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You're still not making your case. The Lord of the Rings movies averaged about a billion $ box office each.
No,I mean the first trilogy, Peter Jackson filmed it all at once.
The main problem was Paramount waited 4 years from 2009 to 2013 to make a sequel.
They should have had a sequel by 2011, 2012 the latest.
I don't like the word but "normies" were talking about Star Trek, and a bunch of people got interested in more classic Trek after exposure to the 2009 movie.
Paramount squandered that.
Money is always a factor.
Kelvin Trilogy made more than any Trek in theaters that came before.
How would a "legendary" run be possible, when the content of the films did not reach the public in a manner where "legendary" would be applicable, and did much to divide the ST fanbase?
I'd say Trek 2009 united the fanbase and brought in new fans that Hollywood has been chasing for a decade now.
The fault for the failure of the Kelvin Universe falls squarely on Paramount.
 
Peter Jackson was able to film The Lord of the Rings at the same time because he was producing an adaption of a book, so he already had the source material in place. Let's also not forget that he was in pre-production on the trilogy for a good five years before cameras even rolled, years which included a studio change, and a switch from three films, to two, then back to three.

You simply cannot apply LotR to the production of original films that aren't written as serialized installments of one story.
 
It did bring in new fans, no question -- but "united the fanbase"?

Speaking as someone who was watching very closely the entire time, "united" is a thing it assuredly did not do.
Maybe not here in this website but I meant from what I saw back in the day.
Bunch of my family and friends who never had much interest in Trek wanted to go see 2009 and invited me every time cuz I was the 'Trekkie' they knew best.
And later on I introduced them to other Trek and since then they've become quite big fans themselves.
Even if some older Trek fans didn't like the "This isn't your daddy's Trek" tagline I saw how genuinely excited fans were, specially on TrekMovie.com, who all loved the movie.
There was no reason to believe it would so initial reluctance with the money is understandable.
I still maintain they could have made Trek into something close to the MCU had Paramount been smart with it.
 
I'd say Trek 2009 united the fanbase and brought in new fans that Hollywood has been chasing for a decade now.
There are a lot of old Star Trek fans who hate Kelvin Universe.

I still maintain they could have made Trek into something close to the MCU had Paramount been smart with it.
Although now that the Paramount Plus shows have evolved into an MCU style universe, the only thing missing are the 'theatrical' movies that would come out every other year or every year.
 
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There are a lot of old Star Trek fans who hate Kelvin Universe.
There are also a lot old Star Trek fans who like it a lot.

There are fans who hated the idea before release and ended up liking the result. There are fans who loved the idea before release and ended up hating the result. There are fans who were at least "wait and see" optimistic and ended up indifferent to the result.

No matter what criterion you use to draw the line, there are going to be lots of old fans on both sides of it. "United" simply isn't a word which works for this movie / this trilogy.
 
And I love how literally the second comment there, based on nothing but “new Star Trek movie”, is that it’ll be crap and the poster probably won’t bother.

I want people to start boasting about how whatever the franchise will be doing in twenty years’ time? It sucks, and they hope it bombs. (EDIT: Correction: They’ve already heard that it will bomb, and whomever will be making it has been fired.)
 
There are also a lot old Star Trek fans who like it a lot.

There are fans who hated the idea before release and ended up liking the result. There are fans who loved the idea before release and ended up hating the result. There are fans who were at least "wait and see" optimistic and ended up indifferent to the result.

No matter what criterion you use to draw the line, there are going to be lots of old fans on both sides of it. "United" simply isn't a word which works for this movie / this trilogy.
And also: instead of liking or hating the whole project, some people have different evaluations of each of the three films.
 

As with every movie announcement for the last ten years, I’ll believe it when I see production starting on it.

Some thoughts, though:

“Unrelated to all past Trek movies & shows”: Great news. It’s about time they dug themselves out of that ‘canon’ rut and actually reboot Trek, hopefully with something original and not just a fourth retread of Kirk and Spock.

Also, if the above is true, I’m wondering if that also means that the era of CBSAA/P+ Trek is finally done (at least after SFA ends/gets cancelled), in favor of a new reboot of movies & tv. Which would also mean, to my utter shock, that ‘proposed’ pitches such as Legacy, Year One, President Archer, the Tawny Show, etc. etc. are toast. ;)
 
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As with every movie announcement for the last ten years, I’ll believe it when I see production starting on it.

Some thoughts, though:

“Unrelated to all past Trek movies & shows”: Great news. It’s about time they dug themselves out of that ‘canon’ rut and actually reboot Trek, hopefully with something original and not just a fourth retread of Kirk and Spock.

Also, if the above is true, I’m wondering if that also means that the era of CBSAA/P+ Trek is finally done (at least after SFA ends/gets cancelled), in favor of a new reboot of movies & tv. Which would also mean, to my utter shock, that ‘proposed’ pitches such as Legacy, Year One, President Archer, the Tawny Show, etc. etc. are toast. ;)
No, they're probably thinking of a movie focusing on new characters from the Prime Universe, just like TNG had new characters when it came out.
 
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