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The Ordeal - and how I learned the hard way

Mr Silver

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"The ordeal" is a term which I have applied to my recent series of dental treatments. It's my own fault really, I'm 23 but I neglected my teeth and overall dental hygiene throughout my teenage years. As a result I was left with several problems.

The ordeal began in October when a large piece of one of wisdom teeth broke off and left the root exposed. As an admitted procrastinator, I put off seeking treatment until January, when I was in excruciating agony and had taken the maximum recommended doses of both Ibuprofen and Paracetamol. Fortunately for me, my dentist (who I hadn't met prior to then) was able to fit me in and extracted the problematic tooth in question. On a side note, I stopped smoking on that very day, I had my last cigarette just before I went into the dental practise and I haven't smoked since - it's now approaching 6 months!

So everything was great for a while, I had no more excruciating periods of dental pain and by quitting smoking I'd not only saved myself money, reduced the chances of developing cancer dramatically and restored any functions diminished by prolonged smoking, but I had taken a major cause of dental problems (smoking) out of the picture. My overall dental health also improved as I had become more aware of proper dental hygiene. But nearly a decade of poor dental hygiene and neglect doesn't just go away, not unless you are really lucky...

Last month I noticed a large cavity had developed in one of my teeth, it was painless and mainly just an irritant, but I decided to seek dental help immediately, so I went along to see my dentist. He did a couple of X-rays and told me that the decay was pretty extensive and I needed to have root canal, so I grudgingly accepted this treatment and spent the next 20 minutes having my tooth drilled into, having the root removed by way of these horrible looking plastic files and finally having gutta percha melted into the now empty canal. For a procedure that is often spoken with dread, it wasn't particularly invasive (ignore my previous description, I'm just being overly descriptive for the sake of it!).

Anyway, during the same session my dentist surveyed the X-rays and put together a treatment plan. My face dropped when he said that I would need 8 fillings (yes, you read that right) and that I had pretty extensive internal decay in a couple of those teeth. Regardless, I decided that it just wasn't worth the hassle to screw around and put this off so I gave the OK to proceed with the treatment and in just two appointments over a three week period I had the decay purged and my teeth restructured with good old amalgam fillings! It wasn't all smiles (pun intended) as when I went back to have the root canal treated tooth perma-filled, we discovered that a tiny shard of nerve was still intact - by way of me jumping two feet off the chair dentist inserted a fine file into the tooth canal!

Anyway, one week after the final series of fillings I'm feeling pretty good and my teeth are in decent shape for the first time in years. There have been times in the last few months where I've been in unnecessary pain because A) I neglected my teeth for several years and B) because I put off seeing the dentist. When I was younger, people ALWAYS said "take care of your teeth" and the like, but I ignored them and as a result I've faced some pretty nasty issues and have been left with the possibility that my teeth may need to be "replaced" (hopefully dentistry will improve to the point that things like dentures and bridges are discarded) later on in my life. I'd urge anyone to not leave your dental health to chance, brush twice daily for at least two minutes, attend dental checkups at least twice a year and please, go see your dentist at the first sign of trouble because I wouldn't wish some of the pain I've experienced on my worst enemy!

Anyway, now that I've rambled on about my ordeal, has anyone else had similar experiences?
 
This is typically the way the story ends for those that brag about never going to the dentist, but having great teeth. Until, I suppose, they don't...
 
I second the congrats on not smoking! And now you can embark on a new journey of oral hygiene! Time for floss and regular fluoride treatments!

I never got the whole dentist fear...maybe because I had a great dentist as a kid. It was always a treat to go and see him (I recall he had glued plastic pig snouts to all the novocaine masks, and he had the coolest ever two-story playhouse in the waiting room. That dentist, coupled with my mom's neuroses about oral hygiene inherited from her father, who was the head of the University of Washington Dental school, meant that I've always taken exceptional care of my teeth. I still have to get a crown on one, though, because the pitted olives I bought weren't entirely pit-free! And I have to get my last wisdom tooth out, which I'm both excited about and dreading. It is a partial boney impacted tooth, and (like my other lower wisdom tooth) is deformed; it is about 30% larger than it ought to be and has an extra root! This all means anesthesia, and anesthesia means FUN! And I actually don't mind the pain so much either, or the necessary 3 days of smoothies. What I'm really dreading is the numbing. I can't stand the feeling of a numbed face, and for some reason on me it always lasts several hours longer than the norm!
 
