The OFFICIAL STNG-R general discussion thread!

[Maxwell Everett]

I took an image from the ENERGIZED! doc and overlayed it on top of the corresponding frame from "The Naked Now" to show more directly (they used a side-by-side and zoom in the doc) what kind of 16:9 transfer the folks at CBS were considering. As you can see, we're not missing that much more usable image... and we would've lost quite a bit:

I'm guessing this area corresponds to the maximum safe area they could extract across all the footage (some of it would have more usable area, most probably not). As Robert Meyer Burnett indicated a few weeks ago, the ENERGIZED! doc is really the last word on the 16:9/4:3 debate. I strongly encourage everyone here to purchase this wonderful set and watch it for yourself! Best Blu-ray purchase I've made in quite a while.

 

[BillJ]

I would've liked a 16:9 option, but the lack of one isn't going to keep me from buying the set.

 

[Sho]

Actually, could you post the full res frame too? That's an amazing picture of Data!

 

[Maxwell Everett]

Actually, could you post the full res frame too? That's an amazing picture of Data!

Spoiler: Smirking Data in 16x9

 

[Tosk]

Looks like they took notice of the credit fonts and realized they could do better.

Just to make sure did they update the credits in Encounter at Farpoint too?

Nope, Farpoint remains exactly the same as the sampler.

Which really worries me. Hopefully they update Sins and Inner Light when they get to those seasons. I'd hate to be saddled with sloppy errors just because they couldn't be bothered revisiting two episodes.

 

[RAMA]

What are the legal options (in the US) for seeing TNG:R without paying $60/season for the discs?

I have seen no indication that Netflix will have it, either on streaming or on disc, nor that it is scheduled for TV broadcast.

Who cares? $60 is super cheap..that's just over $2 per episode...back in the 80s we had to pay $14.99 for 2 low res episodes per VHS tape...how spoiled we are now.

RAMA

 

[RAMA]

Stunning

"We'll Always Have Paris"
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/136570

Hmm, this is another one where I think the original has some elements that are a bit stronger, in particular I like the blue edge highlights on Data that are gone in the new composite.

Love how those sparks look in HD though!

No the new one is definitely better, they tended to be too bright with the glow fx in early STNG. Now we can actually see Data.

 

[Dukhat]

Darn. I guess we'll just have to accept that Starfleet built some massive, SUPER-sized versions of the old nacelles and saucer for that ship.

Or we could just say that the perspective is off, and the Stargazer is actually much closer to the camera than the Enterprise-D is.

I have a screencap request...can we see the computer screens Data was looking at from "Conspiracy?" You know, the ones where we see The Great Bird of the Galaxy (Gene's head on a parrot's body) and other interesting-looking goodies?

 

[davejames]

Spoiler: Smirking Data in 16x9

Looking at that, 16:9 looks pretty damn awesome to me. Although I definitely understand the need to preserve the original version as well.

Is there any mention in the Energized doc about widescreen syndicated airings btw? I know that idea was brought up a few times early on.

 

[Sho]

Actually, could you post the full res frame too? That's an amazing picture of Data!

Spoiler: Smirking Data in 16x9

Thanks!

Anybody up for screencaping the glimpse of Geordi's vision we get in Heart of Glory?

 

[Maxwell Everett]

^ Just watched that episode and the Geordi Vision looked to me like a straight up-convert from 1-inch tape (don't quote me on that, though). It just didn't seem to have the sharpness you'd expect from a completely re-done effect.

It's also possible that it was originally shot with a videocamera anyway.... not sure though. There is no mention of it in the special features.

They did however locate the original elements for this shot:

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/s1/1x20/heartofglory218.jpg

And it looks much better than the replacement used in "Farpoint." I also believe I saw that they found the original Enterprise elements used for the opening shot of "Sins of the Father." I have to remember which episode I saw it on, though. Let me get back to you on that.

EDIT:

I remember now... it was "Lonely Among Us"... this shot here:

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/s1/1x08/lonelyamong140.jpg

Which was the same element used here, just flopped, wider and static (no zoom):

http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/s3/3x17/sinsofthefather000.jpg

 

[Timo47]

But even though they found those elements, they did not update Farpoint with it? These 2 shots were both used in the pilot.

 

[crotig]

Season 2 trailer available again on youtube.

Sorry, but I had to remove the link, CBS is squawking about it.

(Geez, my first act as TNG mod is to spoil someone's effort.)

 

[BillJ]

"We'll Always Have Paris"
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/136570

Hmm, this is another one where I think the original has some elements that are a bit stronger, in particular I like the blue edge highlights on Data that are gone in the new composite.

Love how those sparks look in HD though!

No the new one is definitely better, they tended to be too bright with the glow fx in early STNG. Now we can actually see Data.

Don't mind RAMA, to him new automatically equates as better. He will just keep parroting his stance from the TOS-R discussions he's taken part of over the years.

 

[crotig]

Season 2 trailer available again on youtube.

Sorry, but I had to remove the link, CBS is squawking about it.

(Geez, my first act as TNG mod is to spoil someone's effort.)

LOL. No problem. It's still on youtube if anyone wants to see it. Looks good.

 

[FrontierTrek]

Screencaps for the first season are well underway, so I probably won't get round to filling requests for a while.

As a special teaser, we'll be featuring special previews of the upcoming screencaps on our Facebook channel. Right now there's a selection of preview caps from 'The Last Outpost' on there.

http://www.facebook.com/trekcore

Don't forget to "like" us, so you get all the updates straight away

 

[mswood]

Just a note

Lonely Among Us, the cloud does in fact go in from of the ship, clear while watching the episode, if that hadn't been answered yet.

And, I am not watching in order, can't bare yet to watch a few, but let me just say what a beautiful joy it was to view 11001001 (probably my favorite episode of the season (or close to it).

 

[MacLeod]

They could possible have used a compromise format of 14:9

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14:9

 

[BillJ]

They could possible have used a compromise format of 14:9

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14:9

The ship has sailed, at least for this generation.

 

[Tosk]

They could possible have used a compromise format of 14:9

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14:9

They didn't though, so moving on...