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THE NEW REMASTERED BOX SETS

So if you buy the TOSR sets that are only in standard def, you don't get the original versions?!?!

No, but those season sets were available years ago, and most avid collectors already own them.


You've lost me.

We're talking about the REMASTERED versions of the episodes, being released in Standard Definition.

I asked if the TOSR standard def discs also have the original versions of the episodes, or not.
 
The standard def versions of TOS-R do not have the original versions. These were released a couple of years ago. The current release is exclusively Blu-Ray.
 
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I'd very much like to get them. I have the original releases (and paid about $120 for each season).

I'd love to get my hands on these so I'd have the option of watching original or remastered but... Hasn't Paramount got enough of my money already? And Blu-Ray. Don't they know some of us, probably most of us don't buy Blu-Ray?

Huh? What's the problem? If you already have the originals, then you only need the CGI DVD sets.

You're complaining CBS is scalping you, but you want them to double the number of discs (and the cost?), so you can buy the originals on DVD again?
 
We're talking about the REMASTERED versions of the episodes, being released in Standard Definition.

So am I.

I asked if the TOSR standard def discs also have the original versions of the episodes, or not.
And I said, "No". They're not. Because most old customers already have their TOS-untouched sets.

The current release is exclusively Blu-Ray.

But there are also new DVD season sets of CGI-only, in tin containers. Or at least in Region 4. I bought them last week.
 
The original series was first released in regular definition on DVDs with two episodes per disc (total of 40 discs). These were regular DVD definition, of course, and they weren't the "remastered/new CGI effects" version.

Later, the same episodes (regular "old" versions in regular DVD definition) were released in season sets--three of them, of course, with "The Cage" being on the third season set).

Recently, the new remastered/new CGI were released--all thee seasons. The first season was released in a dual format set. It had both the (now-defunct) HD-DVD high definition version of the remastered/new CGI episode and the flip side of the discs had the exact same remastered/new CGI episodes. So both definitions were available on the first season--but it didn't have the old, non-remastered old special effects episodes on the discs. Those were already available, but not in HD-DVD, of course).

When the second and third seasons were released, the HD-DVD format was dead, and the remastered/new CGI effects were released in just regular DVD format.

Now the epiosdes are coming out again in season sets, this time in Blu-Ray format. They are high definition Blu-Ray, they have the remastered/new CGI special effects versions *and* they have to old original episodes with the old special effects *also* in Blu-Ray thanks to "branching" technology. So this is the first time the original episodes with the original special effects are being released in a high definition (Blue-Ray) format.
 
Now the epiosdes are coming out again in season sets, this time in Blu-Ray format. They are high definition Blu-Ray, they have the remastered/new CGI special effects versions *and* they have to old original episodes with the old special effects *also* in Blu-Ray thanks to "branching" technology. So this is the first time the original episodes with the original special effects are being released in a high definition (Blue-Ray) format.

Yes. But the remastered eps (only, but with features such as Bill Blackburn's home movies) are also out in tin containers of DVDs. At least in Region 2 and 4. Simultaneously with the combo Blu-Ray sets.
 
I just watched Mirror, Mirror and I saw a minor opps they could have fixed.

I clearly saw Enterprise NCC-1701 instead of ICC-1701.

Besides that, nice eposide as always.
 
I'd very much like to get them. I have the original releases (and paid about $120 for each season).

I'd love to get my hands on these so I'd have the option of watching original or remastered but... Hasn't Paramount got enough of my money already? And Blu-Ray. Don't they know some of us, probably most of us don't buy Blu-Ray?

Huh? What's the problem? If you already have the originals, then you only need the CGI DVD sets.

You're complaining CBS is scalping you, but you want them to double the number of discs (and the cost?), so you can buy the originals on DVD again?


I never used the word "scalping" so don't assume and don't put words in my mouth. I'm simply stating I paid full price for the original TOS DVD releases but I'd also like TOS-R with the option of watching it in either original or CGI remastered formats. I don't want two sets of DVDs, one original and one remastered, and I'm disappointed that that option is only available on Blu-Ray.

Pretty simple isn't it.
 
I'd very much like to get them. I have the original releases (and paid about $120 for each season).

I'd love to get my hands on these so I'd have the option of watching original or remastered but... Hasn't Paramount got enough of my money already? And Blu-Ray. Don't they know some of us, probably most of us don't buy Blu-Ray?

Huh? What's the problem? If you already have the originals, then you only need the CGI DVD sets.

You're complaining CBS is scalping you, but you want them to double the number of discs (and the cost?), so you can buy the originals on DVD again?


I never used the word "scalping" so don't assume and don't put words in my mouth. I'm simply stating I paid full price for the original TOS DVD releases but I'd also like TOS-R with the option of watching it in either original or CGI remastered formats. I don't want two sets of DVDs, one original and one remastered, and I'm disappointed that that option is only available on Blu-Ray.

Pretty simple isn't it.