You think 8 fillings after years of neglecting teeth is bad...I actually took care of my teeth as a child, yet I never had even one visit where I didn't have a cavity. I went every 6 months, and on one particular visit around 10 years old I had 10 new cavities. I have always feared the dentist greatly because it means intense pain every time. My teeth and gums are very sensitive, as you can probably guess. The dentist also said that genetically I have very soft enamel. Now, 20 years later, I don't have dental insurance, and I know that when I go in it will need to be for a hell of a lot more than a simple cleaning, so I just don't go. I also don't go because the thought of doing so gives me intense anxiety attacks. I've resigned myself to the fact that these teeth I was born with are useless pieces of shit and I will need some serious work done once I miraculously come into some money.
 
Admiral M, like you, I also went for an extended period of time avoiding dentists entirely. For me, it was caused by a dentist trying to use scare tactics on me. In my case, after that I didn't set foot into a dentist's office for nine years. When I started to have pain and bleeding in my gums, I finally went in. Other than a few extra cleanings, I think the only problem I had was one small cavity. When I first went in, I did a cleaning that i paid for entirely and then returned a month later for a cleaning using my dental insurance. I also went in every four months for a couple of years after that.

Scout, I used to be one of those people you describe, and I still have great teeth. I'm just smarter than I used to be...

Admiral M, one of the things that my dental hygienist suggested that has really, really helped improve my dental hygiene was the purchase of a Sonicare toothbrush. They're expensive (about $50-$60), but they are sooo worth it. When she recommended that I purchase one, my Dad already owned one and he was able to attest to how much better these are than a standard toothbrush. Now, pretty much my entire extended family uses them. One of the best features is a timer that shuts the toothbrush off after two minutes (recommended brushing time).

Also, finding a dentist and dental hygienist that you like (i.e. one that isn't rough, doesn't put a lot of pressure on your teeth as they work, etc) is also important. I lucked out the first time I walked into my current dentist's office and found one that I liked right away. One of my subsequent visits to the same office had me seeing one of their other hygienists, who would be better suited to be a Drill Instructor for the Army. Now, I make sure that I only go in on days when the first person is available.
 
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You think 8 fillings after years of neglecting teeth is bad...I actually took care of my teeth as a child, yet I never had even one visit where I didn't have a cavity. I went every 6 months, and on one particular visit around 10 years old I had 10 new cavities. I have always feared the dentist greatly because it means intense pain every time. My teeth and gums are very sensitive, as you can probably guess. The dentist also said that genetically I have very soft enamel. Now, 20 years later, I don't have dental insurance, and I know that when I go in it will need to be for a hell of a lot more than a simple cleaning, so I just don't go. I also don't go because the thought of doing so gives me intense anxiety attacks. I've resigned myself to the fact that these teeth I was born with are useless pieces of shit and I will need some serious work done once I miraculously come into some money.

I was like you, always took good care of my teeth but always had cavities when I went in. It was usually around three. I dreaded going to the dentist because sometimes they would basically yell at me and call me a liar about brushing my teeth, on top of everything else.

As an adult I didn't go to the dentist until two years ago, and it took a lot of courage. I have anxiety problems sometimes so I know what you mean. I was expecting all my teeth to be rotten.

They took x-rays and did the cleaning, and then the dentist said, "Okay." I kept waiting for him to tell me about all the fillings I needed. He never did. Finally I just asked him how many cavities I had and he looked at me in surprise and said I didn't have any and didn't need a follow-up visit. I was stunned!

I haven't gone since then since I don't have dental right now, but I'm not as scared now. Even if I have cavities next time, I won't mind. Just getting that one terrifying visit out of the way has made a world of difference.
 
You think 8 fillings after years of neglecting teeth is bad...I actually took care of my teeth as a child, yet I never had even one visit where I didn't have a cavity. I went every 6 months, and on one particular visit around 10 years old I had 10 new cavities. I have always feared the dentist greatly because it means intense pain every time. My teeth and gums are very sensitive, as you can probably guess. The dentist also said that genetically I have very soft enamel. Now, 20 years later, I don't have dental insurance, and I know that when I go in it will need to be for a hell of a lot more than a simple cleaning, so I just don't go. I also don't go because the thought of doing so gives me intense anxiety attacks. I've resigned myself to the fact that these teeth I was born with are useless pieces of shit and I will need some serious work done once I miraculously come into some money.
I'm actually the same, though I haven't had as many cavities...I think I've had 6 or 7 in my life. My dentist said I have deep grooves...the natural pits in my teeth are too deep which cause easy cavity formation despite good hygiene. I've never had much pain with fillings, though...I actually got two done last month with no anesthetic; they weren't too deep and I prefer the pain to the numbness. The dentist used a slow drill and while it was a bit sore, it wasn't bad.
 
