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The New Dax - Cooperative Writing DISCUSSION

^Ha ha that's awesome! That's exactly what I'd envisioned, a V'tosh'katur who wants Dax as XO. :) Nice.

And I think we can go with Perjon, I like it. :)
 
^ I like it. Plenty of emotion. I like that in a story. Too much pew pew nowadays. And i love the ghost whisperer angle.

Oh, and Rush. We're so on the same wavelength :-) About the memory thing.

USS Trafalgar

Captain's ready room, Deck 1



The door chime rang, jolting Captain Valon from his thoughts. “Come.” He called out as Lieutenant Donovan stepped in. The engineering noncom turned acting XO remained at attention, something that Valon hated. He made a swooshing gesture for him to loosen up.

“You sent for me, sir?” Donovan asked. Complying with what he considered permission to stand at ease.

“Yes, I did. How’s the resupply going? We need to be in orbit of Cardassia Prime in 14 hours. We’re being sent out again. Once we drop off the parts for the DaVinci, we’ll be heading out to the border. And I don’t want hear it, Lieutenant. I know precisely how much you despise border patrol.”

“Aye sir.” Donovan smiled. “If I may ask, sir. – How’s the hunt going?”

“Hunt? – Oh, you mean Dax. I found him in holding cell. He wasn’t very… How should I put it? Optimistic about returning to Starfleet.”

Donovan looked quizzical. “Returning, sir? I wasn’t aware that he left in the first place. – Ah, you didn’t tell him about the status of his resignation, did you? Or the arrest warrant for that matter.”

“No. I didn’t want to threaten him. If he reconsiders, he’ll be here in…” He looked at his computer. “six hours. If not, he’s not the man I’m looking for and don’t want him as my XO anyway. So no harm done. Starfleet security can take him on the desertion charge if they want to.”

“So how was he? Should I worry if he’s going to bash my head in if he has a bad day? With all due respect, sir. He doesn’t seem so stable.” Donovan pointed out.

Valon shook his head. “I'm not saying he's the model officer. Not after the Ballona, at least. But if he’s half the officer Ezri was, I need him.” He said. “I don’t know if he was just beaten and hung-over or plain indifferent, but he didn’t recognize me. I just hope there still some Dax in him after everything he’s been through.”

Donavan noticed the sad look on Valon’s face. “You miss her, don’t you?”

“Yes, I do. Very much. I wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for Ezri. The Borg destroyed Shi’Kahr, and there was nothing I could do. I thought my life was over. Quite frankly, I wanted to die. Everyone I ever cared about was dead. Ezri Dax taught me to live again. You know, I handed in my resignation three times. She denied every single one. When I sent her my fourth, she called me into her ready room. She took the padd and approved it. Just like that, without a word. Then, when I turned to leave she stopped me. She said that I had a chance to do something with my life. To do some good. To honor everyone who had lost their lives, instead of letting survivor’s guilt take over my life. I just brushed it off as an attempt to make me feel guilty about leaving my shipmates in a time like that. But I’ll never forget the look on her face. That’s when I knew I had made a mistake. She didn’t yell at me, she didn’t say I was wrong by leaving. But that look she gave me, I will remember for the rest of my life. Like… I don’t know how to describe it. Like endless disappointment...”

“Yes, she had a notorious way of looking at people. She could make a Klingons sink into the floor, just by looking at them. I heard about that that. Never met her myself, though. Unfortunately... – I take it you didn’t resign then?”

“No, I didn’t. I transferred to command track instead. After three years of service aboard the Aventine, she recommended me for the captaincy of the Hood.”

“So you’re trying to help him because you went through something similar? No offense captain, noble as it is, but you don’t owe this man anything. The moment Ezri Dax died, the slate turned blank again. Its Trill tradition.”

“Yes, you’re absolutely right. I don’t owe Perjon anything. I owe it to Ezri.”

“Captain, you know that I consider you a man of great integrity and honor. But if you are trying to repay a debt by bringing an unstable man aboard to serve as you XO, with all due respect, that’s not honorable, that just plain stupid. And as your XO, albeit merely temporary, I must object. There must be someone else.”

