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The Nitpickers thread - where complaints go to Gre'thor

My wife is Hispanic, she has a Hispanic last name. Spanish is her native language, English her second. She has zero spanish accent, its actually a slight New York accent if she is tickef off
Some people just do not comprehend that many people achieve native level accent in their second (or third, or fourth) language. Have you seen the endless whining about why Picard doesn't have French accent?
 
* The Vulcan Neck Pinch disabling Georgiou for like a minute. This one I say is nitpicking because Michael is about a third as strong as a Vulcan so even I know I'm reaching.

* The fact we don't know any of the bridge crew yet.

* The Spore Engineer's constant whining about Starfleet taking his stuff.

* Poor Landry getting killed in the 4th episode. I liked her and Lorca's chemistry. So did a bunch of other people.

* The lack of mention of the bomb on a corpse bit in an episode which cites the Geneva Convention.

* Again, I know it's an easy fix but it's weird the way Klingons went from "race which has NO respect for corpses" to race which has a LOT of respect for corpses as well as a tomb ship. It's one of the major facts we know about them, a bit like showing overly emotional Vulcans.

* Shouldn't Tilly be an ensign or acting ensign on the Discovery? I mean, WESLEY technically outranks her.

* Isn't being stabbed in the back a dishonorable way to die for a Klingon warrior? Kind of an odd way to martyr someone.

* Do Klingons not have replicators? Food synthesizers? This isn't even a nitpick so much as a confusion point.

* Wouldn't Captain Georgiou's body be pretty ripe if they'd degenerated to desperation cannibalism?
 
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My point is that people keep wanting Lorca to have an English accent because the actor is English, as if English and American are the only options.

When the character was first announced, I was actually hoping he would be depicted as culturally Spaniard, as that's not something that I can recall seeing in Star Trek before.

Kor

Names drift. There are many people with nameslike that , but not raised in such a culture and so do not speak the lang. I agree, a non American/ English human would be nice. We got a little of that with The Shenzhous Captain.

Some people just do not comprehend that many people achieve native level accent in their second (or third, or fourth) language. Have you seen the endless whining about why Picard doesn't have French accent?

To be fair, the issue with Picard was he was shown to be both super french and so English it hurt. I ado agree people do not understand folks can speak a lang and not have an accent.
 
Hell, one of the most common sci-fi tropes that many authors follow for stories set in the "future" is having mash-ups of names, cultures, and races to undermine my own point.

My own books have a redheaded woman from a Japanese culture alongside a stereotypically Scottish African woman.

It's a HUGE part of the Expanse's casual background.
 
Some people just do not comprehend that many people achieve native level accent in their second (or third, or fourth) language. Have you seen the endless whining about why Picard doesn't have French accent?

Even within countries - my mothers family is from Newcastle, my fathers from Essex. I've lived in Manchester for about 16 years, and I go to either family and I carry a pretty strong Lancashire accent now which is a stark contrast from both sides of the family. I had a Spanish housemate who started acquiring a Lancashire accent after a year of interacting with myself and his colleagues in Manchester - and would swing between Spanish and Lancastrian within the same sentence.

Names drift. There are many people with nameslike that , but not raised in such a culture and so do not speak the lang. I agree, a non American/ English human would be nice. We got a little of that with The Shenzhous Captain.

She got her surname from her ex-husband according to the novel.
 
Some people just do not comprehend that many people achieve native level accent in their second (or third, or fourth) language. Have you seen the endless whining about why Picard doesn't have French accent?

Coming from an immigrant community myself, I can attest that plenty of people don't ever lose their accent in a second language, and there are many who never achieve anything beyond a very basic proficiency in the second language despite many years spent living in a country where that language is the primary language.

And Frenchman Picard's English accent when he speaks English would be just fine... if he didn't also speak French with an English accent! :lol:

Kor
 
And Frenchman Picard's English accent when he speaks English would be just fine... if he didn't also speak French with an English accent! :lol:

Kor

Ya know a line about an English mother or spending his childhood or something on an English colony or something could have fixed that with ease.
 
Ya know a line about an English mother or spending his childhood or something on an English colony or something could have fixed that with ease.

My headcanon is Picard's grandfather was an incredibly English Luddite who bought a vineyard and raised the crustiest son imaginable while ignoring the second.

:)
 
So it's utterly unlike all other Star Trek technology?
Well, I was going to list all the technologies that are consistent with the known laws of physics, but even the doors operate with more squeak 'n' whoosh than can be reasonably be accounted for.
 
A better question is why did they take an old telescope but leave that dilithium processor or whatever it is?

Doing a transporter sweep for personal effects seems faster and easier than salvaging a part which has a notable chance of detonating the reactor while being disconnected. Also, for all we know, a dilithium processor is a nothing part (unless you don't have one) that wasn't worth the expense separate from the ship. There's a question of why whoever scoured the ship and rescued the crew didn't scuttle the hulk of the ship, but it could be they hoped to salvage it at some point. Depending on how bad off the Sarcophagus ship was (and it sounds like "very"), Starfleet might've figured all the Klingons were dead or gone, too. After all, it certainly wouldn't make sense from a Starfleet perspective for the Klingons just to abandon a repairable dreadnought with a full crew on board rather than towing it in for repairs.
 
Because there's only one family heirloom ancient telescope, but there are dozens of spare dilithium processors available at any reputable starbase.
Right, so they leave a perfectly good dilithium processor within spitting distance of a Klingon ship which for some reason they also don't bother with. Wow, Starfleet sure is accommodating, leave the dilithium processor for the enemy to use and repair their ships. This one week after a perfectly good state of the art "science" ship was destroyed for security purposes.

Oh, but that's right, Starfleet isn't a military, so of course it's okay for them to make stupid decisions.
The fact we don't know any of the bridge crew yet.
We know the bridge crew about as well as we knew the bridge crews of the other Treks. The difference is this bridge crew aren't in the main cast, meaning it's okay we don't know them that well.
Shouldn't Tilly be an ensign or acting ensign on the Discovery? I mean, WESLEY technically outranks her.
Why should she be an Acting Ensign? Nog wasn't an Acting Ensign when he first returned to DS9 during the fifth season and early sixth. Indeed, a term of starship service is a requirement for all cadets, but they don't become acting ensigns during the time.
Wouldn't Captain Georgiou's body be pretty ripe if they'd degenerated to desperation cannibalism?
Klingons eating Captain Georgiou isn't cannibalism. Cannibals eat their own kind. Captain Georgiou is human, a Klingon eating her is not cannibalism.
But I hear that before Discovery's spore drive, the science in Star Trek was entirely airtight.
Fucking right.
 
Spore drive 200 years before Voyager. WHY does this Star Trek 10 years before STOS need to be using such advanced tech that nobody uses nor is aware of 200 years later in the Star trek universe.
I am hoping that universal translators are invented soon so that I don't need to read every time a Klingons have dialog.
 
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