romantic swashbuckling style and the Korngold style soundtrack, but then added motion-control blue-screen photography.
 
Just watch it and see for yousrelf. For all intents and purposes it is. No, it's not going outright lo-fi like Kung Fury, but it's taking the stylistic conventions of the 80s and simply executing them with modern technology. You can call it more of an 80s revival in the same way Star Wars brought back conventions from the late 30s, the romantic swashbuckling style and the Korngold style soundtrack, but then added motion-control blue-screen photography.

Whatever you want to call it, I'm definitely enjoying the ride.
 
TV and movies leave a lot out because viewers most often will fill in the blanks. That's S.O.P. for any TV show or movie. I'm currently writing a script, and in one scene I cut from someone waking up from a nightmare to that same person, fully dressed with their hair still damp, brushing their teeth in front of a bathroom mirror that's covered in condensation that they proceed to wipe off. I did this because the audience will fill in the blanks that the character decided not to go back to sleep and has already taken a shower and dressed.

Never works with me, because during these seconds of filling out, I am 1. irritated, 2. questioning, 3. imagining, 4. trying to get back into the story. By showing the process, all these four steps dont happen and I stay in the story.

It's just lazy writing/producing and putting the blame for that onto the consumer of the product.
 
No, the "filling" in you're describing is a recipe for boredom and serves no good purpose beyond assuaging nitpicking. It's a good part of what killed 1987-2005 era Star Trek in the end.

This kind of elided storytelling moves the show along and asks for engagement from the audience - TOS did a great deal of it.
 
Never works with me, because during these seconds of filling out, I am 1. irritated, 2. questioning, 3. imagining, 4. trying to get back into the story. By showing the process, all these four steps dont happen and I stay in the story.
It's just lazy writing/producing and putting the blame for that onto the consumer of the product.

Am I misunderstanding or you want to see everything play out in real-time? No time-compression whatsoever? That can't be the case because nothing works this way other than maybe American Graffiti and 24.
 
Never works with me, because during these seconds of filling out, I am 1. irritated, 2. questioning, 3. imagining, 4. trying to get back into the story. By showing the process, all these four steps dont happen and I stay in the story.

It's just lazy writing/producing and putting the blame for that onto the consumer of the product.
Ugh. That kind "show everything" approach to story telling is not only often mindnumbingly dull, it also implies the audience is a collection of idiots. I HATE having Everything. Spelled. Out.
 
I think, when it comes to time cuts, there's a certain art in how you set them up. They have to be intuitive for the viewer. You have to have enough context to draw from to fill in the blanks, or else you're left doing too much intellectual heavy lifting, and you end up loosing your suspension of disbelief. That's why I thought the scene needed a tad more lead in, where the captain and the doctor are standing there waiting as Issac approaches. It would have made the cut less taxing on the audience. That said, the cut didn't really bother me that much. It was clear what happened in the interim.
 
Am I misunderstanding or you want to see everything play out in real-time? No time-compression whatsoever? That can't be the case because nothing works this way other than maybe American Graffiti and 24.

Even 24 largely cheated with the "real time" thing.
 
Plus it sure was convenient that despite the clock continuing to tick during commercials, nothing important happened then.

Could you imagine, though?

7:48:50... 7:48:51... 7:48:52... 7:48:53...

:commercials:

7:53:35... 7:53:36... 7:53:37... 7:53:38...

"Jack! We heard over the phone The White House was just blown up 15 seconds ago!"
 
Ugh. That kind "show everything" approach to story telling is not only often mindnumbingly dull, it also implies the audience is a collection of idiots. I HATE having Everything. Spelled. Out.
Could you have had least misspelled something that post? ;)

Also, there seems to be less and less willingness to engage the material in any substantial way of any series.
 
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