“Like you?” Valon shot back.

Donovan shook his head. “The thought had crossed my mind, but there is no chance Starfleet command is going to permit that. Not after Melcor IV. I’m not regretting anything, scrapping the mission was the right thing to do. I don’t mind covert ops but when civilians are in the line of fire…”

“Yes, I heard all that already, Lieutenant. And just to clarify, I did try, and I was stonewalled.”

“So you will reconsider Commander Dax?” Donovan asked. Sounding almost like he was afraid of the answer.

“No. I will not. -- That is all. Contact me if and when he’s aboard. Dismissed.” Valon said flatly. Since the usual permission of free speech had obviously been revoked. Donovan left the ready room.

This can pretty much go everywhere after the pilot. Good enough back story on Valon? Thought's?
So USS Trafalgar then. I'm thinking cruiser. Sovereign? Galaxy? Or something else?
 
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Well, something big...maybe Sovereign, sure. I like Valon, by the way. And the whole "speaking for Ezri" thing is cool with me, kind of like when Ezri told Julian Jadzia would have chosen him, but even more poignant. Great idea. :)
Did I mention how much I like Valon? :)
 
^ I like it. Plenty of emotion. I like that in a story. Too much pew pew nowadays. And i love the ghost whisperer angle.

Oh, and Rush. We're so on the same wavelength :-) About the memory thing.

USS Trafalgar

Captain's ready room, Deck 1



The door chime rang, jolting Captain Valon from his thoughts. “Come.” He called out as Lieutenant Donovan stepped in. The engineering noncom turned acting XO remained at attention, something that Valon hated. He made a swooshing gesture for him to loosen up.

“You sent for me, sir?” Donovan asked. Complying with what he considered permission to stand at ease.

“Yes, I did. How’s the resupply going? We need to be in orbit of Cardassia Prime in 14 hours. We’re being sent out again. Once we drop off the parts for the DaVinci, we’ll be heading out to the border. And I don’t want hear it, Lieutenant. I know precisely how much you despise border patrol.”

“Aye sir.” Donovan smiled. “If I may ask, sir. – How’s the hunt going?”

“Hunt? – Oh, you mean Dax. I found him in holding cell. He wasn’t very… How should I put it? Optimistic about returning to Starfleet.”

Donovan looked quizzical. “Returning, sir? I wasn’t aware that he left in the first place. – Ah, you didn’t tell him about the status of his resignation, did you? Or the arrest warrant for that matter.”

“No. I didn’t want to threaten him. If he reconsiders, he’ll be here in…” He looked at his computer. “six hours. If not, he’s not the man I’m looking for and don’t want him as my XO anyway. So no harm done. Starfleet security can take him on the desertion charge if they want to.”

“So how was he? Should I worry if he’s going to bash my head in if he has a bad day? With all due respect, sir. He doesn’t seem so stable.” Donovan pointed out.

Valon shook his head. “I'm not saying he's the model officer. Not after the Ballona, at least. But if he’s half the officer Ezri was, I need him.” He said. “I don’t know if he was just beaten and hung-over or plain indifferent, but he didn’t recognize me. I just hope there still some Dax in him after everything he’s been through.”

Donavan noticed the sad look on Valon’s face. “You miss her, don’t you?”

“Yes, I do. Very much. I wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for Ezri. The Borg destroyed Shi’Kahr, and there was nothing I could do. I thought my life was over. Quite frankly, I wanted to die. Everyone I ever cared about was dead. Ezri Dax taught me to live again. You know, I handed in my resignation three times. She denied every single one. When I sent her my fourth, she called me into her ready room. She took the padd and approved it. Just like that, without a word. Then, when I turned to leave she stopped me. She said that I had a chance to do something with my life. To do some good. To honor everyone who had lost their lives, instead of letting survivor’s guilt take over my life. I just brushed it off as an attempt to make me feel guilty about leaving my shipmates in a time like that. But I’ll never forget the look on her face. That’s when I knew I had made a mistake. She didn’t yell at me, she didn’t say I was wrong by leaving. But that look she gave me, I will remember for the rest of my life. Like… I don’t know how to describe it. Like endless disappointment...”

