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The New USS Discovery....

It's a terrible design from the word "Go."

Yes, it's only one theory. But it's the most plausible one yet. The only other one we've heard here - that they want to have a full reveal for the fans later - makes much less sense, considering they already showed us many previous iterations and what is supposed to be the current one.
They've showed us one CGI shot that was not final. It was a teaser, which means they have something they want to reveal, regardless of what has come before.

Also, I don't see it as the most plausible. Just one theory among many, that we lack full information to make a complete conclusion on.
 
As long as it still is identifiably the McQuarrie ship, I'm happy. All Trek designs are silly - it's merely a lemma of all scifi designs being silly, which flows directly from the greater truth of all designs being silly. But at least the McQuarrie ship is Star Trek. This is supposed to be a spinoff, and it would be embarrassing to fail there when they could just as easily have done an all-new show (and avoided all the "It's derivative!" lawsuits because they own the very thing they are plagiarizing).

Timo Saloniemi
 
That's why we already have 4(!) different official versions

We've only seen 2 versions of the discovery. The Teaser last year, and the final one we have now.

The pictures in the production video were renders of the first version.
 
I think the Discovery design they've shown is great (both the teaser version and the current version), and unless it somehow drastically changes its the one part of the show I can see myself really liking. Then again I always like the propsed ST Phase II design, so it makes sense I'd like this. I think its easily going to be one of my favorite trek ships (which is not an easy thing to accomplish because I love the majority of Federation ship designs and a lot of the other ship designs as well), at least from an exterior design perspective.
 
As long as it still is identifiably the McQuarrie ship, I'm happy. All Trek designs are silly - it's merely a lemma of all scifi designs being silly, which flows directly from the greater truth of all designs being silly. But at least the McQuarrie ship is Star Trek. This is supposed to be a spinoff, and it would be embarrassing to fail there when they could just as easily have done an all-new show (and avoided all the "It's derivative!" lawsuits because they own the very thing they are plagiarizing).

Timo Saloniemi

Now, the McQuarrie design as the Enterprise, not so much. There's still debate whether the refit is an all new ship or not.

As a design, I always liked it. The original had a certain 70's vibe to it, the way the TOS Enterprise had a 60's vibe, but either one, updated properly, would make for a good looking ship on a modern day show.
 
I never much liked the McQuarrie design from the first time I saw it many years ago. But I think they've changed and tweaked it enough to make it appealing, and I can accept it as I have seen it it in the posters. The only part I would like to see tweaked further is the squared-off, right-angle bottom of the secondary hull. I'd like to see some rounding and softening of the angles there to make it less boxy (my opinion). However, even if this is the final version I think I can get used to it. It still looks better to me than the over-stylized 1701-D (again, my opinion).
 
I remember reading once that the musical theme for the Klingons for Star Trek: The Motion Picture wasn't recorded until a week before the movie was released. That astounded me back in 1979. Even as a kid, the idea that something so important to the movie could be done so late and still make it to every movie theater in the country just didn't seem possible. More recently, we've seen examples of the production team for (among others) Guardians of the Galaxy tweaking background effects several times before release shows that more elements of movie making can also be delayed now that it is all digital.

These days, I would not be at all surprised if the hero ship for the new series continues to see revisions up to broadcast. Because the ships are no longer physical, it's easy to go in and add detail. Rendering algorithms and hardware keep improving and many scenes can be rendered in near-real-time and re-composited.

This doesn't mean the ship's design 'is shit', it just means that someone last year liked the concepts shown in McQuarrie's paintings and made the decision that Discovery would look like that, and since then, gone through a process of refinement. Even a major change like the position and length of the warp engines is nothing compared to what it would have been back in 1979. Hell, they could change all that again today and redo all the footage needed to show it off next week.

Full disclosure: I like the design of the Discovery. There are things I would change if I was put in charge, but those are aesthetic and aesthetics vary with taste. I propose a simple, falsifiable hypothesis, Rahul: The ship is done and marketing is conducting a staged reveal of all the elements. Said staged reveal should be complete next week at the Las Vegas convention, and that's when we'll see it. I don't think there are any more events scheduled between now and the show's launch. If the ship shows up, then the slow reveal has been a deliberate tease, and the production team isn't afraid of how we'll react (after all, no matter what, some of us will like it, some will hate it, and most of us will tune in anyway). If the ship doesn't show up, then there may be something to your speculation ... that maybe they are changing things at the last minute because they've had a second-thought.

Does that sound reasonable?
 
I always really liked the Ken Adam design/McQuarrie-painting, specifically the asteroid shot. One variant more than the other. I would have absolutely hated it if it were supposed to be the Enterprise. But I think it was nothing short of a stroke of genius to use it as the basis for a different starship.

I had quite a mixed reaction on the Comic Con reveal 2016: They basically made some much needed adjustments - the longer, bigger forward pointing nacelles, a deflector dish. But both the CG as well as the model were pretty crappy. Good enough to serve as a basis. Horrible as a final design.

But the more changes we have seen now, the further they have moved away from the original Adams/McQuarrie design. And the worse they have made it since then. The completely box-like underbelly. The much too thin, extremely long backward pointing nacelles through the design heavily off-balance if watched from above. The two rings of cut-outs don't make a lick of sense, and imply a total length much bigger than the original Enterprise.

But the biggest problem is: The current version IMO just doesn't look very good. And part of the design already was much better. It's like watching a great screenplay (say, Alien:Engineers) that just needs a small polish, but is extremely intruiging. And then someone else comes along, makes a complete rewrite, and we end up with something like Prometheus. Still much to like with it, but riddled with needlessly added problems, and overall just meh.

I have not yet given up hope. Psion might be right, and we might already have our final version. But even if we see another trailer with much better shots of the ship next week, we will only truly, really know when the first episode airs. Until then, I will hold out hope in the end we will end up with a version most of us will like, and the rest can still accept. Hell, even if it stays ugly, the show still might be good anyway. Or the other way round. But it would be a shame, wouldn't it?
 
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To get back to the main topic, and muse about the newest iteration of the starship we've seen:
  • What the hell happened to the shutllebay? Why is it glowing red like christmas tree decoration?
  • Also: They clearly changed the impulse drive from blue to red (next to the shuttlebay). Probably closer to TOS.
  • IMO the overly sharp pointed spearhead-like end of the nacelles clashes with the otherwise more brutish aesthetic of the rest of the ship
  • It seems brighter than before. Almost white-ish yellow, instead of the dark orange of the original version. I like that a lot!
  • Also a big plus: The illuminated sensor dome. Looks a lot like the original Enterprise. Good choice!
  • The boxy, rectancle-y underbelly remains the weak spot. That doesn't look graceful at all.
  • I really, really like the new warp effect! A good clash of the familiar with the new
 
I think that is the glow from the impulse engines.

The impule engines are the glowing red triangles to the left and right of the shuttlebay door.

But the shuttlebay door itself glows too! The square thing in the middle of the rear end.
I wonder why is that?
 
But these landing lights are usually at the edges of the shuttlebay doors - to serve as a navigation help. Not all over the place and inbetween!
I see no reason why not to have it like that...:shrug:

Certainly better than "Emergency Plan B."
 
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