Nothing as exciting as an announcement of a Blu-ray release of DS9, but they briefly talk about the possibility:
http://tng.trekcore.com/bluray/okuda3.html
http://tng.trekcore.com/bluray/okuda3.html
The Okudas talk DS9-R
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To be honest, I can't really say I see much of a need. I mean...I don't really recall that manny SFX--even in the early seasons--that need re-vamping. By the time of DS9, such tech had sufficiently advanced so that everything looked realistic.
Umm HD isn't just for special effects....
I'd absolutely love to see the Promenade and Ops in HD.
It's good news that they're even talking about it. TNG seemed kind of an iffy prospect as recently as two or three years ago, and they got it done. Below they illustrate a potential problem. In fact, they actually cite the special effects specifically.
TrekCore: I have to throw in a quick cheeky question. In the sixth season, in the episode ‘Birthright’, we’re finally going to be able to see Deep Space Nine in high-definition. But, is there any chance we could see the whole show in high-definition at some point??
Denise: God, would we love that??
Mike: Now THAT would be great!
Denise: That would be fantastic. You know, you never say never and you never know…
Mike: It’s so far in the future…
Denise: In the future, but wouldn’t that be fun?
TrekCore: Do you think from a technical standpoint it’s more demanding to do a show like [Star Trek] Deep Space Nine which was created with a lot more CGI because it’s not made [natively] in HD?
Mike: Well, the heavy use of CG really didn’t come in until later in the series. But yes, it would be a greater technical challenge because the visual effects were more complex. There are more of them. But, on the other hand a lot of the early elements were shot on film. They should hold up well.
TrekCore: I have to throw in a quick cheeky question. In the sixth season, in the episode ‘Birthright’, we’re finally going to be able to see Deep Space Nine in high-definition. But, is there any chance we could see the whole show in high-definition at some point??
Denise: God, would we love that??
Mike: Now THAT would be great!
Denise: That would be fantastic. You know, you never say never and you never know…
Mike: It’s so far in the future…
Denise: In the future, but wouldn’t that be fun?
TrekCore: Do you think from a technical standpoint it’s more demanding to do a show like [Star Trek] Deep Space Nine which was created with a lot more CGI because it’s not made [natively] in HD?
Mike: Well, the heavy use of CG really didn’t come in until later in the series. But yes, it would be a greater technical challenge because the visual effects were more complex. There are more of them. But, on the other hand a lot of the early elements were shot on film. They should hold up well.
Hmm...on that note, I see the need, now!
I wonder...will the audio be more "detailed', too? Or would it just be the visual?
They've been doing 7.1 surround sound mixes for the audio, so it'll be great if you have a home theater set up.
Hmm...on that note, I see the need, now!
I wonder...will the audio be more "detailed', too? Or would it just be the visual?
It would be cool if they could find the original footage of Wolf 359 and incorporate it into the "Emissary" scenes.
Fascinating!
So, that means...will we finally be able to hear the Quark's Bar conversations?
The one I'm particuarly interested in--I actually started a thread about it--was Bashir and Ezri's conversation in "Emperor's New Cloak". One can hear it faintly...but it's drowned out by Quark's whining to Odo.
Maybe, if you can isolate the audio channels carrying those conversations. If it's in the center channel, forget about it.
Fascinating!
So, that means...will we finally be able to hear the Quark's Bar conversations?
The one I'm particuarly interested in--I actually started a thread about it--was Bashir and Ezri's conversation in "Emperor's New Cloak". One can hear it faintly...but it's drowned out by Quark's whining to Odo.
Agreed. If this trend continues, they'll want to spent next week remastering stuff that won't be made for five years.
I'm all for the OCCASSIONAL "improvements" here and there, but I hear this more and more, and it's starting to get old.
Little things like not having the one BoP destroying another in Sacrifice of Angels?
They aren't at least at this point talking about redoing fx shots, its about using the filmed elements (both live action and the various fx model photography that was all shot on film, and putting it out at a level of quality that the material was capable of.
At this point everything that's been released was released off of video masters, where you lose a huge, huge amount of quality. From loss of fine detail to a dramatic lose in color.
If you look at the TNG thread you will see a major thread over its remastering (and 99% of it is all original material just now edited on film, not video) and you will see the dramatic, dramatic increase in quality. For all types of footage.
The only aspect that DS9 would have thats different is the recreation (of the wormhole FX and Odo's morphs for the first 5 seasons. Its really not until the 6th (and even then its not all episodes as some still use motion control models after that) where you would have to worry about how the studio would recreate the large scale move to CGI, as the render quality of those shots are not up to the level needed for the HD, and I don't believe the studio has archives of the raw digital files.
But the idea of the first 5 seasons redone with the same care as TNG so far, with the same techniques is terrible exciting.
As of now it sucks watching DS9 on anything but my smallest tv (or TNG, VOY, ect) the video masters are simply awful in how much the drop the quality.
According to this report from Comic Con, DS9 on Blu-ray is on CBS' "radar", but DS9 fans need to show their support:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106145/board/thread/201911169
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106145/board/thread/201911169
Heck yeah, I'm gettin' loud.
As far as the head of CBS Home Video division the sales figures of # of units sold of TNG on Blu-ray first 2 or 3 seasons are a big factor. One season would not give them enough of a metric. At least 2 seasons would show fan commitment to purchasing the series (triple-dipping...)
Letters sent directly to him may help our cause as well. [I'm a VOY fan and would like VOY in Blu-ray so that is dependent on DS9.]
Letters sent directly to him may help our cause as well. [I'm a VOY fan and would like VOY in Blu-ray so that is dependent on DS9.]
Fascinating!
So, that means...will we finally be able to hear the Quark's Bar conversations?
The one I'm particuarly interested in--I actually started a thread about it--was Bashir and Ezri's conversation in "Emperor's New Cloak". One can hear it faintly...but it's drowned out by Quark's whining to Odo.
I think most conversations of the extras in the bar were just "walla walla" conversations, nothing of real subsistence.
Fascinating!
So, that means...will we finally be able to hear the Quark's Bar conversations?
The one I'm particuarly interested in--I actually started a thread about it--was Bashir and Ezri's conversation in "Emperor's New Cloak". One can hear it faintly...but it's drowned out by Quark's whining to Odo.
I think most conversations of the extras in the bar were just "walla walla" conversations, nothing of real subsistence.
Getting to finally hear Morn's dialogue!
For DS9 as a whole, or at least the later CGI shows, the obvious choice would be to hire Gary Hutzel's team from BSG In-House Effects, since approximately one out of every two episodes from those seasons was supervised by...well, Gary Hutzel. Even if he decides to change some aspects, the overall style would be consistent with the original and the shots would be better across the board, not like TOS-R.
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