“Yes, she had a notorious way of looking at people. She could make a Klingons sink into the floor, just by looking at them. I heard about that that. Never met her myself, though. Unfortunately... – I take it you didn’t resign then?”

“No, I didn’t. I transferred to command track instead. After three years of service aboard the Aventine, she recommended me for the captaincy of the Hood.”

“So you’re trying to help him because you went through something similar? No offense captain, noble as it is, but you don’t owe this man anything. The moment Ezri Dax died, the slate turned blank again. Its Trill tradition.”

“Yes, you’re absolutely right. I don’t owe Perjon anything. I owe it to Ezri.”

“Captain, you know that I consider you a man of great integrity and honor. But if you are trying to repay a debt by bringing an unstable man aboard to serve as you XO, with all due respect, that’s not honorable, that just plain stupid. And as your XO, albeit merely temporary, I must object. There must be someone else.”

“Like you?” Valon shot back.

Donovan shook his head. “The thought had crossed my mind, but there is no chance Starfleet command is going to permit that. Not after Melcor IV. I’m not regretting anything, scrapping the mission was the right thing to do. I don’t mind covert ops but when civilians are in the line of fire…”

“Yes, I heard all that already, Lieutenant. And just to clarify, I did try, and I was stonewalled.”

“So you will reconsider Commander Dax?” Donovan asked. Sounding almost like he was afraid of the answer.

“No. I will not. -- That is all. Contact me if and when he’s aboard. Dismissed.” Valon said flatly. Since the usual permission of free speech had obviously been revoked. Donovan left the ready room.

This can pretty much go everywhere after the pilot. Good enough back story on Valon? Thought's?
So USS Trafalgar then. I'm thinking cruiser. Sovereign? Galaxy? Or something else?

Pretty good! Great second scene.

Okay...now, I recommend that, when your characters are giving a bit of a speech (such as Valon's reflections of Ezri's mentorship and friendship), you add some action to the paragraph. I would briefly put "breaks" in the dialogue to have the character do things, in order to put some "punch" into the dialogue.

A possible example (feel free to disregard these "thoughts"--you know Valon more than I do. Still...I'd add some actions and reactions on his part):

Valon paused for a moment, and nodded. “Yes...I do. Very much." He looked off, the face of an old, dear friend filling his mind. When he spoke, it wasn't to Donovan, as much as to himself.

"I wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for Ezri. The Borg destroyed Shi’Kahr...and there was nothing I could do. I thought my life was over. Quite frankly--I wanted to die. Everyone I ever cared about was dead. Ezri Dax...she taught me to live again."

He sighed. "You know...I handed in my resignation three times. She denied every single one. When I sent her my fourth, she called me into her ready room. She took the padd and approved it. Just like that, without a word. Then, when I turned to leave she stopped me. She said that I had a chance to do something with my life. To do some good. To honor everyone who had lost their lives, instead of letting survivor’s guilt take over my life."

He shrugged. "I just brushed it off as an attempt to make me feel guilty about leaving my shipmates in a time like that. But...I’ll never forget the look on her face. That’s when I knew I had made a mistake. She didn’t yell at me, she didn’t say I was wrong by leaving. But that look she gave me, I will remember for the rest of my life. Like… I don’t know how to describe it. Like endless disappointment...”

I'd put some "action" into Donovan's speeches in a similar fashion. :)
 
^I mostly agree, El Rushbo, but it depends what feel you're going for sometimes. Good practice to usually do it that way, though. :)
Ares, is it weird that in my head I've characterized Valon at least as much as I have Perjon and already given him a bit more of a backstory in my head and made up social connections and friends for him? Even though I've only read a tiny bit of him? Not gonna mention any of my ideas as I don't want to step on your toes but I like the guy a lot. :) I can't help doing that sometimes.
 
^We're all throwing ideas around, mate. You're part of this. You started this whole dang thing! :lol:

By all means, wrap'em in a spoiler tag, and let's see them! :techman:
 
Pretty good! Great second scene.