I dreaded going to the dentist because sometimes they would basically yell at me and call me a liar about brushing my teeth, on top of everything else.

That's the worst part of it, and a big reason I hate going to the dentist. They've made me cry on more than one occasion. Usually it is while they are looking at the x-rays, shaking their heads and telling me what a terrible job I've done with taking care of my teeth and how it's all my fault and everything is ruined. It sounds dramatic, but they really do "yell" at you, even if they aren't raising their voice.

As an adult I didn't go to the dentist until two years ago, and it took a lot of courage. I have anxiety problems sometimes so I know what you mean. I was expecting all my teeth to be rotten.

They took x-rays and did the cleaning, and then the dentist said, "Okay." I kept waiting for him to tell me about all the fillings I needed. He never did. Finally I just asked him how many cavities I had and he looked at me in surprise and said I didn't have any and didn't need a follow-up visit. I was stunned!

I haven't gone since then since I don't have dental right now, but I'm not as scared now. Even if I have cavities next time, I won't mind. Just getting that one terrifying visit out of the way has made a world of difference.

Ugh, you are so lucky! I already know that I have several cavities and need a couple of root canals, and I need crowns on nearly all of my top teeth, especially my two front teeth. I was told all of this at my last dentist visit several years ago now, but haven't had dental insurance since then, so I just try to pretend it doesn't exist right now. Luckily, even though I have all these issues and I find getting fillings quite painful (not the drilling part, but the shot of novocaine is just terrible, compounded by my intense fear of needles), I don't actually have tooth pain on a normal basis. If I drink something too cold or eat a lot of ice cream, or if I eat something really sweet like iced donuts, they start to ache, but otherwise there is no pain.

This thread is depressing, I need to take a break and think about rainbows and kittens. :lol:
 
I dreaded going to the dentist because sometimes they would basically yell at me and call me a liar about brushing my teeth, on top of everything else.

That's the worst part of it, and a big reason I hate going to the dentist. They've made me cry on more than one occasion. Usually it is while they are looking at the x-rays, shaking their heads and telling me what a terrible job I've done with taking care of my teeth and how it's all my fault and everything is ruined. It sounds dramatic, but they really do "yell" at you, even if they aren't raising their voice.

Wow, that's really awful! I've never had that experience with dentists, though I've had it all the time with endocrinologists. I've had doctors be outright cruel to me about my diabetes, telling me I'm just not working hard enough or trying hard enough -- and, while it wouldn't make their behavior any more acceptable, I have type 1 diabetes, not type 2. I finally found a doctor who is more understanding, though, and it's made all the difference.
 
That's the worst part of it, and a big reason I hate going to the dentist. They've made me cry on more than one occasion. Usually it is while they are looking at the x-rays, shaking their heads and telling me what a terrible job I've done with taking care of my teeth and how it's all my fault and everything is ruined. It sounds dramatic, but they really do "yell" at you, even if they aren't raising their voice.

When I was younger, I had to have a couple of teeth out with gas for the anesthetic. It didn't take, but the dentist said I was just having a nightmare. Needless to say, I haven't been to that one again. (It also looks like it has since closed)

I'm still wary around dentists but my current one isn't so bad. For one appointment, they gave me a sedative but I ended up panicking them as it was just supposed to be enough to make me not worry. It took them a couple of hours to wake me up.
 
WOW! Congrats on both stopping smoking and getting everything taken care of. YOu will be happier in the future without the problems neglected teeth would bring.

And your description of root canal is spot on--people really think it’s a lot worse than it is! the hardest thing for me was keeping my mouth open for so long, but then they started using some device to keep it open. The only other bad part was the numbing meds started to wear off--so I got 3 shots into the tooth directly. Oh, I’ve had THREE root canals.

One of those root-canal-ed teeth cracked a few years later and had to be removed and replaced with an implant. THAT was unnerving (no pun intended). All prior drilling had been to a tooth, this was drilling into my jaw. Not painful, but the vibrations to my entire head were nerve wracking. Again, no pun intended.

Besides all that, I’ve had 15 crowns on eight teeth. All my molars. Three of which were the aforementioned root canals. I have a VERY hard bite at night and have worn a mouth guard for years. Most of the damage was before, as my prior dentists did not suggest a mouth guard. Maybe they saw money in my mouth. As it is, there literally is money in my mouth. Due to my heavy bite, all crowns must be gold. And my deforming even the gold has resulted in replacements--any other material and I’d just shatter them.
 
