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The New Mutants -- news, rumors, opix, etc;

It's pretty hard to imagine anyone at Marvel Ent. would want or allow this to be a MCU movie. Essentially, having their direction going forward (in regards to Mutants) be dictated by a movie made years earlier for a different studio? C'mon.
Unless this happens to be a movie that doesn't tie them to a particular direction or, by happy coincidence, fits with what they are planning.
 
I highly doubt this movie will define what mutants are in the MCU. Even if it was broadly compatible with where they want to go, they wouldn't want these characters in this setting to be the first MCU mutants.

But I think it is perfectly plausible it could be the first movie to be grandfathered into the MCU by way of the upcoming multiverse concepts. We could potentially see Anya Taylor Joy, Maisie Williams, etc, carry their characters forward in the MCU - *after* the X-men proper have been established (or play the MCU native versions of their characters).

All of this is of course dependent on the movie (or at least some characters in it) being a strong success.
 
Just change MCU to MCM and you're set. Scarlet Witch and Dr Strange could make it so that everything is part of the MCU. All the different Fox and Sony movies could easily fit into one big multiverse. Heck, even Elektra and the Fantastic Four movie from the 90s. All 4 Punishers.

In other words, copy what the Arrowverse just did with Crisis on Infinite Earths.

Although, well, Into the Spider-Verse implied it already, at least as far as Spidey adaptations are concerned, since a couple of the alternate Spideys' lives were very similar to the Sam Raimi Spidey's, and there was that nod to the '60s cartoon at the end. I gather they actually considered including Maguire's, Garfield's, and Holland's Spideys in the film but decided it would be "too confusing."
 
Well, apparently the newsletter of D23, "The Official Disney Fan Club," is calling New Mutants "a seriously electrifying new addition to the Marvel Cinematic Universe." The comics news sites are already reporting this as "proof" that the movie is set in the MCU continuity, but I'm still not entirely convinced, since sometimes these promotional blurbs use terms differently than fans do, or overstate or missstate things. Still, if it is true, we'll probably get confirmation from somebody before long. But it's hard to see how it reconciles with the director's statement that it's his original cut from when the film was meant to be part of the Fox X-Men universe.
I don't know where they got the information from, but IGN states pretty definitively that it is NOT part of the MCU. They're usually one of the more trustworthy sites when it comes to this kind of stuff, so I believe them. Their article also says that the story where it was called and MCU movie had already been pulled by the time their article was updated at 9:01pm last night.
 
According to Digital Spy, the director told them back in 2017 (in a set-visit interview that I guess they've been sitting on until now) that the movie was "absolutely an X-Men movie" and would make references to the X-Men film continuity.

https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a30581967/new-mutants-josh-boone-director-x-men-connection/
"There's references and things that happen that are part of the greater whole, but we very much wanted it to tonally and aesthetically stand on its own," Boone said.

And since he said more recently that the upcoming film is the version he cut back then, it seems that New Mutants will actually be the last entry in the Fox X-Men continuity, rather than an MCU immigrant or some kind of standalone. Which fits with the other stuff we've heard recently.
 
Well, I guess that settles that. For now, anyways, we won't know for certain until we actually see it. Works for me.
 
Yeah, it's been known for a while that the reshoots were Fox's idea to punch up the horror aspects (by which they probably actually meant "insert some jump scares"), which all got put into limbo when the buyout negotiations started.
 
American movies and their jump scares. Even good movies aren't immune to them. Take ORPHAN. In the first ten mnutes, Vera Farmiga moves a mirror in our direction. We see a face. So does she. The music doesn't swell, it explodes. And all it is her fricking husband!!! In their fricking house!!!! JEEZ, how pathetic can you get????

Oh, that's been a thriller trope going back decades -- the fakeout scares to keep the audience uneasy and not knowing when the real scare is coming. It happened all the time in '50s B movies -- a hand reaches into frame to grab the heroine's shoulder, she jumps in fear, and it turns out to be her boyfriend/husband/boss and everything's fine.

Heck, Hitchcock did it in Psycho -- Marion was afraid the whole time she was on the run, afraid she was being followed or that the policeman would catch her, yet none of that prepared her for what she really had to be afraid of. That's part of how fear works -- it makes us imagine threats where they don't exist. So of course showing that the characters are frightened by things that turn out harmless is part of establishing the mood of a horror movie, conveying the characters' uneasy state of mind.
 
Once. At the auto dealership. I still jump up at that ''HEY!!!!''

I think it was more than one instance, it was the pervasive tone of tension and fear throughout her flight. Even that long driving scene where nothing is happening but Benny Herrmann's strings are working overtime to make us afraid something will.
 
Jump scares as a trope aren't a problem. The problem arises when they're abused as a substitute for actual suspense and horror. Modern horrors do seem to depend on them more and more, very rarely with any sense of genre awareness often making them cheap an ineffectual. The "grabbed from off-screen" and "bathroom mirror" ones are so overused in fact that you can seem them coming a mile off, utterly robbing them of their intended effect.

For example, both 'Alien' and 'Aliens' had several jump scares, some false, some actual, but all well timed and effective.
It's OK to make the audience jump, but you have to earn it. Otherwise you're just that guy that keeps telling the same joke over and over and over because it got a good laugh the first time...which needless to say gets old fast.
 
A jump scare is traditionally one, sometimes two seconds.

But it's the same general principle -- making the audience feel the characters' unease, never knowing when a real threat might materialize. I'm not talking about the form of a jump scare, I'm talking about its function.
 
I mean, these characters have absolutely no connection to the real characters outside of their names, so who cares which ones are in a relationship? Sure, the real Rahne being gay is totally counter to the character (seriously, I'd be fine with Magik being changed if they needed to, or using the already established in the comics as gay Karma, but the hardcore Catholic Rahne who has been expressely straight in the comics, including having a kid with a male wolf god, is the last character that should get that change), but this is just a generic PG-13 "teen" horror film, so, once again, who cares?

Once this turd gets laid, the FOX-Men will be dead and gone, so what this movie does really doesn't matter.
 
Josh Boone has revealed some of their plans for the second movie in the planned trilogy, and also their original planned post-credits scene. He also revealed that they never actually shot the post credits scene once the Disney sale made the sequel it was setting up unlikely.
The post-credits scene was going to feature Antonio Banderas as Roberto/Sunspot's father, Emmanuel de Costa, who was going to be villain the second movie, The New Mutants: Brazil. Brazil was going to follow Roberto and the other New Mutants as they went to Brazil to reunit with his mother, who Emmanuel is trying to kill.
Brazil was also going to introduce Warlock and Karma, Karma was going to start out a villain, but would have joined the team by the end of the movie.
 
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