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The nuEnterprise is a fungus...

malchya

Lieutenant Commander
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She grows on you. I hated her at first. I found her aesthetically reprehensible. She was a bastard offspring of my beloved old Big -E and some Starship Trooper watching dweeb's idea of a space ship. Ech.

But I caught a glimpse of her on a youtube video and she actually made my heart-rate accelerate. I watched as the cadet shuttle approached her and found a lump in my throat. She was...lovely. Just lovely.

There are still things that could improve her. Forget the ridiculous "supersizing." I really wish the connecting dorsal and warp pylons would move forward just a tad; the dorsal for aesthetic reasons and the pylons for structural. And I kind of wish the pylons weren't so radically curved.

But she was lovely, you know.

(Then the video flashed to the engine room. That hideous brewery! Almost made me hate her again. But only almost.)
 
She grows on you. I hated her at first. I found her aesthetically reprehensible. She was a bastard offspring of my beloved old Big -E and some Starship Trooper watching dweeb's idea of a space ship. Ech.

But I caught a glimpse of her on a youtube video and she actually made my heart-rate accelerate. I watched as the cadet shuttle approached her and found a lump in my throat. She was...lovely. Just lovely.

There are still things that could improve her. Forget the ridiculous "supersizing." I really wish the connecting dorsal and warp pylons would move forward just a tad; the dorsal for aesthetic reasons and the pylons for structural. And I kind of wish the pylons weren't so radically curved.

But she was lovely, you know.

(Then the video flashed to the engine room. That hideous brewery! Almost made me hate her again. But only almost.)


From a non - techie viewer, I thought the nuEnterprise was beautiful from the start.
But the engine room was dumb. The scale was nice, but the 20th century elements were stupid.
 
I absolutely loved the new movie...but I have to say I was not impressed by the new Enterprise. To me it looks vastly out of proportion, and that the parts don't quite go together in a fluid way, almost as if one person was in charge of designing the engines, another person was in charge of the secondary hull, and yet another in charge of the saucer, and then everything was just slapped together (although I know this was not the case). The saucer is clearly based on the TMP Enterprise saucer, which IMHO doesn't go with the rest of the ship's [re]design. Perhaps I'm just biased because I haven't liked any Enterprise designs since the wonderful, can't-be-topped Enterprise-D.

However, I could have cared less about the use of the brewery for engineering, and to this day am at a complete loss as to why people bitch about it so much. I think people just complain about it for the sake of complaining. AFAIC, it was a cost-saving measure that the general audience wouldn't have noticed or cared about.
 
I, for one, don't complain about the brewery simply to "have something to complain about." As I've stated in other threads, I've actually worked in a brewery and just could not buy it at all as part of a star ship propulsion plant. It looked exactly like what it really was; a brewery!
 
I'll agree with the OP that the nuE grows on you. But yes, the brewery looked like a brewery throughout, and ironically even more so when they tried to disguise it in the Uhura numb-tongue scene. That just looked rediculous.
 
It is not my wish to "have something to complain about" either, as I have watched and enjoyed all the series and all the movies (admittedly some more than others) and I am therefore obviously willing to accept an awful lot of things that other fans complain about and banish from their "personal canon". I even could accept and appreciate the nuEnterprise right off the bat and, like the OP, have grown to like it even more with time.

But that engine room is a stinker for me. Shook me right back into 20th Century reality (I expected Dirty Harry to start shooting at a corrupt cop from behind one of the beer vats...). It looks like what it is and is the Trek film equivalent of putting lipstick on a pig and asking us to believe that it is something that it is not.

Too big for the secondary hull, too much empty/wasted overhead space, too decentralized, and machinery too sprawling & primitive-looking (to me) for the time. There is no unifying design to engineering that pulls things together and creates a flow that implies power flow like we have seen in Star Fleet vessels in earlier shows/movies- which I liked. (I am talking engineering here, not the water reclamation(?) area)

However, I hope for Trek XII that they DO keep/incorporate a more convincing large & open area of machinery into an Trek XII engineering section that ALSO has a more centralized, clean-lined futuristic control room/area.
 
I'll agree the NuEnterprise is a grower.

But nothing will ever, ever come close to the TMP Enterprise Refit. Simply perfect. I totally believed she was real.

Scotty and Kirks flyby is the the closest you are ever going to get to Starship Porn. ;)
 
I'll agree the NuEnterprise is a grower.

But nothing will ever, ever come close to the TMP Enterprise Refit. Simply perfect. I totally believed she was real.

Scotty and Kirks flyby is the the closest you are ever going to get to Starship Porn. ;)

Odd...whenever my kids catch me looking at starships or watching youtube animations of them they say "Dad's lookin' at porn again."

And I agree with you. TMP is the ultimate version of the Enterprise. But, just for looks, I think that 1701-B almost gives her a run for her money!
 
She grows on you. I hated her at first. I found her aesthetically reprehensible. She was a bastard offspring of my beloved old Big -E and some Starship Trooper watching dweeb's idea of a space ship. Ech.

But I caught a glimpse of her on a youtube video and she actually made my heart-rate accelerate. I watched as the cadet shuttle approached her and found a lump in my throat. She was...lovely. Just lovely.

There are still things that could improve her. Forget the ridiculous "supersizing." I really wish the connecting dorsal and warp pylons would move forward just a tad; the dorsal for aesthetic reasons and the pylons for structural. And I kind of wish the pylons weren't so radically curved.

But she was lovely, you know.

(Then the video flashed to the engine room. That hideous brewery! Almost made me hate her again. But only almost.)

I hated the ship.
Loved every single character.
 
Well. The original poster and I both agree that the nuEnterprise is fungal, in one way or another. But our interpretations are radically different.
I would pay good money for a topical cream that would dissolve that Abomination and take its Dilithium Lite brewery with it. yes I would.
 
It is like a fungus, and it can be fun to peel layers of dead skin from between your toes when you have athlete's foot, but those are just two examples of fungi with few other redeeming characteristics.

Of course, I say that, but I really loved the ship rising out of the mists of Titan scene.

Straighten the nacelle pylons, push the dorsal and saucer forward a bit on the secondary hull, and make the features fit the scale of the thing better.
 
I had mixed feelings when the photo of it was released but I did come to love it and it is my favorite design now. A model of it is sitting on my desk as i type.
 
I'm so used to the new ship that the original Enterprise is starting to look weird and misshapen to me.
 
And I agree with you. TMP is the ultimate version of the Enterprise. But, just for looks, I think that 1701-B almost gives her a run for her money!
I openly despised the Enterprise C when I first saw her, but the design has grown on me.

TPTB made some changes to the Enterprise E inbetween movies, there is hope for the most resent incarnation yet.

:)
 
I didn't care for the bridge too much. Way too many lights. I bet 80% of the Enterprise's total power consumption is used for the vanity lights on the bridge.
 
There wasn't one Enterprise I didn't like until the NX-01 showed up and it never grew on me...and the Abramsprise I found ugly on sight...I can't decide which is worse.

But they're two different types of Ugly...NX was ugly because of it's whale like look with the big mouth at the front and the red eyes for the nacelles or just the overall design really.

The Abramsprise isn't that ind of ugly. It actually has attractive features ...if exaggerated. His choices were pretty good in design it's just the arrangement and overly big engines... I guess in my opinion it simply looks like a cartoon....
 
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