The New Mutants -- news, rumors, opix, etc;

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  1. Christopher

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    You should generally assume that changing things from the comics is the rule in movies rather than the exception, since comics continuity is very convoluted and haphazard and very, very vast, so movies tend to distill the most interesting or useful bits and put them together (ideally) more cohesively. The only exceptions are adaptations of specific single works like Watchmen or Scott Pilgrim vs. the World, and even there, some liberties are bound to be taken in the translation from page to screen.
     
  2. Turtletrekker

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    What footage was from Logan? I actually haven't seen it yet as I was in fact waiting to see this movie first before watching it so that Logan could be my last Fox-Men movie.
     
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    It's secretly recorded footage from a cell phone that's delivered to Logan to show the horrors of the Essex Corporation, which is seen by Dani during one of her "tests."
     
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    OK, well I thought it was decent enough. Could have done with another 20 mins or so for suspense and character building, but for a mid-budget low stakes teen character focused piece with light horror/adventure elements (the Buffy clips were very apropos in that regard), I'd call it a successful execution. Way better than Dark Phoenix was, so at least the Fox/20thC franchise doesn't end on a total wet fart.
    Pretty wild that between this, Logan and the Deadpool movies, the high points of the latter years of the franchise were actually the spinoffs!
    What are you nuts? Go watch Logan this instant! In fact, I may watch the Noir Edition tonight!
     
  5. JD

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    So takes place after Logan then?
    I had been wondering if that might end up being the case since they first started talking about what the story was going to be.
    It's kind of shame that after the possible set up in Apocalypse and this that we'll never get to see their version of Sinister.
     
  6. Christopher

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    From what I've read, the movie's setting comes off more like the 1990s. Also, the characters talk about the X-Men as an active concern, not a long-defunct team. So I think the stock footage isn't necessarily meant to be literally the same thing it was in Logan; like a lot of stock footage, it could be repurposed to represent something else. Or maybe it's a vision of the future.
     
  7. Reverend

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    I think it's fairly ambiguous. Indeed, the whole movie has almost a timeless quality to it in that aside from the doctor having a mobile phone, there's no really overt clues as to when it takes place. Could be now, could be a decade ago, could be in the dystopian Logan future. Using the Logan footage could have been less of a continuity thing and more of a budget thing. Easier to just use what they already when it looks generic enough than have than shoot basically the same thing with second unit plus VFX. Or it could literally have been the same incidents. In point of fact, I think one of the shots features Laura, but you can't quit see her face.
     
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    Fantastic! I'm very happy they've managed to achieve some success after the long road the production went through.

    ...but fuck that news article for playing up The New Mutants' so-called "theatrical box office flop" when it was released during a fucking global pandemic, which they don't even bother to mention. :rolleyes:
     
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  10. JD

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    Yeah, after all the time they spent on it, it deserves to get at least some recognition.
     
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    I kinda suspected it'd be a bit of a cult hit, though I'm a little surprised it got the numbers this early. Probably shouldn't be given the paucity of comic book movies this year and the ongoing demand for anything new. Honestly, it probably would have done even better had they just put it on for download at Halloween.
     
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  12. JD

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    Anybody heard any rumors yet about when this might pop up on Disney+ or Huly?
     
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    From what I heard it actually has to go to HBO Max, for a while at least, as part of the deal Fox had with them for X-Men movies before Disney bought FOX
     
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    That makes sense. But VOD is the same thing as renting from Blockbuster back in the day. I am as guilty as anybody in that I only "rent" movie on VOD when they are something I really want to see, but I remember renting four or five movies a couple of weekends a month back in the day--without blinking.
     
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    Tonally, it probably fits better with HBO Max than Disney+. I know D+ has all the Marvel but the content seems more in line with what's on HBO.
     
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    Right, I forgot about that. Dark Phoenix is already on there, so it wouldn't be the only X-Men movie there.
     
  17. Turtletrekker

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    I love this guy. Somehow, this schtick never gets old.

     
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    The shtick is super easy. Barely an inconvenience.
     
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    Just finished watching and thought it was good. Infinitely better than Dark Phoenix and Apocalypse. I liked the cast and thought the story was interesting. I'm glad the Fox X movies ended with a decent flick. It would have been nice to see this in the theater though. A sequel would have been nice too.
     
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    Now that I've finally seen it, I can sort of see why the studio maybe wanted reshoots...but I'm also glad that they never got around to it. It's a fair bet that the re-jigged version wouldn't have been better in many significant ways, and probably worse in some. The main thing I'd probably change would be fewer "info via screen text" shots. They started to feel like nervous exposition after a while.

    Overall, I enjoyed it. (And I have a sneaking suspicion that I'll like it more on future reviewings.)

    Edit:

    Remember that brief little stink over spelling Bob McLeod's name wrong?

    They did fix it. (Assuming it was ever incorrect, by Bob's own admission he hadn't seen the movie, just heard from someone else.) The Blu-ray spells it McLeod. Now quit yer bitchin', Bob. ;)
     
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