Cool. That sounds like the kind of Hulk I think the live-action movie needs. Far more frightening and funny to boot.
The New Avengers Cartoon Was Just On!
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Cool. That sounds like the kind of Hulk I think the live-action movie needs. Far more frightening and funny to boot.
Actually, after battling The Grim Reaper and Baron Strucker in todays micro-ep, Nick Fury: Agent of S.H.E.I.L.D., Fury does indeed have gray in his hair.
Wait, is that canon?
No new micro-ep today? Maybe we'll get two tomorrow? 
No new micro-ep today? Maybe we'll get two tomorrow?
It looks like tjhe Marvel site isn't the primary source for these. They're adding one per day here (link)
^Thanks! 
Heh. There was a character in today's episode, that although he was never identified by name, seemed to me to be an obvious cameo by Logan/Wolverine.
The ep is set primarily in WWII, but instead of Nazis and Hitler taking over Europe, they use Hydra and the Red Skull instead.
The ep is set primarily in WWII, but instead of Nazis and Hitler taking over Europe, they use Hydra and the Red Skull instead.
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The Red Skull was a Nazi, and so was HYDRA's founder Baron von Strucker. So more just a shift of emphasis, really.
I'm inclined to agree.
"I need recon"
"I'm working on it bub."
Then about the 4:15 mark or so the character jumping out of the water looks so very much like Logan. That image + the 'bub' comment, yeah Logan.
I realize that, I just thought it was an interesting creative choice. My friend's wife was raised in East Germany and lived there when the wall came down. She thinks it's because there might be issues with airing the show for the kiddies in Germany if they were to prominently display the swastika.
I take it back. The character was identified by name, and as the future Wolverine. The first time I watched it, I thought the sergeant's line was "Howlers, I need recon". But upon a second viewing, I realized that what he actually said was "Howlett, I need recon".
For those who don't know, Wolverine was born "James Howlett". He took on the name "Logan" after he lost his memory.
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For some reason, US cartoons are very evasive about Nazis. When Justice League did its 3-part WWII time-travel epic, they didn't show any swastikas or mention Nazis by name. Hitler (who had been usurped and placed in cryogenic stasis by Vandal Savage) was briefly glimpsed, but not named, I think. Similarly, years earlier, when Gargoyles went back to WWII London, they mentioned fighting the "Germans" but not the Nazis, and the enemy planes didn't have Nazi insignias.
I find that rather disturbing, actually; what could possibly be objectionable about acknowledging that the Nazis existed and did very evil things? Whatever happened to "never forget," making sure that future generations knew about this evil and how important it was to fight it? What could the reasoning possibly be behind censoring mentions of the Nazis?
I thought he said 'Howlers' also, it was a quick segment. Cool, set up for Wolverine later. They of course had to find a way to include their other main Marvel character into the Avengers somehow.
Well, Wolverine is an Avenger...
Actually, if the show were to get, say, three seasons, I wouldn't mind Captain America and Iron Man putting together a team of "New Avengers" and seeing Wolvie, Luke Cage, Spider-Man and Spider-Woman doing some "street level" Avenging.
Hell, for that matter, I'd love to see the Young Avengers, but think of all of the back-story they'd have to establish. The black Captain America,The Scarlet Witch's teenaged twins, Captain Mar-Vell and Scott Lang. Actually, I'd rather see YA done as a separate project, say a dvd movie.
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Context might be important, I've seen guys with tattoos of the Cobra or Decepticon symbols. If you showed Swastikas in the same way without the full history behind that would kids understand the difference? It kind of trivializes it all to those who haven't learned the reality yet.
At the same time why give exposure to the Nazi movement? Maybe it's better to leave it as part of history rather than perpetuate it. I'm sure the neo-Hydra movement isn't much of a problem in real life.
EDIT: Actually, it just hit me. Imagine in the crazy paranoid state everyone is in if a 7-year-old went to school and was makings doodles of guys with swastikas. They'd bring in protective services, the cops, the news and everything else they could find.
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I'm glad the team is composed of the real Avengers like Thor, Iron Man, Captain America, and the Hulk. That last Avengers cartoon really sucked. The Ant man was the leader and we got Hawkeye, Wasp, and the tiger lady with really bad art and animation.
Just catching up on some of them "Enter the Whirlwind" has a cab driver reading a paper. The headline "Vigilante 'Punishes' again" and that text is written overtop a b/w skull. Nice!!
I wonder if these little nods to other heroes will lead to them appearing in future episodes
It's sort of like how "Justice League" began. You start with the core then add other members.
Obviously Spider-man should show up. The new Spider-man show is suppose to be like "Brave and the bold" with Spidey teaming up with other heroes.
It's sort of like how "Justice League" began. You start with the core then add other members.
Obviously Spider-man should show up. The new Spider-man show is suppose to be like "Brave and the bold" with Spidey teaming up with other heroes.
Nothing could be further from the truth. As any Holocaust survivor or family member thereof could tell you, it's imperative that we never forget what the Nazis did, because if we forget, it will happen again. Covering it up, sweeping it under the rug, is the preference of Holocaust deniers.
Granted, maybe a fantasy-adventure cartoon isn't a serious enough setting and could be seen as trivializing the Nazis. But rewriting history to pretend the Nazis didn't even exist just strikes me as treading some very dangerous ground. It's a case of censors going too far and possibly doing more harm than good.
^^ I didn't say cover it up or forget it but leave it as part of history.
EDIT: I mean, it's "history" in the cartoon but aahhhh, never mind.....
EDIT2: I hadn't actually watched those micro-eps but watching them now I have to agree the mixing of the Allies and D-Day with ... Hydra is rather odd.
EDIT: I mean, it's "history" in the cartoon but aahhhh, never mind.....
EDIT2: I hadn't actually watched those micro-eps but watching them now I have to agree the mixing of the Allies and D-Day with ... Hydra is rather odd.
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