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The new 3G iPhone announced

Look at Apple Australia's website looks like there's going go be 2 ranges - the Iphone and Iphone Enterprise which will be able to talk directly to MS Exchange Server.

I just wish they'd stop tying them to bleeding phone companies. Australia at least will have the choice of two and you can get it on either a contract or prepaid but I'd still like to be able to by the thing outright with no strings attached.
 
So how long until Apple's contract with the lousy (at least in Florida and Alabama) AT&T expires and you can pick this phone up with another provider in the US?
 
Reading this on a Star Trek BBS is pretty damn funny. What font is the ship's registry supposed to be again?

Find a post of mine where I argue the toss over something so trivial and you'll have a point.

I'll decide when I have a point, thanks all the same. I don't give a damn whether you posted that or not, any more than I give a damn about your trolling or your blanket derision of Apple customers.
 
I'll decide when I have a point, thanks all the same.

No no, you really have to make one first.

I don't give a damn whether you posted that or not, any more than I give a damn about your trolling or your blanket derision of Apple customers.

Yes, your seething, bilesome nonchalance in this matter is quite evident.
 
It IS free on a contract. See O2's website for details. And wait till the third-party apps take off, that's what will make the iPhone.
I thought it was only with a £75 a month contract, or am I mistaken?

I *think* it's free on the top two contracts, but I could be wrong. It's certainly free on the £75 one, as you say.
I'm annoyed at paying £20pm for my contract, when if I'd have gone for a non-smartphone it would have been £15pm. £75 a month is just ridiculous.
 
I'll decide when I have a point, thanks all the same.

No no, you really have to make one first.

Sigh. I attributed the comment regarding registry fonts - an actual comment made here, as I'm sure you know - to, and I quote, "a Star Trek BBS" - NOT to YOU. This makes the point valid, despite your inability to understand that - the comment I attributed to a Trek BBS has been made on a Trek BBS. Sorry if I confused you.

Yes, your seething, bilesome nonchalance in this matter is quite evident.

That's funny, I attributed a similar set of words to your tedious trolling...


I'm annoyed at paying £20pm for my contract, when if I'd have gone for a non-smartphone it would have been £15pm. £75 a month is just ridiculous.

Yeah, it is. The phone is free on the top two contracts, not on the lower two. I don't do contracts anyway, but even if I did I wouldn't pay those prices for it. I'd rather get an iPod Touch - that does pretty much everything I'd want, via wi-fi - and keep my old PAYG phone.
 
So how long until Apple's contract with the lousy (at least in Florida and Alabama) AT&T expires and you can pick this phone up with another provider in the US?

Everything I've heard indicates AT&T's exclusivity lasts until 2010.
 
The new iPhone seems pretty cool, but Apple/AT&T are tricky. Everybody's like "ooh it's cheaper" but they cranked up the minimum plans, so that its actually more expensive.
 
My contract with 3 is up a year from now; by then O2 exclusivity will dry up, so maybe my next upgrade will be to the iPhone...
 
My contract with 3 is up a year from now; by then O2 exclusivity will dry up, so maybe my next upgrade will be to the iPhone...

I agree; as long as I can get a pay-as-you-go one, or get one to slot my Tesco Mobile SIM card into. I think O2's PAYG prices are going to be expensive.
 
My contract with 3 is up a year from now; by then O2 exclusivity will dry up, so maybe my next upgrade will be to the iPhone...

I agree; as long as I can get a pay-as-you-go one, or get one to slot my Tesco Mobile SIM card into. I think O2's PAYG prices are going to be expensive.

I'm paying £15/mo. with 3 now for 100 texts and 200min.; the cheapest O2 iPhone plan is complete rubbish by comparison -- free data? Who cares? I'm interested because of the combination of iPod and Phone that has a better UI than my Nokia 6288 slider, so it'll either be under my existing plan or PAYG. Otherwise my new 3G Nano will still be working I'm sure...
 
