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Then don't show up 15-30 minutes before the movie starts?

I generally try not to, but I don't always succeed. Plus I just dislike the concept of them on general principles. I'm old enough to remember a time when movies were a place to be free from the relentless assault of advertising. Ads just keep taking over more and more of our lives and it's obnoxious.
 
Our cinema is usually fairly decent (with regard other people) though there are about 10 minutes of adverts, then 3 or 4 trailers.
 
I'm just talking about the slides and video clips that start about 20 minutes or so before the movie's start time, not the trailers and stuff that goes with the movie.
That's what I mean, the commercials before the trailers proper.
There's generally a three tier ad format at the theatres. There's the "Pre-Show" (as they call it at the theatres I go" that go on for the twenty minutes prior to the advertised start time. Stuff like interviews with actors about upcoming movies, trivia questions and other assorted stuff that has commercials interspersed throughout it. Then when the advertised start time arrives and the lights go out, they start with general commercials for a variety of things, cars, restaurants, popular food, whatever. Usually extended versions of commercials you see during a typical commercial break on network TV. And finally, the actual trailers for forthcoming films.
 
Then when the advertised start time arrives and the lights go out, they start with general commercials for a variety of things, cars, restaurants, popular food, whatever. Usually extended versions of commercials you see during a typical commercial break on network TV.

Yeah, that's the problem. There are commercials on TV to pay for the shows so you can watch TV for free. That's the tradeoff -- either you pay with money or you pay by enduring the annoyance and interruption of commercials. So it seems kind of cruel to make us do both.

And it's strange, too, because for decades, the trend was for movies to try to attract audiences by offering what TV couldn't, which is why widescreen and IMAX were invented, FX budgets skyrocketed, 3D was periodically experimented with, etc. These days, the difference between the two is diminishing and the movie industry doesn't seem to be resisting that anymore.
 
I guess I never really thought of those as having any effect on my movie going experience, they're just something to watch so we're not sitting their with a blank screen for 20 minutes waiting for the movie to start. But I'm not as bothered by commercials as much as some people seem to be, in fact there are quite a few commercials I like and will actually stop what I'm doing to watch.
 
And besides which they all take place before the movie, not interrupting it, so it's hardly the same.

Now, maybe. But there was a time when they weren't there at all, and now they are, so you can't expect things to remain unchanged. If they've encroached that much, how long will it be before they start putting commercial breaks in the middle of movies, just to ensure you can't avoid the ads by coming in late? There's already a ton of product placement within movies.
 
They also used to have intermissions and live orchestras, so things can change.

But what's going to make it change even faster it's people poo-pooing the cinema experience and saying "Oh it's just as good at home."
 
But what's going to make it change even faster it's people poo-pooing the cinema experience and saying "Oh it's just as good at home."

Yes, but usually in the opposite of the direction you're implying. As I said, there's a long history of movies making a conscious effort to be less like TV, to offer things it doesn't, like wide screens and stereo and 3D and higher production values. The odd thing is that the industry these days seems to have given up the fight and let the difference between movies and TV diminish until it barely exists anymore.

But really, my original point was not to say that movies suck these days, but to say that TV has gotten better. These days, a home TV can be as high-quality as a movie screen (heck, I've been in small movie theaters whose screens are basically big projection TVs, and movies are delivered to theaters via digital stream much as they're delivered to computers and smart TVs), and many streaming services are commercial-free. So one shouldn't pooh-pooh direct-to-streaming as an unworthy way to release a movie. Especially in the current worldwide conditions, it's a legitimate alternative. Heck, it's odd that we're even still having this debate, because several studios have already done exactly what I suggested days ago and committed to releasing their movies direct to streaming while the theaters are closed. I'm not saying movie theaters should cease to exist, just that I don't have a problem with the alternative, and that maybe it's outdated to romanticize theaters as something special and sublime rather than just one of mulitple options we now have.
 
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They also used to have intermissions and live orchestras, so things can change.

But what's going to make it change even faster it's people poo-pooing the cinema experience and saying "Oh it's just as good at home."

It's better at home.

If cinemas don't want to go the way of the dodo, then they have to work harder to get us to spend our money there, and putting in (non-trailer) commercials and ads is the opposite way to do that.

I honestly won't go out of my way to see the New Mutants movie in a theatre anyways. But when I can watch it at home, I'll definitely do that.
 
Now, maybe. But there was a time when they weren't there at all, and now they are, so you can't expect things to remain unchanged. If they've encroached that much, how long will it be before they start putting commercial breaks in the middle of movies, just to ensure you can't avoid the ads by coming in late? There's already a ton of product placement within movies.
I don't know if it's the same everywhere, but at my theater, it's the theater that's doing the commercials, and have no real connection to the movie itself, so I can't really see them interfering the movie itself.
 
I don't know if it's the same everywhere, but at my theater, it's the theater that's doing the commercials, and have no real connection to the movie itself, so I can't really see them interfering the movie itself.

Same for ours. Our cinema ads tend to be for local businesses.
 
My main theater is an MJR and they play the MJR theme song before the movie and there's this part where it's nearly irresistible to clap along so it becomes an audience participation piece. Luckily they don't really do the commercials thing so much that I can remember (I'd confirm it but they're shut down indefinitely though it may be because I leave 10 minutes before the movie starts with the aforementioned reserved seats).

I do hope we don't completely lose the desire to make big "cinematic" movies. I hope shifting focus to streaming to home screens and phones and tablets doesn't mean we lose the scope of top notch moviemaking.
 
Yeah, while I don't mind watching smaller movies at home, I'd hate to lose the experience for the bigger blockbuster movies.
I do think right now, since we have no idea when we'll even be able to go the theater again, it is a good idea for them to just be released on the VOD or streaming services.
I'm curious what's going to happen once all of the theaters are back up and running. Are we going to get a massive rush as everybody tries to get everything out as quickly possible? Are we going end up with weekends with like 10 or 20 movies being released?
At least by releasing stuff on VOD they can still get the money for them, and there won't be as much of a rush to get things out once the theaters are opened back up.
 
I do hope we don't completely lose the desire to make big "cinematic" movies. I hope shifting focus to streaming to home screens and phones and tablets doesn't mean we lose the scope of top notch moviemaking.

Lots of people have really big TVs at home. And heck, my computer monitor fills up more of my field of view when I sit right in front of it than my larger TV does when I'm way over on the couch.

I don't understand why anyone would want to watch a movie on a phone screen, unless they had no other option. Although I have recently discovered that I prefer reading e-books on my phone to reading them on my computer screen.

I can still appreciate the theater experience in a good theater, with a big screen and a quality sound system. I've experienced some impressive moments in the theater. For instance, the first time I saw the 2009 Star Trek was in such a theater, and the bang of starships going to warp was really impressive there, more so than in any other theater or at home. And when I saw the 2014 Godzilla in 3D in the theater, I was amazed by the palpable sense of vastness when Godzilla loomed over the camera. But many theaters these days are much smaller and less impressive. The theater where I saw Incredibles 2, for instance, was not much larger than a well-appointed living room and the screen probably comparable in size to an expensive home-theater TV. So rather than a yawning chasm between the quality of the theater and home-video experiences, it's more of a continuous spectrum. They kind of meet in the middle.
 
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The theater I go to has some tiny theaters way in the back, so if I see that something is playing in one of those theaters I don't bother going to see it then, since it's not anywhere near as impressive as seeing on one of the bigger screens up in the front.
 
:eek:

Hopefully we'll actually get to see it on the big screen and not pushed onto Disney+ like Artemis Fowl.
 
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