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The thing is, the 20th anniversary of ST’09 is only a few years away. Releasing ST4 to coincide with the anniversary would have given it some of the momentum lost.
There was another issue beyond the salaries (which could have been rectified by given the cast executive producer roles to help cover/justify the salaries, as well as releasing it through P+, judging from the cost to make the Section 31 film), concerns about box office performance (which plays into salaries; if they were certain about success they would pay them whatever they are asking for), and marketing (after the pitiful effort for Beyond).
The pitched scripts for ST4 weren’t all that. Bringing George Kirk back via the transporter? Ship-wide pandemic?
The Tarantino’s script was probably the best one, but was polarizing for the fanbase.
That’s why I wonder why they didn’t mash a bunch of ideas together to cobble up a great script, like was done with TWoK.
They should have taken Tarantino’s script, found someone else to direct it, like what happened with Once Upon A Time in Hollywood, and keep it R-rated.
Next, it would have made infinitely more sense to have George Kirk captaining another Kelvin-like ship, the USS Iowa, in the Prime Timeline and thrown back in time to meet the time-displaced Kelvin crew. Could even fit in an Robau cameo, with him having become an admiral.
Keep it set in the 1930s or 1940s to retain the mob element, but also so the Kelvin crew and George Kirk’s crew can kill some Nazis. Can still have Klingons and Romulans and Gorn and salt vampire running around to maintain the sci-fi element, but it would have been a more affordable movie
For the pandemic element, one of the antagonist spills something on one of the starships and the redshirts are quarantined. Maybe one of those quarantined could have been the cadet offspring of Chekov and Irina Galliulin; then the movie can have a Chekov without recasting Chekov. Another could be Sulu’s cadet daughter.
Even a Discovery reference, hint to there being a Federation-Klingon war in the Kelvin timeline that was started by a trigger-happy science officer, and Section 31/Control has confiscated Scotty’s transwarp beaming to assist with the war effort. Or have an angry, bearded Spock.
Then cast Bryan Cranston as the antagonist, as he was rumored to be for one of the scripts, since he always brings the material up a level.
Then they'd have a good talky film, that could have been made over a 2-3 year period, that would probably be Oscar-bait beyond special effects. And might have been affordable due to a lack of CGI effects.
But it doesn't matter now. Paramount seems to have made up their minds.
Holy crap, I forgot we nearly got a Tarantino-adjacent movie alongside the Chris Hemsworth one.
I heard it was meant to be Picard, Shatner-Kirk and Pine-Kirk doing Pulp Fiction intertwining stories on Sigma Iota II. No idea if that's true, but it would have been utterly bonkers, rated R and scared up a ton of publicity for Trek.
One day, many details of these things will appear online. How long do NDA's in Hollywood last for? A decade? More?
I heard it was meant to be Picard, Shatner-Kirk and Pine-Kirk doing Pulp Fiction intertwining stories on Sigma Iota II. No idea if that's true, but it would have been utterly bonkers, rated R and scared up a ton of publicity for Trek.
One day, many details of these things will appear online. How long do NDA's in Hollywood last for? A decade? More?
It's ok for kids to kill aliens, Nazis and boy bands because their bad.*
*2 million Internet points if anyone catches the reference.
*2 million Internet points if anyone catches the reference.
It'd be their STIV, then, only in the sense that the story would be our fish out of water crew members having to adapt to a culture foreign and historical to them (in the sense that the Iotians act like they're from Earth's past, despite not being so - unlike 1986 Earth from STIV, which was their past and our present at the time it released).
I wonder what a Kelvinverse back in time to 2020s Earth film would be like...
It was either that or the Thousand Year Boy Band Reich, and nobody wants that.
Peter Jackson made the trilogy happen all at once.
My point is if Paramount wasn't completely scattered in their focus they could have had a legendary run with the Kelvin timeline.
don't say things like that
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Tarantino definitely directed Once Upon a Time... In Hollywood. And it's brilliant. Maybe I don't get what you're trying to say here.
You're still not making your case. The Lord of the Rings movies averaged about a billion $ box office each.
Well, yeah, we all know this. And the reason why they didn't was because Paramount had its head up its ass for the last ten years, and made fake announcements of new Trek films in order to please their investors, but had no intention of actually producing those films.
Money is always a factor.
yah and its most likely that on alternate earths there are more star trek kelvin movies than just 3 movies
If you say so.
My favourite announcement was the one where the actors themselves all said the day afterwards they had no idea and some had other acting commitments and could not possibly have appeared.
Picard was in it too? Where did that info come from?
Trusted Sources(TM)
I think it was some random article from a dubious website, way back when.
How would a "legendary" run be possible, when the content of the films did not reach the public in a manner where "legendary" would be applicable, and did much to divide the ST fanbase?
Every single Star Trek divides the fanbase. Going back to TAS, TMP, TNG, DS9...
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