So, someone finally invents a disc that willl finally do the very thing you want it to do (Blu-Ray) but you are disappointed that the *old* kind of discs (regular DVD) can't do the same trick? Yes, it is frustrating.

"I like chaptering in DVDs that allow you to go right to the scene you want, but I'm disappointed that that option isn't available on my old VHS tapes. I have to rewind or fast forward through the whole tape to get to the point I want; these tapes don't have random access to permit me to get right to the spot I want to view. I'm just disappointed that option is only available on DVD."
 
so don't assume and don't put words in my mouth.

I asked you a question. I wasn't assuming, I was asking if my impression of your post was correct.

I don't want two sets of DVDs, one original and one remastered, and I'm disappointed that that option is only available on Blu-Ray.

Pretty simple isn't it.

For you, I guess. But for others out there the thought of having to buy sets where they already owned half the content would be annoying.

You were planning to dispose of your first set?
 
I've got TOS on DVD already.

I'm trying to decide if I should get TOS-R or not.

I saw some of it on Sci-Fi as they were coming out, and the new effects are impressive and cool and all, but I'm not sure if it's "worth buying" the series over again.
It's not at all worth buying on DVD, IMO. The whole point of TOS-R isn't the new CGI FX. That's just an added bonus. The entire point of the remastered episodes is the new high-definition transfer. If you buy it on DVD, you won't be getting anything better than standard resolution.

So if you buy the TOSR sets that are only in standard def, you don't get the original versions?!?!
The original standard definition version of TOS has been available on DVD for years. You don't get that on the blu-ray. You only get the remastered high-definition versions, but with your choice of either original FX and mono audio or the new CGI FX. Both choices are remastered high-definition versions.
 
I just watched Mirror, Mirror and I saw a minor opps they could have fixed.

I clearly saw Enterprise NCC-1701 instead of ICC-1701.

Besides that, nice eposide as always.


My bad. I meant I.S.S. Enterprise instead of ICC-1701.

either way. They did not change it. Minor thing but would have been cool if they had done it.
 
I just watched Mirror, Mirror and I saw a minor opps they could have fixed.

I clearly saw Enterprise NCC-1701 instead of ICC-1701.

Besides that, nice eposide as always.


My bad. I meant I.S.S. Enterprise instead of ICC-1701.

either way. They did not change it. Minor thing but would have been cool if they had done it.

The Enterprise in the mirror universe was an "ISS" - Imperial Starship rather than United Starship.

I went ahead and bit the bullet and bought the TOS-R DVDs.

One of the the hinges on the damn case was broke. :mad:
 
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So, someone finally invents a disc that willl finally do the very thing you want it to do (Blu-Ray) but you are disappointed that the *old* kind of discs (regular DVD) can't do the same trick? Yes, it is frustrating.

Funny, my normal Doctor Who DVDs do exactly that. I have the option of watching quite a few in original or CGI. No Blu-Ray invloved. ;)

so don't assume and don't put words in my mouth.

I asked you a question. I wasn't assuming, I was asking if my impression of your post was correct.

Sticking "You're complaining... scalping" at the beginning didn't make that part read like a question.

I don't want two sets of DVDs, one original and one remastered, and I'm disappointed that that option is only available on Blu-Ray.

Pretty simple isn't it.
For you, I guess. But for others out there the thought of having to buy sets where they already owned half the content would be annoying.

You were planning to dispose of your first set?
Actually, yes, I was. There's no point in having two sets of DVDs, one original, one CGI remastered when I could have both on one. I'd simply give my originals to a friend.
 
I'm not trying to be a d*ck, honestly, but someone help me with the logic here. You own the original standard definition episodes on DVD, then you get the remastered DVDs, which you can also only see in standard definition on your DVD player. Isn't that like owning two copies of the same movie, one in black and white, one in color, when you only own a black and white TV?
 
Isn't that like owning two copies of the same movie, one in black and white, one in color, when you only own a black and white TV?

I don't really need to go Blu-Ray yet, but buying the new DVD CGI sets is my only way to see the newly-created footage, and view the new bonus material. And the other footage is also beautifully cleaned up. It's like seeing 79 brand new episodes!
 
I'm not trying to be a d*ck, honestly, but someone help me with the logic here. You own the original standard definition episodes on DVD, then you get the remastered DVDs, which you can also only see in standard definition on your DVD player. Isn't that like owning two copies of the same movie, one in black and white, one in color, when you only own a black and white TV?

I may not be typical, but after I already had the season sets (well, and the 40 separate two-episodes per disc versions also, but that's another story), I went out and got the TOS-R sets (all three seasons) on regular definition. Why? Because in addition to having some additional CGI visual effects inserted (which is neither her not there for me), the episodes were remastered. All the nicks and scratches were removed from the film and all the colors were balanced correctly. Even in regular definition, the clean-up work is breathtaking. There are so many details I've been able to notice in second and third season episodes that have helped me analyze props and set decorations. The detail and clean-up work on these regular definition DVDs has been so valuable, I just couldn't afford to wait until the Blu-Ray versions of the disc get released.
 
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