Okay...now, I recommend that, when your characters are giving a bit of a speech (such as Valon's reflections of Ezri's mentorship and friendship), you add some action to the paragraph. I would briefly put "breaks" in the dialogue to have the character do things, in order to put some "punch" into the dialogue.

A possible example (feel free to disregard these "thoughts"--you know Valon more than I do. Still...I'd add some actions and reactions on his part):

Valon paused for a moment, and nodded. “Yes...I do. Very much." He looked off, the face of an old, dear friend filling his mind. When he spoke, it wasn't to Donovan, as much as to himself.

"I wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for Ezri. The Borg destroyed Shi’Kahr...and there was nothing I could do. I thought my life was over. Quite frankly--I wanted to die. Everyone I ever cared about was dead. Ezri Dax...she taught me to live again."

He sighed. "You know...I handed in my resignation three times. She denied every single one. When I sent her my fourth, she called me into her ready room. She took the padd and approved it. Just like that, without a word. Then, when I turned to leave she stopped me. She said that I had a chance to do something with my life. To do some good. To honor everyone who had lost their lives, instead of letting survivor’s guilt take over my life."

He shrugged. "I just brushed it off as an attempt to make me feel guilty about leaving my shipmates in a time like that. But...I’ll never forget the look on her face. That’s when I knew I had made a mistake. She didn’t yell at me, she didn’t say I was wrong by leaving. But that look she gave me, I will remember for the rest of my life. Like… I don’t know how to describe it. Like endless disappointment...”

I'd put some "action" into Donovan's speeches in a similar fashion. :)

Aight, I'll go through it again. And I've added your part. Will post a updated version later. Truth is, I usually do this type of thing, although not on your level. But I rushed it this time so i could post before i went to bed.

^I mostly agree, El Rushbo, but it depends what feel you're going for sometimes. Good practice to usually do it that way, though. :)
Ares, is it weird that in my head I've characterized Valon at least as much as I have Perjon and already given him a bit more of a backstory in my head and made up social connections and friends for him? Even though I've only read a tiny bit of him? Not gonna mention any of my ideas as I don't want to step on your toes but I like the guy a lot. :) I can't help doing that sometimes.

Listen, this is cooperative writing. The characters, places are just as yours and El Rushbo's as mine. I was the one who posted it, yes. But it doesnt chage a thing. You're not stepping on anyone's toes here. Go ahead and do your own angle on Valon and/or the others. If our ideas contradict each other, we'll work it out by compromising. That's the entire point.

^We're all throwing ideas around, mate. You're part of this. You started this whole dang thing! :lol:

By all means, wrap'em in a spoiler tag, and let's see them! :techman:

Exactly. Now get cracking Tiberius. :techman:
 
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Alright, if you insist...here's my thoughts.

At one time, Valon was as repressed and logical as any Vulcan. He re-examined his philosophy when an insane Vulcan murdered seven people including Valon’s mother and later used ‘logic’ to explain his heinous crime. Valon could not understand why logic was the best choice for a Vulcan if it could be used in such a way. Adding to his misgivings was the fact that his father denied feeling any emotion over his loss though he and Valon both knew that was not true. Valon began to view ‘logic’ as a way to excuse one’s faults and actions and rejected ‘ordinary’ Vulcan values, seeing them as hypocritical. He now attempts to balance logic and emotion but feels emotion is the true gauge of one’s goodness.
Valon’s command style is not rigid and rather lax at times when it comes to protocol but is still very structured and orderly. He is a thinker and a diplomat but still not one to be crossed. His keen Vulcan intellect means he has no problem dealing with the politics involved with a command position or with the upper echelons of Starfleet. He’s a chessmaster.
Valon is married to Lt. Kelshayar Ratagar, a Boslic engineer serving on his ship. She’s someone he can turn to at all times and rely on for advice when even his towering intellect doesn’t know what to do.
 
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I like it!

However...are Captains allowed to marry Lieutenants...? TOS, I believe, seemed to imply restrictions to this effect....

