I find your lack of faith disturbing.
The new Concordance (again) and ST: Of Gods and Men
- Thread starter F. King Daniel
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Yeah, sometimes it really doesn't need to be restated.
And, sometimes it does.
I do, however, find the concept of fan publishing of something that has no inclusion of fan works to be quite intriguing.
So did my alternate ending of "Generations", which saved Kirk, the Enterprise-D, Robert and Rene Picard, negated Worf's idiotic "promotion ceremony" (thus avoiding Data's toying with the emotion chip), and even gave Soran a happy ending, but the odds of that showing up anywhere, even as a footnote, are slim to none.
Yeah, sometimes it really doesn't need to be restated.
And, sometimes it does.
I do, however, find the concept of fan publishing of something that has no inclusion of fan works to be quite intriguing.
For those who came in late, this isn't exactly an unlicensed fan publication. Bjo has full publication rights to this baby (as evidence by the two professionally published editions that came out in '76 and '95). In order for all parties to be happy, and to keep the lawyers in their holsters, the purview of this work covers TOS, TAS, and other connected productions, which means the first seven, maybe eight, movies (depending on Bjo's ruling on Zefrem Cochrane), and those later series episodes that touch on those aforementioned areas (I'm still wondering how TNG's "Rightful Heir" got left out of the last edition).
The whole thing started with Dorothy Jones taking copious notes on Star Trek back in '68 and Bjo remarking that they should be organized into some sort of book. Fanfic was never a part of the equation.
You know what? I read something like that once. Did you write that? Do you have a link?
And there you have almost the definition of fan publishing.
Yeah, sometimes it really doesn't need to be restated.
And, sometimes it does.
I do, however, find the concept of fan publishing of something that has no inclusion of fan works to be quite intriguing.
For those who came in late, this isn't exactly an unlicensed fan publication. Bjo has full publication rights to this baby (as evidence by the two professionally published editions that came out in '76 and '95)... The whole thing started with Dorothy Jones taking copious notes on Star Trek back in '68 and Bjo remarking that they should be organized into some sort of book. Fanfic was never a part of the equation.
And in the 70s and even the 90s it was a useful one of a kind reference work. But today, with on-line Trek references such as Memory Alpha, I don't really see how a new print edition is anything more than a nostalgia item.
And with handheld devices, you can even read Memory Alpha while on the can.
I kind of agree; if Pocket can't make the economics work for reference books, I fail to see how a small press can make them work. It'd be like throwing money down a hole.
Well, y'see, nowadays they have this thing called "print on demand", so there's not the issue of producing a mountain of books in the hope that they'll sell.
And, again, nobody's really settled on a final format yet; only that a new print version is a possible option. An online and/or CD version is entirely possible, even likely.
For the time being, I'm still working on the text files. So far, I've managed to separate out the synopses and the lexicon stuff and am snipping out the more bizzare formatting oddities and getting it all into a more usable form. Once that's done, I'll be going back over it all, comparing it to the previous printed versions to bring everything in line, and then working in all the updates.
And somewhere in there, dealing with all the artwork (which is a big draw for the Concordance, and sets it apart from a simple reference work).
Y'know, this could be a nifty add-on for the new iPad. Hopefully, we'll be done by the time it hits the market.
And, again, nobody's really settled on a final format yet; only that a new print version is a possible option. An online and/or CD version is entirely possible, even likely.
For the time being, I'm still working on the text files. So far, I've managed to separate out the synopses and the lexicon stuff and am snipping out the more bizzare formatting oddities and getting it all into a more usable form. Once that's done, I'll be going back over it all, comparing it to the previous printed versions to bring everything in line, and then working in all the updates.
And somewhere in there, dealing with all the artwork (which is a big draw for the Concordance, and sets it apart from a simple reference work).
Y'know, this could be a nifty add-on for the new iPad. Hopefully, we'll be done by the time it hits the market.
I don't have a copy on hand at the moment (I might have it on an old hard drive, but no way to access it).
When I'm less exhausted (spent most of day involved in auto repairs/primal scream therapy), I'll make an attempt at rewriting it, and we'll see if it rings any bells.
I imagine that the book's primary audience wants it as exactly that - a nostalgia item. Lots of money to be made in the nostalgia game.
I imagine that the book's primary audience wants it as exactly that - a nostalgia item. Lots of money to be made in the nostalgia game.
You know, nostalgia just isn't what it used to be...
I imagine that the book's primary audience wants it as exactly that - a nostalgia item. Lots of money to be made in the nostalgia game.
You know, nostalgia just isn't what it used to be...
I dunno - older people are an underserved demographic in mass entertainment and we have a lot of disposable income. That's one reason that various collectible companies can do so well with overpriced high-end props and toys - which notably are disproportionately based on older versions of Trek like TOS - which sell well to the middle-class middle-aged fans. So while a new version of the concordance isn't likely to sell many copies to younger people who rely upon easily-accessible web content for this kind of thing, if it's done nicely us geezers may snap it up.
It’s crazy shit like that that’s part of the charm!
Farragut has the worst acting and directing of any fan-film I have ever seen, without exception. The CG, audio and editing are very good.
To say Farragut’s better than OGAM just…hurts my head…
Anyway - I give up. I still love the film whether it’s in any fandom reference book or not.
SToGaM rules!!! (but you probably shouldn’t buy the DVD)
OGAM's strength is certainly in it's acting, and I think the direction is pretty interesting. But otherwise, I'm sorry but it's a mess, with the script being by far the weakest link. I'm sure it appeals to the folks who think the Shatnerverse novels are literary masterpieces, but I'm afraid I'm not one of them. I admire the work that went into it, and I admire certain aspects from a technical perspective, but that's as far as it goes.
Sorry, but I'll take Farragut (which, by the way, has stronger actors than you suggest who continue to grow and learn) over OGAM any day. And as Dennis has already pointed out, World Enough and Time is light years ahead of OGAM.
None of which is, I suppose, terribly germane to the topic at hand.
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Maybe some industrious soul can cook up a concordance that deals with fan films...
Well, there ya go.
I'm still trying to understand why anyone would want to buy an updated Concordance in the first place
Because it's a nice, informative book with lots of pretty pictures drawn by fans?