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The Myth of Internet Advertising

Gary7

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I just don't get it.

Well, I kind of do. Internet advertising. Ads pop up on a page, here and there, and again and again. When you're new at using a browser, your eyes go to those ads to see what they say, especially if it is animated or has video. But when you become adept at using a browser and have a directed purpose in using it, isn't an ad the last thing you want to waste your time on? You tune them out.

Honestly, there are VERY few times when I look at an ad... like when I'm thinking about the subject. Just now, my eyes briefly looked at the "JAWS" ads on the right and top on TBBS. I moved on, continuing to use the forum, and without looking I tried to recall what it was that the ad was for. The only thing I remembered was the red JAWS with the shark coming up in a sea of blue water. I'm assuming it was promoting the original movie. I guess it must have just come out on blu-ray. Ah yes, (looks over), it has. But I must say that for the most part, I *rarely* remember what an ad was for. I might remember a brief image that I saw, but the context is completely missing.

How effective is this form of advertising? For me, it's worthless. I have *never* bought anything by clicking through an ad. That's the LAST thing I want to do, is to be brought to some website that will try to load cookies into my browser and try to entice me into giving some information for weekly coupons that instead turns into a rash of endless spam.

Google makes a fortune on advertising. Why? Because ads are CHEAP for their clients. The cost per hit is mere pennies. But, add up all those hits for millions of users? The cost of advertising is spread nice and thin across the base, like an ethereal glaze. The participants don't pay much, but Google scrapes that glaze off to then find themselves with a nice pile of cash. And this is easy for Google to do. When you search, you're going to expect to see a list of possible websites and yes, some of them will be shifted in position due to Adword advertising. Plus, some search criteria sensitive ads will appear on the right side.

But what about when you're on Facebook? Who wants to see ads when you're just doing a little social networking? To me, that's even more reason to tune out ads. I simply refuse to look at them. I learn the "useful zone" page layouts of a website and stick to them, not letting my eyes drift outside them into the stinky swamp of ads.

And yet, advertising is precisely what Facebook was basing its valuation on. Seriously. The context is just wrong. With Google it makes sense. But on Facebook, the only thing I could see being effective is directed advertising. You like a product? Go to the maker's Facebook page and look at some details. You might find an on-line coupon there. THAT is how I see Facebook being used by companies. But running banner ads in and around your social networking content pages? People adapt. I really believe everyone will tune those out and not even look at them.

So, Facebook being worth $38/share seemed to be pure folly to me. Wishful thinking on the hopes and dreams of the investors. Well, I think that's quickly being dashed. Facebook just touched down to $20, nearly half its IPO price.
 
Facebook is actually the only place where the advertising has had any effect on me. It's non-intrusive and off to the side, and it uses your Facebook information to find ads that you might be interested in. It's not an annoying pop-up that I immediately feel the need to get rid of.
 
For me and the "product" I'm selling, it's definitely worth it.

I purchase ads on TV and Radio station sites to promote the fire information website I help administer. The site doesn't sell anything, but offers viewers the chance to sign up for updates on current wildfire information and links to other similar sites that serve New Mexico.

That said, when I make my ad buys, I use my own preferences when it comes to the kind of ads.. I HATE those screen-filling ads that pop up when you first arrive on the page.. It sucks that you have to hunt for the little "x" , which usually cleverly hidden..

The ads I've purchased have been VERY effective.
 
Yes, I have to admit that Facebook ads don't bother me too much. They're pretty unobtrusive. Occasionally, they are humorous - the singles dating sites for heterosexuals for instance (I'm gay - guess that targeting algorithm isn't quite up to snuff LOL). Here, the one that is really annoying me is the fundraising ad for the Romney campaign. If I move my cursor over it at all, it pops up and the audio starts. I just makes me hate him even more.
 
I rarely look at ads, and could probably count on one hand the number of times I've clicked on an ad. In over 10 years.

I just hate the intrusive pop-ups.
 
I never ever clicked on an ad. When it shows up in videos, I skip them, when they pop up, I click them away. Sometimes I also leave the site when the ads annoy me and go somewhere else. Same with television ads, I ignore them, switch channels, leave the room.

I wished those marketing geniuses would realize that. Ads are only annoying, they are not informative at all.
 
