The New Movie: What Are Your Fears?

[Armus]

As a Star Trek fan I am very disappointed by the looks of the new trailer. "You always had a hard time finding your way in the world, never knowing your true worth..." Melodramatic "intense" music, A woman stripping in her quarters, cut to a couple in the throes of passion, lots of explosions and incoherence, a goofy Scotsman quipping, and some unimaginative looking alien saying "The wait is over." Hmmmmm.

I am a purist(I just like TOS and the first 2 Movies, and some TNG and DS9 here and there) but I know there's gotta be a few fans like myself who worry that the new film is going to decimate the memories of the original show, especially of Kirk.

Kirk shouldn't be portrayed as utterly reckless, cocky, and undisciplined. Kirk sometimes makes up his own rules, but in the original show, William Shatner always portrayed him as a dedicated, no nonsense, Starship commander who took his responsibilities very seriously.

That's my worry. What are some other fans' fears?

 

[Patrickivan]

I liked the movies with the original crew. Some considered it a re-boot of the series and characters, but I saw it as a direct evolution of their growth and development. The special effects and writing had to evolve to remain contemporary and relevant.

What I fear about this new movie, is that the history of these characters are cheated and made irrelevant. Pushed aside by a stroke of the pen and explained away as being from an alternate time-line. I consider this to be a cheap story device.

That being said, despite that fact that these actors can not re-create the chemistry between the original, and despite the goofy bridge and Enterprise design, it could be a compelling story that will make us believe these are our intrepid heroes.

The tough part is going to be all the speculation leading up to the movie. Some things have been released that really make me hesitant about going to see this movie at the cinema.

I can see Kirk being a bit of a trouble maker as a cadet, but an over achieving character like Locarno in TNG's, The First Duty... Not to the extreme of covering up a horrible accident, but the type who would take the chance of organising a banned flight maneuver at a special event. He would succeed, get reprimanded, but get noticed. He is great at what he does, but his growth comes from getting over his own ego- becoming a more humble person without loosing his drive.

I still maintain that this movie could have been made with a new crew, new ship, and new stories. Our heroes have lived. Their history established in Trek Lore. They should have been left alone.

I also can't believe that not only is this yet another time travel story, but the antagonist is yet another bald evil romulan! Yes, I know Shinzon wasn't Romulan, but it was close enough. And, if the writing is anything even close to the comic book <shudder>, then that will cause me to walk out of the theatre, or turn in my DVD, and demand my money back.

Again, it could be a really good movie, and I truly hope it is!

 

[Kpnuts]

Kirk shouldn't be portrayed as utterly reckless, cocky, and undisciplined. Kirk sometimes makes up his own rules, but in the original show, William Shatner always portrayed him as a dedicated, no nonsense, Starship commander who took his responsibilities very seriously.

Is it really that hard to believe that he wasn't always the confident starship captain we see in TOS?

Isn't it infinitely more interesting to see how he started off, and how he BECAME the TOS captain we know, rather than the same Shatner-type Kirk.

 

[The Wormhole]

I fear the unwashed masses will actually enjoy it and that this watered-down neutured version of Trek becomes Star Trek, ignoring 42 years of quality that preceeded it.

I also fear having to deal with slack-jawed yokels calling themselves Trek fans just because they like this movie. Being a Trek fan is something special and above fandom of any other type. You can not expect to be accepted into our august numbers just because you like this movie.

I fear the movie might actually be good, thus making rants like this and others I've made condemning the movie obsolete, and making me look like a retarded moron.

I also fear the number zero, its power, its influence. And the presence it'll have in the movie.

 

[trevanian]

Kirk shouldn't be portrayed as utterly reckless, cocky, and undisciplined. Kirk sometimes makes up his own rules, but in the original show, William Shatner always portrayed him as a dedicated, no nonsense, Starship commander who took his responsibilities very seriously.

Is it really that hard to believe that he wasn't always the confident starship captain we see in TOS?

Isn't it infinitely more interesting to see how he started off, and how he BECAME the TOS captain we know, rather than the same Shatner-type Kirk.

Not if what is shown as development isn't credible. CASINO ROYALE fails utterly for me because it shows Bond as so immature he would be about 14 years old, not 37.

 

[Kpnuts]

Bond acted like a 14 year old in Casino royale? That's news to me. I thought he did an excellent job, especially given the fact that he was recently promoted etc

 

[mr.peany]

My fears are that the number of rabid so called "fans" who post on this message board are going to be so narrow minded, ironically going against what Star Trek at its core is about, that they will be unwilling to allow a new interpretation to be given a chance.

