The New Klingons

[{ Emilia }]

Makeup has actually progressed a lot in the last 12 years. Lots of new materials out there to let expressions come through.

As @Kevin Wolff just pointed out, I'm more worried about subtle acting not making it through. It's just a little too much in my opinion, no matter how much the materials have improved. Certainly no deal-breaker but you don't have to love every single stuff about the new show right now, @RAMA, you know that, right?

 

[RAMA]

As @Kevin Wolff just pointed out, I'm more worried about subtle acting not making it through. It's just a little too much in my opinion, no matter how much the materials have improved. Certainly no deal-breaker but you don't have to love every single stuff about the new show right now, @RAMA, you know that, right?

I haven't seen anything bad yet. I'm judging 2:24 min of footage. When the episodes come on we'll see how they are.

My vague impression is a background of war, rather than war, and Green holds some sort of key to stopping it. Brinkmanship for 15 episodes can make for a pretty tense story without having combat every few minutes. We know we have a great team of writers, Nick Meyer wrote the pilot.

 

[{ Emilia }]

I haven't seen anything bad yet. I'm judging 2:24 min of footage. When the episodes come on we'll see how they are.

My vague impression is a background of war, rather than war, and Green holds some sort of key to stopping it. Brinkmanship for 15 episodes can make for a pretty tense story without having combat every few minutes. We know we have a great team of writers, Nick Meyer wrote the pilot.

Now that would suck. 15 hours of brinkmanship means we won't get to see strange new worlds and new civilizations.

 

[RAMA]

Now that would suck. 15 hours of brinkmanship means we won't get to see strange new worlds and new civilizations.

Well as has been pointed out, trek was rarely about exploration, it had it as a backgound. Honestly, in a few quick scenes in the trailer Green seems concerned about exploring, so very Trek-like.

 

[Jono]

Not a fan of the new look. It makes them look like your generic monsters. We didn't get to see much of them, but it is hard to separate them out as individuals and I am worried that the Klingon characters might not stand out. That they could be a bit too interchangeable. One thing I felt the reboot Trek really lacked is in developing strong, rounded individual protagonists and I'm hoping Discovery won't continue that.

 

[RAMA]

Not a fan of the new look. It makes them look like your generic monsters. We didn't get to see much of them, but it is hard to separate them out as individuals and I am worried that the Klingon characters might not stand out. That they could be a bit too interchangeable. One thing I felt the reboot Trek really lacked is in developing strong, rounded individual protagonists and I'm hoping Discovery won't continue that.

Not likely, as a "novel" we are likely to get a long development of Klingons.

 

[{ Emilia }]

Well as has been pointed out, trek was rarely about exploration, it had it as a backgound. Honestly, in a few quick scenes in the trailer Green seems concerned about exploring, so very Trek-like.

I was commenting on your scenario. That's what I didn't like.
Whether or not Trek has shown wars before is irrelevant to whether or not I prefer exploration.

I'm not saying showing a war wouldn't fit Trek. It wouldn't fit MY preferences.

 

[Mad Jack Wolfe]

"I am Commander T'Kuvma. But my friends call me 'Squints'."

 

[LtChange]

I think we should wait fro an explanation for these Klingons. I'm pretty sure there is more to them than just a simple redesign. Maybe the lack of body hair has an explanation too.

 

[cultcross]

Maybe the lack of body hair has an explanation too

God i hope not.

 

[{ Emilia }]

Maybe they live underwater and the lack of hair makes them more hydrodynamic!

 

[DamarsKanar]

What if they are actually the Klingon gods? They don't look totally unlike Fek'lhr in TNG Devil's Due (minus the hair). Plus Bryan Fuller wrote Voyager's Barge of the Dead. Could be a continuation of his interest in Klingon mythology seeded into the concept for Discovery. Of course in reality Klingon 'gods' might mean an original, different race of Klingons.

 

[Mudd]

I think we should wait fro an explanation for these Klingons. I'm pretty sure there is more to them than just a simple redesign. Maybe the lack of body hair has an explanation too.

Klingscaping.

 

[Kevin Wolff]

Lol. Klingon wax. Keep your exo-spine looking smooth from end to end

 

[Kevin Wolff]

The hair and beards are a staple of the Klingon look. Hard to believe they just abandoned them completely. These guys must be the Shaolin monks of the empire or something like that.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

Because all humans have hair / don't shave their heads? No bald Klingon shaming here!!!!!!! XD

 

[Gojira]

I love the new look. They look like intimidating warriors!

 

[CorporalClegg]

I get a bit of an old 40s/50s sci-fi vibe from them.

 

[INACTIVEUSS Einstein]

 

[JediMindMeld]

I love them! They actually look menacing. They've always looked and moved around like overweight cosplayers in previous incarnations of prime Star Trek, and it made it impossible to take them seriously for me.

I'm curious to hear the klingons speak on the show and see if there are actual traces of intelligence to them this time. The only thing more ridiculous than their general appearance in TNG And DS9 was their thin-skinned nature that made you wonder how these simpletons were ever able to develop warp drive technology in the first place. They're supposed to be an advanced race of fearsome warriors. We have very limited evidence to go on here, but Discovery seems to get at least half of the equation right so far.