The OFFICIAL STNG-R general discussion thread!

[Trekker4747]

Why did the show look so awesome on my TV in the 80s, and it looks so crappy now?

Your TV in the 80s was made out of a giant hunk of glass with a device in the back of it firing laser beams in an attempted logical fashion to produce something resembling a visible image.

The TV you have today is, most likely, a structure of 1000s of tiny boxes each one making one, specific, color and all work together to produce a specific image.

It's the difference between at something through a blurry, dirty, window and looking directly at the object.

Simple answer: TV in the 80s sucked, TVs today don't suck as much. That's difference between analog and digital, in analog the picture gets sort of washed out by the image trying to be produced along with everything else in it. Digital is trying to make something specific.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

My TV's in the 1980's were more about cathode rays than lasers, but yeah...

 

[ATimson]

IIRC I don't think The Inner light has any exterior FX at all, I think all the money was thrown at the alien village set and all of the shots of the probe were from the viewscreen.
It might even explode at one point IIRC, but again that is shown from the viewscreen.

Because it's so much cheaper to matte the VFX into the bluescreen then to show them straight-up.

 

[Dick_Valentine]

Also that might be the reason those two eps were chosen in the first place.

While being "fan favourites" they required little work, FX wise, allowing all the time budget and energy to be spent on Farpoint, making a better first impression on any samplers undecided if they'll get the whole set.

Or it could've been a lucky dip, who knows!

 

[SoM]

Probably both - they wanted a couple of well-regarded episodes that didn't involve a huge amount of FX work, and "Sins of the Father" and "The Inner Light" ticked both boxes.

 

[Trekker4747]

My TV's in the 1980's were more about cathode rays than lasers, but yeah...

Well, I over spoke. But cathode-ray tubes shoot focused beams of light at the screen in varying mixes of Red, Blue and Green to produce any color in the spectrum. While the beams may not be actual lasers, they're still mostly focused beams of light.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

...or themselves electron beams....

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

The onscreen text, is that what the episode itself will have? I'm guessing all such text (such as credits and episode titles) will need to be replaced, is that right?

 

[NewHorizon]

Probably both - they wanted a couple of well-regarded episodes that didn't involve a huge amount of FX work, and "Sins of the Father" and "The Inner Light" ticked both boxes.

Farpoint also gets a lot of the restoration work on a huge number of stock ship shots. The layers for those shots will all be digitized now, should speed up the work for later episodes.

 

[ATimson]

Well, I over spoke. But cathode-ray tubes shoot focused beams of light at the screen in varying mixes of Red, Blue and Green to produce any color in the spectrum. While the beams may not be actual lasers, they're still mostly focused beams of light.

Nope. Cathode ray tubes consist of an electron gun which shoots electrons, not light. The electrons hit red, blue, and green phosphors on the tube surface, and excites them (makes them glow) in order to form the picture.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

Yeah, laser TVs were becoming outmoded at the end of the 19th century although they were a lot less heavy than the old steam-powered ones, which were once seen as a great step forward over the waterwheel-powered TVs. Or so Miss Haversham told me...

 

[Kemaiku]

Testing new avatar.

 

[TheSeeker]

^I like it!

 

[Squiggy]

The onscreen text, is that what the episode itself will have? I'm guessing all such text (such as credita and episode titles) will need to be replaced, is that right?

Doubt it. The TNG font is about as iconic as the episode itself.

 

[NewHorizon]

The onscreen text, is that what the episode itself will have? I'm guessing all such text (such as credita and episode titles) will need to be replaced, is that right?

Doubt it. The TNG font is about as iconic as the episode itself.

I think they meant replaced as in 'recomposited'...which I'm sure it would have to be.

 

[Squiggy]

Oh yeah. I'm sure it would be. It was thrown in like every other effect and was not in high definition.

 

[22 Stars]

Yes, of course the credits will need to be redone in HD. I am really looking forward to seeing this project! I was just talking to someone who worked on TNG and she was 'sad' they didn't call her to work on this. She was just kidding, but I told her to give THEM a call!

 

[RAMA]

Yeah, laser TVs were becoming outmoded at the end of the 19th century although they were a lot less heavy than the old steam-powered ones, which were once seen as a great step forward over the waterwheel-powered TVs. Or so Miss Haversham told me...

I understood what he meant, tv technology was considered backwards by many...it stayed much the same for a long time, with few improvements till the late 90s, even bigger changes in the 21st century.

RAMA

 

[RAMA]

The onscreen text, is that what the episode itself will have? I'm guessing all such text (such as credita and episode titles) will need to be replaced, is that right?

Doubt it. The TNG font is about as iconic as the episode itself.

True, but I like the metallic flying logo!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV7J8Re0QHc&feature=related&hd=1

RAMA

 

[Captrek]

Yeah, laser TVs were becoming outmoded at the end of the 19th century although they were a lot less heavy than the old steam-powered ones, which were once seen as a great step forward over the waterwheel-powered TVs. Or so Miss Haversham told me...

I understood what he meant, tv technology was considered backwards by many...it stayed much the same for a long time, with few improvements till the late 90s, even bigger changes in the 21st century.

RAMA

Early televisions may have been primitive technologically, but the shows were the best, like Perry Masonry and Alvin Brickrock Presents.