(I dunno. I love the idea of the marriage--and hey, if the Boslic freighter captain friend of Quark's is any indication...:cool:)
 
I love it Tiberius. Almost what i had in mind. Except my idea was that he rejected logic after the Borg invasion (The attack on Vulcan.) Otherwise its pretty much the same, aside from his wife that is. Hadn't thought about that. I imagined a man who was married to his ship. but i like the marrige thing anyway. :techman:

Lets say that "The New Dax" is in a post destiny timeline. I dont think SFC give a damn in a time like that. They cant rebulild the federation in a few years and they need everyone. So i would assume that regulation gets a bit lax when it comes to the greater good.

Besides rank has nothing to do with it. The problem is, if a family member serves aboard your ship, a conflict of interest is created. (worf and jadzia for example) And that's what they want to avoid. Not marriage itself.

You guys said that both Julian and Ezri die, but their daughter(confirmed?) survives. What if that's not the case? Let's assume that there was foul play involved in the space battle and SFI covered it up. Nobody but Dax, (who has supressed Ezri's memories) knows that the child is in fact, alive.

Now, I was toying with a continuation and remembered something... We have no crew!
CO: Capt. Valon (Vulcan)
XO: Lt.Cmdr / Cmdr Perjon Dax (Trill)
Ops: Lt. (first name) Donovan (Human, Brit perhaps?)
Chief engineer: Lt. Kelshayar Ratagar (Boslic)
Sciences: ?
Tactical: ?
Chief of security: ?

EDIT: Trouble on the homefront... I was going to post something tonight but its gonna be delayed. Somehow (no idea how) a virus managed to infect my network. Including the SH mainframe. Everything is offline. Cant even turn the goddamn lights on. Writing this on a powerbook g3 since its the only computer that survived. I'm gonna try to restore from the system backups in a few min. But I'm pretty much crippled anyway. Back to Dead Tree Format, i guess.
 
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I love it Tiberius. Almost what i had in mind. Except my idea was that he rejected logic after the Borg invasion (The attack on Vulcan.) Otherwise its pretty much the same, aside from his wife that is. Hadn't thought about that. I imagined a man who was married to his ship. but i like the marrige thing anyway. :techman:

Lets say that "The New Dax" is in a post destiny timeline. I dont think SFC give a damn in a time like that. They cant rebulild the federation in a few years and they need everyone. So i would assume that regulation gets a bit lax when it comes to the greater good.

Besides rank has nothing to do with it. The problem is, if a family member serves aboard your ship, a conflict of interest is created. (worf and jadzia for example) And that's what they want to avoid. Not marriage itself.

Ah. I see. Thanks! :)

You guys said that both Julian and Ezri die, but their daughter(confirmed?) survives. What if that's not the case? Let's assume that there was foul play involved in the space battle and SFI covered it up. Nobody but Dax, (who has supressed Ezri's memories) knows that the child is in fact, alive.

Woah. Okay...I think that might be a bit too much story. It's a great idea, but...too much complexity in one aspect of the storyline can resulot in information overload. ;)

Now, I was toying with a continuation and remembered something... We have no crew!
CO: Capt. Valon (Vulcan)
XO: Lt.Cmdr / Cmdr Perjon Dax (Trill)
Ops: Lt. (first name) Donovan (Human, Brit perhaps?)
Chief engineer: Lt. Kelshayar Ratagar (Boslic)
Sciences: ?
Tactical: ?
Chief of security: ?

Well...I think, as of the TNG era, tactical and security are in the same department.

Also...we'll need a CMO, too. :)

EDIT: Trouble on the homefront... I was going to post something tonight but its gonna be delayed. Somehow (no idea how) a virus managed to infect my network. Including the SH mainframe. Everything is offline. Cant even turn the goddamn lights on. Writing this on a powerbook g3 since its the only computer that survived. I'm gonna try to restore from the system backups in a few min. But I'm pretty much crippled anyway. Back to Dead Tree Format, i guess.

Ouch. I know completely how that feels.

When it's all done, I strongly recommend a good ani-virus secutiy program. I use Norton, but McAffee and AVG are also pretty good.

(Don't even THINK of downloading an "online" one, BTW. They tend to be cruel slimballs who dress viruses in sheep's clothing.