Other than that, no real fears as such. I do however hope that there is a general sense of wonder and awe that, imho, Star Trek should invoke.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

My fears are that the number of rabid so called "fans" who post on this message board are going to be so narrow minded, ironically going against what Star Trek at its core is about, that they will be unwilling to allow a new interpretation to be given a chance.

Other than that, no real fears as such. I do however hope that there is a general sense of wonder and awe that, imho, Star Trek should invoke.

I have to agree with that and add that I fear that these same rabid fans will come to this site after the movie hits theaters and in post after post slam the movie even if it is good and then insult anyone who doesn't agree with them or that people that really like this movie will then insult the not annoying naysayers who don't try to beat you over the head with their opinions, yes those actually exist.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

No fear.

 

[Saul]

The rabid fans of canon will have a match with the rabid insulting fans of reboot who can't take a critical view from someone else? what's new? How is this a fear for enjoying the movie? Just another way to blame people unrelated to the finished product.

 

[Patrickivan]

Come one people, there's no reason to rag on those who may not like it. If they don't like it, this site is here for them to talk about it, just as it is for those who do.

Of course some won't like it, and some will. But just because it is new, doesn't mean fans have to like it. If it's good enough and receives generally good public reviews, a few fans who don't like it will not change the opinions of those who don't. And their views are no less valid about that movie then from those who like it, or want to like it.

My primary fear has achieved fruition already. That some fans will turn on other fans simply becasuse they don't like, or do like, where this film is going. That's the true failure of this film.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

I fear the unwashed masses will actually enjoy it and that this watered-down neutured version of Trek becomes Star Trek, ignoring 42 years of quality that preceeded it.

I also fear having to deal with slack-jawed yokels calling themselves Trek fans just because they like this movie. Being a Trek fan is something special and above fandom of any other type. You can not expect to be accepted into our august numbers just because you like this movie.

I fear the movie might actually be good, thus making rants like this and others I've made condemning the movie obsolete, and making me look like a retarded moron.

I also fear the number zero, its power, its influence. And the presence it'll have in the movie.

What if this film is NOT watered-down and neutered, and is in fact a very exciting and interesting film that is considered worthy by fans (like you) to be called "Star Trek"...

...but those unwashed slack-jawed yokels like it anyway?

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

My only fear is that The Wormhole's humor is too sly for many of us. I've stumbled over it a couple of times.

 

[Swarles Barkley]

I have no fears. It's just a frakkin' movie. Even if it sucks eggs the reality is that does nothing to "destroy" the original, unless you choose to let it do so in your own perception, which is your own problem. If it tanks and as a result no more new Trek is produced, ever, (which I doubt would happen, after all, the franchise survived Nemesis), I still have decades worth of good stuff to enjoy.

I'll go see it, with an open mind. If it rocks, great. If it sucks, life goes on.

 

[Patrickivan]

My only fear is that The Wormhole's humor is too sly for many of us. I've stumbled over it a couple of times.

Sly? It was glaringly obvious and unfortunately condescending.

 

[maryh]

My fear is that they didn't get down the character of Spock correctly and have made him too emotionally uncontrolled. In doing so, they will ruin the chemistry and balance between the Big 3. The personalities and characteristics of Vulcans seemed to change after TOS with most writers making them into emotionally repressed humans - not differing emotionally from humans innately. IMO the writers were TNG fans so they have written Spock's character differently than I would have liked.

No matter - I'll make the proper adjustments in my expectations and welcome the changes. Hopefully I won't be disappointed.

 

[JKLand]

The only rear fear that I have, is that it will suck and I will have waisted my money in going to see it.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Sly? It was glaringly obvious and unfortunately condescending.

Condescending to fans, as opposed to the continual and unfounded condescension that many fans show to people who don't give a f--- what a Cardassian is? Perish the thought.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

My fear is that they didn't get down the character of Spock correctly and have made him too emotionally uncontrolled. In doing so, they will ruin the chemistry and balance between the Big 3....

I generally agree with Maryh here, but my fear isn't that they show Spock too emotional, or for that matter Kirk too cocky -- that won't bother me too much.

My fear is that the "epiphany moment" for both emotional Spock and cocky Kirk that causes them to change their ways will not be a believable one. I think it would be very difficult for this film to capture the "maturization" of BOTH of these characters in a believable way -- even doing that for one character is a challenge.

Although, perhaps the maturizataion of Kirk and Spock are intertwined with each other in a very coherent way -- meaning that each character needed the other to help them become the person we know from TOS. THAT would potentially be a very interesting aspect of this film

 

[jgdst]

My only fear is that if it tanks for whatever reason, there may not be new Trek for a good long while.

As mentioned above, the franchise (barely) survived Nemesis. It even survived The Final Frontier, so I have no doubt Trek would be back. But sooner rather than later, eh?