Reading the OP's post I was overcome with the urge to floss.

I had flossed before reading, and am glad I did.

I do alright with my teeth, but I do get a chipped tooth or cavity that needs fixing every once in a while. My dentist is pretty good, very nice and calm. I don't feel apprehensive anymore, unlike when I was a child, and feared having a cavity (hate the shots, and the numb face/tounge).

I do have to use a special floride toothpaste, due to the enamal on my teeth wearing away at the gumline (use twice a day). Also means I need to cut down on sugary food/drinks. Oh well!
 
I just went to the dentist last week and they found a wisdom tooth, which wouldn't be remarkable if I wasn't 37 and hadn't been told repeatedly that I didn't have any wisdom teeth. They did one of those around-the-head x-rays and apparently no previous x-ray had ever quite covered the spot where this tooth was hiding. I wasn't at all thrilled to hear this (nor the term "extraction" being tossed around), but at least it hasn't erupted and right now the dentist is inclined to leave it well enough alone unless problems occur. In fact they're theorizing that it may close up some spaces I have between my current teeth. I could live with that.

During college and a couple of years of no dental benefits I went on a vacation from the dentist. When I got back my gums were the main trouble spot, and for a time they had me going in every 3 months for maintenance. That said, after using a special mouthwash, upgrading my electric toothbrush and getting into the habit of flossing...well, semi-regularly...things seem to be on the up and up now, and I'm really much happier for it. I'll admit I may be luckier than many, as I don't drink carbonated beverages or coffee, which may have helped.

Going back to the dentist after a break sucks, but I can't stress strongly enough how much I'd encourage people to do it. Anything that might be bad now will probably only be worse later.
 
I've been fortunate to have good dentists (save for one) and mostly good orthodontists, too--and with the extensive orthodontic work I needed when I was younger, that was a REALLY good thing. That and I also have an extremely high pain tolerance for anything the dentist or orthodontist does, so it takes a lot to freak me out.

About the berating, though--yeah, some hygenists are really awful about it. And I did have one dentist when I was little that my mom believes--and I think it's true, given that I NEVER get cavities--made up a cavity just to teach me (and my parents) some sort of fake "lesson" and get some money out of them.

One thing I do that really helps a lot is Act fluoride rinse, and have used it faithfully since I was very little. I still use the kids' bubble gum flavor even though I'm definitely not a kid. (Because I don't think being an adult means you suddenly lose the "right" not to be subjected to something that tastes nasty. ;) ) I've also discovered that in the month before a dentist appointment, if you use the Pro-Health toothpaste, it'll knock out the gum inflammation that always makes the hygenist wrongly...or even rightly...accuse you of not flossing. :evil:

The only thing about the dentist is that I always have to warn them--and the hygenist--every time, DO NOT MESS WITH MY JAW. All the orthodontic work, and inheriting a weak jaw, means I most definitely have TMJ. And I have no wish to go through surgery and all that crap if I can help it.
 
Oh, I should mention that when I was a kid I got to have 7 teeth pulled (4 one week, 3 the next) just so I could have braces put in. Talk about adding insult to injury.

I also got to pay several trips to the periodontist when I was younger to have swollen gums dealt with. You don't want to know what that involved.

These days I've got my electric toothbrush and Listerine which I use pretty faithfully. I'm less disciplined about flossing, but when I do I also use these rubber pick things which are pretty painless and a sort of brush for the gaps in my upper teeth. I have no idea how much of this is essential, but I use them when I'm drying off after a shower and have nothing better to do anyway.

I am very, very glad that I started going back to the dentist when I did.
 
I think that this is actually more common than people realize. I know my dentist pretty well after suffering depression, which does take its toll on your teeth since you pretty much don't care about anything at times, much less dental hygiene. Now, when I'm feeling normal/happy I am obsessive about dental hygiene. I actually clean them too much and give myself headaches/jaw aches from brushing too hard and too long. I spend about 20-40 minutes at a time brushing, flossing, scraping, rinsing, etc.... it's really probably doing more harm than good, but I'm sort of insane so I can't stop.

Anyway, I have been waiting in my dentist's office many a time, listening to other patients discuss appointments and such. I have heard many different people make several appointments to fix 5 -12 or so cavities. I'm never really shocked, because that has been me a couple of times, years ago. So yeah, basically, I think this is much more common than people realize.

Now I actually get compliments from the dentist and hygienist about how clean and white my teeth are when I go in... that is a nice change.
 
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