Especially beware the ones that introduce themselves with, "YOUR COMPUTER HAS A VIRUS! DOWNLOAD OUR SYSTEM NOW BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!"

I guarantee you...I't's A FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE! The real ones are the ones you physically go to the store and buy.)
 
Woah. Okay...I think that might be a bit too much story. It's a great idea, but...too much complexity in one aspect of the storyline can resulot in information overload. ;)
point taken.

Well...I think, as of the TNG era, tactical and security are in the same department.

Also...we'll need a CMO, too. :)
right... ideas? i'm fresh out for the moment.


Ouch. I know completely how that feels.

When it's all done, I strongly recommend a good ani-virus secutiy program. I use Norton, but McAffee and AVG are also pretty good.

(Don't even THINK of downloading an "online" one, BTW. They tend to be cruel slimballs who dress viruses in sheep's clothing.

Especially beware the ones that introduce themselves with, "YOUR COMPUTER HAS A VIRUS! DOWNLOAD OUR SYSTEM NOW BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!"

I guarantee you...I't's A FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE! The real ones are the ones you physically go to the store and buy.)
yes, i know. i've been studying computer security for two years now. (and still.. this shit happens...) my teacher is one of the seven people who has cracked the SÄPO mainframe. :techman:

i managed to trace the logs. it was my pda that screwed with the antivirus when i was running remote desktop on it.
dunno how, or why, but it shut off the AV. the virus spread across my network. two laptops, my smarthome mainframe, server, gaming rig, htpc and my netbook.

and i'm going over to Linux on my smarthome system to avoid further brain hemorrhaging on my part. windows doesn't cut it and i'm a rookie in UNIX.

btw. i got the lights working again. :techman: i dont have to sit in the darkness anymore. some things should be left to old fashioned power switches...
 
Glad you guys like my ideas. As far as conflict of interest goes, it's an opportunity for interesting writing. (And it's happened in canon, like Riker and Troi.) I'm not sure I want her to be the Chief Engineer though...to me that would open up even more conflicts of interest. But if you guys want it that way it's fine by me.

As for the child, I was thinking she should be a member of the crew or show up later. Dax overhears someone say either "Lieutenant/Ensign/Crewman Tigan" or "Lieutenant/Ensign/Crewman Bashir" depending on how we want the naming of the child to work...so Dax realises it's 'his' daughter and has a mild nervous breakdown and eventually that leads up to the Rite of Emergence and Ezri's personality manifesting itself. What do you think?

I was also thinking about Valon's relationship with Dax...eventually a sort of love/hate sibling friendship will emerge, they seemingly can't stand one another but can't stand not being around each other either. And they'll have a sort of Good Cop Bad Cop thing for their enemies-of-the-moment...not sure who will be Good and who will be Bad though.

Another idea that occurred to me is that Galrisan (the Orion who beat Dax up) has something to do with the next mission or maybe offers Dax a job...or both. What do you think?
 
Glad you guys like my ideas. As far as conflict of interest goes, it's an opportunity for interesting writing. (And it's happened in canon, like Riker and Troi.) I'm not sure I want her to be the Chief Engineer though...to me that would open up even more conflicts of interest. But if you guys want it that way it's fine by me.
it was merely an idea, she doesn't have to be CE. but i drew the conclusion since you said she was an engineer.
As for the child, I was thinking she should be a member of the crew or show up later. Dax overhears someone say either "Lieutenant/Ensign/Crewman Tigan" or "Lieutenant/Ensign/Crewman Bashir" depending on how we want the naming of the child to work...so Dax realises it's 'his' daughter and has a mild nervous breakdown and eventually that leads up to the Rite of Emergence and Ezri's personality manifesting itself. What do you think?
hmm... interesting. i was thinking sooner than an adult mini-ezri. but is suppose it can be done.

what about this? Ezri dies in lets say 2393. Perjon dax gets the symbiont the same week. the uss ballona is destroyed six months later. he resigns and Valon finds him on DS9 a year later. that would make the child, give or take, a year and a half.