I'm paying £15/mo. with 3 now for 100 texts and 200min.; the cheapest O2 iPhone plan is complete rubbish by comparison -- free data? Who cares? I'm interested because of the combination of iPod and Phone that has a better UI than my Nokia 6288 slider, so it'll either be under my existing plan or PAYG. Otherwise my new 3G Nano will still be working I'm sure...

The problem I have is that I use the phone so minimally that I can't justify a contract - but I want an iPhone. :( I really need an iPod Touch as I'd make most use of the internet features over wi-fi, but then I have an 80Gb Classic too, and a Touch doesn't have the capacity.

What's a gadget lover to do? :rolleyes:
 
The data charge PER PHONE is kind of the killer on this deal. I wouldn't mind paying for the data plan on ONE iPhone, as it makes sense, gotta buy the same pda plan as blackberries, etc. Sucks that if my gf was to get one on my plan as well, it doubles the data plan costs, though. $60 a month for access to the data plan, before you pay for any voice minutes, is excessive. Maybe it never came up before, because it's probably rare for there to be multiple Blackberries on the same family plan, but with the popularity of the iPhone, they should have rethought that policy.

I mean, they're going to make money off of it, so maybe not, but if they had even swung it so that if you have 2, the 2nd data plan is half off or something, might have had more families going for more than one.

And if you're paying for "unlimited" data, why do you have to buy twice as much unlimited data if you have a 2nd phone? If you can use as much data as you want, shouldn't it work the same way if you access that data from 2 different devices? :p
 
I hear ya. But since its AT&T workig in concert with Apple it doesnt surprise me in the least. AT&T has too much internal baggage to offer really low priced plans like companies such as Alltel (now merging with Verizon) can.
 
Not saying it shocked me, just saying it's going to prevent me from buying one. I MIGHT have gotten it by myself, but since my gf will instantly want one as well once I get mine, there's no way I'm adding $60 a month to my bill, plus buying two phones at $299 each (16gb models). If the data plan was discounted if you had more than one iPhone on the bill, it would probably be cheap enough to go for it.

I was about to do it when it was the gen1 iphone at $20 a month, but wanted to wait for the new features. Now that they are here, they are great, but the data plans went up $10 a month, so it's a net LOSS over the life of the contract, even worse if you keep it more than 2 years...
 
Beyond3D has a nice writeup regarding the likely chipset candidates for the new iPhone:
  • Application processor by Apple: 65nm (vs 90nm), Higher-Clocked ARM11, PowerVR SGX 3D core (likely SGX 520) with OpenGL ES 2.0 support, PowerVR VXD (likely VXD 330 with plain VGA support; less likely VXD 370 with 1080p support). In-house System-on-Chip logic, music playback logic, etc.
  • 3G Baseband: Likely HSDPA from Infineon (as for the 2G-capable model) on 65nm; possibly a custom chip with no redundant multimedia functionality. Too early for 45nm given certification. Plausible alternatives include Icera, Qualcomm, Broadcom, and InterDigital, all of which are more likely to be the case if HSUPA is supported (because their solutions offer higher upload speeds). Qualcomm and Broadcom are much less likely if the latest leak from engadget implying Infineon RF is correct, but others still plausible.
  • 'Connectivity' Wireless: Bluetooth is very likely Bluecore6 from CSR (was Bluecore4); GPS from Broadcom is very plausible given their claimed power numbers are the lowest we could find, if the 3G does have GPS; WiFi is unlikely to receive a significant upgrade, likely still Marvell or CSR or Broadcom, as Atheros’ disruptive solution came too late.
  • Analogue: Wolfson’s audio chip design loss seems to be aimed at iPods, not iPhones, so it’s relatively likely to still be in the 3G-capable model and deliver the exact same sound quality as the original. If so, power management and touchscreen is unlikely to be integrated in a single chip.
  • Other things to watch for: OLED screen (significant battery life boost but no reliable indication it’ll be used however), whether the OpenGL ES 2.0 functionality is exposed on launch, and obviously potential software upgrades.
  • Costs: Nothing fundamental that would make the 3G iPhone significantly more expensive to manufacture than the 2G on first sight.
 
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