I've never once clicked on an online advert.

In fact, right now after reading the OP, I've ONLY JUST become aware that there's a whole column on the right-hand side of the screen with "Trektoday Headlines" on it.

I've really never noticed it before, and the only reason I noticed it now was because I was actually looking for all the things I automatically auto-tune out of my perception.
 
Internet advertising has zero influence on me, and actually, if I get a popup ad come up on a page I'm trying to read, I will not buy anything that company produces, because their POS ad got in the way of what I was doing. The way to attract customers isn't to tick them off, and I won't reward them for ticking me off. If I want to give you my business, I will. If you (the companies) want to waste your dollars on useless shit that has no affect (like internet ads), then by all means, be my guest. But they won't get any returns on the effort by way of my business.

The ONLY internet ads I actually do both welcome and use, are offers and coupons from Carl's Jr., but that's because I have been a loyal customer of theirs for a long time, and intentionally signed up for those offers, so it's something that I decided I want, and not something they imposed on me.
 
The great thing about the Internet is that its easier to hide from ads making it harder for the megacorps to push their products. Evening the field for smaller companies.
 
Not all ads pop up.
For anyone using Google AdSense part of the vernacular is "impressions", the number of times your ad has been exposed to someone passively.

I miss the old days of flash advergaming where you could do a little passive interaction on mouse.over and have a fun distraction doing something without the fear of clicking through to spam-land.
 
The guy I'm seeing has type I diabetes; I looked up some information about it and now google thinks I want to buy glucose meters. *sigh*
 
Unfortunately, I joined the internet during the 'scaredy cat' phase as the dot com bubble burst and suddenly buying anything online was the equivalent of standing on the street corner handing out copies of your credit card saying 'please send me something in return' to each person. As a result, a deep seated distrust of internet advertising is ingrained. Nowadays I do a lot of online shopping - most of my income that doesn't go on the food shop probably gets spent online, through bill payments, online shopping, etc. But if I want something, I'll search for it, and then check out the company that pops up. I'd never click through a banner ad and make a purchase. Ever.
 
I'm on the other side of the equation, having been involved in purchasing internet advertising. The best returns in terms of clickthrough and purchase definitely come from Google, and I think that's because people are already in the mindset of searching for related products and information.

Facebook advertising isn't anywhere near as good value, and everything else is plain garbage. With only a micro advertising budget that focuses on generating clickthroughs, Google is definitely the best ROI. If we were doing a different kind of advertising (mass-market/mindshare-grabbing type of stuff), then FB and other sites make more sense as advertising media. On the side-topic of FB's stock price, IMO it's still overpriced. The idea of highly specific advertising opportunities is fair enough; the problem is being able to trust that FB can really deliver those opportunities.
 
So even just from this small sample of responses we see a majority of people tuning them out. I do agree that with Google and Amazon that at least directed ads relative to your search criteria makes sense. But as holdfast pointed out, anywhere else isn't very effective. It's good to hear from the other side, those who purchase advertising.

Stock value has perception so intimately intertwined these days, more so than real value. "Valuation" is really more like "speculation". With Facebook's too lofty stock starting price, confidence is heavily battered. Will it fall aside with the likes of MySpace and Friendster? Definitely not. Facebook marketing has been far more aggressive and pervasive, plus the membership base is too large and has a strong vested interest. But I think the company is at a precarious point right now. I've heard a number of impressions from friends and acquaintances that have awakened to find themselves spending too much time on Facebook and have begun to pull back. Some have even stopped. Facebook was trying to make itself the hub of social networking, but if it becomes an accessory instead, then I can't see this company stock being worth more than $10/share.
 
I have a subconscious feeling that if I see an ad on the internet that it is from a shady organization. If I don't recognize the company and I see something different I assume it's just some type of spam. I wonder if companies ever consider that.
 
I've heard a lot recently from people that they only use Facebook because they like to look at people's pictures, and as a result, many of them have ditched Facebook in favor of Instagram.

I, personally, am a Facebook whore, and all my friends know it. :lol:
 
The only ads that have ever been successful with me are Google's, but that's because they are context-sensitive so they show results that are relevant to what I'm already looking for.
 
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