I was also thinking about Valon's relationship with Dax...eventually a sort of love/hate sibling friendship will emerge, they seemingly can't stand one another but can't stand not being around each other either. And they'll have a sort of Good Cop Bad Cop thing for their enemies-of-the-moment...not sure who will be Good and who will be Bad though.
great idea! Dax is the bad cop. definitely! :)

Another idea that occurred to me is that Galrisan (the Orion who beat Dax up) has something to do with the next mission or maybe offers Dax a job...or both. What do you think?
interesting. should cause quite a bit of friction if the bad-guy Dax resurfaces somewhere along the lines.

OFT: dear god this mac is slow... ARGH! *tosses pismo out the window, goes out to get it, cleans off the dust and sand. finally turns it back on.*

EDIT: Guys, there's something i'd like. to add the name Andrew Davis somewhere. doesn't have to be an officer, can be a civvie. its kind of a personal request. just checked my calendar and he popped into my head.
 
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I kinda want Ezri's daughter to be old enough to interact capably with Perjon--and, by extention, Ezri.

Perhaps...late teen? Young adult?

Perhpas the USS Ballona's destruction was a few years later...or not...but at any rate, I might have Perjon's "rogue" status as more than a year....

I dunno. I just want to have the daughter (we need to find a name for her--quick!) talk to him intelligently (and her mother).

I guess I'm kinda with Tiberius on this one....
 
very well, then. late teens/young adult it is.
hmm.... name... i used Sulhir (Sully) in my fanfic. or do we need something more human? whaddya' think?

btw i added Andrew Davis as an officer. hope you guys dont object. i'll post my idea when i get to school.
 
Late teens sounds good to me...say she's 7 when Ezri and Julian are killed, Perjon has Dax for 7 more years then the Ballona gets destroyed, then Perjon goes off the grid for 5 years making Sulhir Bashir (or would it be Sulhir Tigan?) 19 yrs old, old enough at least to be a Starfleet Cadet. I like Sulhir, how about you, Rushbo? You have any ideas?

One more thought, whatever mission Valon's been given I think it should be relatively simple so we accomplish more with characterization than if we were weighed down and wrapped up with a convoluted plot...although convoluted can be fun.
 
Late teens sounds good to me...say she's 7 when Ezri and Julian are killed, Perjon has Dax for 7 more years then the Ballona gets destroyed, then Perjon goes off the grid for 5 years making Sulhir Bashir (or would it be Sulhir Tigan?) 19 yrs old, old enough at least to be a Starfleet Cadet. I like Sulhir, how about you, Rushbo? You have any ideas?

One more thought, whatever mission Valon's been given I think it should be relatively simple so we accomplish more with characterization than if we were weighed down and wrapped up with a plot...although convoluted can be fun.

actually i was thinking something more along the lines of what Rushbo wrote. something similar to the ST09 Kelvin scene. so ezri an julian die on the same day the kid is born.

and yes, before we do anything... convuluted... we need to do a good characterization on them. then we can... convulate... all we want. :lol:

what the hell does that even mean? ten years of studying english i've never come across that word... :brickwall:
 
Late teens sounds good to me...say she's 7 when Ezri and Julian are killed, Perjon has Dax for 7 more years then the Ballona gets destroyed, then Perjon goes off the grid for 5 years making Sulhir Bashir (or would it be Sulhir Tigan?) 19 yrs old, old enough at least to be a Starfleet Cadet. I like Sulhir, how about you, Rushbo? You have any ideas?

One more thought, whatever mission Valon's been given I think it should be relatively simple so we accomplish more with characterization than if we were weighed down and wrapped up with a plot...although convoluted can be fun.

actually i was thinking something more along the lines of what Rushbo wrote. something similar to the ST09 Kelvin scene. so ezri an julian die on the same day the kid is born.

Yeah. It's best if she's born when they die. It's an important element to have
Ezri never having known her daughter.

and yes, before we do anything... convuluted... we need to do a good characterization on them. then we can... convulate... all we want. :lol:

what the hell does that even mean? ten years of studying english i've never come across that word... :brickwall:

Neither have I. "Convulate", as far as I know, is not a word.

"Convoluted" means something along the lines of "rediculously complex".

Frankly...I'm hoping we can avoid that. ;)
 
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