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Game The Most Disliked Episode Written By Michael Piller

I'll save "The Perfect Mate" - blatant sexism aside, it's got some appealing scenes. I just wish Trek would do a male version of it somewhere, sometime. ;)

TNG Season 5: "The Masterpiece Society" (teleplay with Adam Belanoff)
VOY Season 2: "Tattoo" (teleplay)[/QUOTE]
 
Wow, you work one shift and the game practically ends.

I somehow missed Tattoo and Masterpiece is dreck, so letting someone else determine the winner.
 
And here I come along at the finish line -- and I'm stumped! My brain explodes when it tries to pick the better offering between these two.

This happens sometimes when I check in and find the final elimination waiting. I'll then go off for an hour and do other things, and suddenly I realize "X is the better one!", and then I come back to save it, but someone else has always posted a final elimination 2 minutes earlier. :bolian:

So, let's see if that happens again... off to cook dinner... I'll be stirring a pot and SUDDENLY--
 
The best part of "The Perfect Mate" is when Kamala growls at Worf. :klingon:

But it was also strangely tragic... I'm surprised it finished so high on this list. Maybe it shows that most of Mr. Piller's stuff was pretty good.
 
I''ll save Tattoo because, while it's pretty bad, at least the Doctor infecting himself with a holo virus was funny. The Masterpiece Society, along with The Perfect Mate, to be honest, is one of those episodes that makes me physically recoil with how much I dislike it.


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Seriously.

The Masterflunk Society is so much a steaming bag of skunk doodie and a pitilessly poor rehash of "Pan Pals" at best, to the point that PP's flaws I love to nitpick endlessly about are fragrant tulips and posies by comparison. And considering how TMS otherwise has that thought-provoking scene with Geordi that gets me in "teh feelz" every time, the rest of the episode is so much of what Admiral Vance there loved describing his apples as coming from that it's difficult to consider in most polls because it's so contrived (a typical season 5 failing...)

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I started typing a message out to save The Passenger, but I fell asleep in my chair instead. :D Someone saved it though.

The Perfect Mate has a great scene between Picard and Kamala, but the episode is bogged down in Ferengi hijinks that which makes it a tough watch.

Tattoo had some decent Chakotay backstory, and I always sort of liked it when I first watched it. Now I understand from reading interviews over the years that Chakotay's Native American backstory wasn't very well thought out, and makes the episode more of a loser.

I was rooting for Insurrection to win - the definition of mediocre. :shrug: ;)
 
Honestly, "The Masterpiece Society" deserves to win this because of one reason... it was boring. Which is really the worst thing any form of entertainment can be.

I think it would have been better if it focused more on the conversations between Hannah and Geordi instead of the romance. I feel there was more meat to the story there than the Troi/Connor romance.
 
Oh, I'm the person who liked Into Darkness, my bad. :whistle:

Well, apart from Spock getting all emotional, again. It felt redundant after the first film, which had been earnt via the death of his mother, and the destruction of Vulcan. :vulcan:
 
I LOVE Into Darkness. When I take sentimental attachments out of it, 2nd best Star Trek film.

(When I factor in sentimental attachments, it drops to 3rd best)
 
I LOVE Into Darkness. When I take sentimental attachments out of it, 2nd best Star Trek film.

(When I factor in sentimental attachments, it drops to 3rd best)

I would have thought sentimental attachments would upgrade a movie, not downgrade it. Unless I'm missing something?


I am truly baffled why INTO DARKNESS has any love at all. It lifts entire scenes from a FAR superior movie, the plot has more holes than swiss cheese, the action sequences are ludicrous, and they doubled down on the lens flare. I have more reasons, but this isn't the topic.
 
I would have thought sentimental attachments would upgrade a movie, not downgrade it. Unless I'm missing something?

I think the three Kelvin films are far and away the best Trek movies (and within the trilogy, preference goes: Beyond, Darkness, and then '09), but "The Undiscovered Country" is a sentimental favorite that gets slot #1.

If I take sentiment out, TUC goes down to #4 and each of the Kelvin films moves up one.
 
Oh, I'm the person who liked Into Darkness, my bad. :whistle:

Well, apart from Spock getting all emotional, again. It felt redundant after the first film, which had been earnt via the death of his mother, and the destruction of Vulcan. :vulcan:

The movie's potential is there and I was really into it... until "Khan" is revealed, followed by overly long action schlock - including Spock doing punches, which Nimoy was not keen on doing in 1966 hence the neck pinch - and an iconic trait was made. The "need" to have the big finish involving starships bulldozing buildings in 23rd century Earth was silly as well. Nitpicks aside, the first half is genuinely wonderful stuff, and the terrorism aspect was done far better than the TNG episode. But it's easy to see why it's loved by many or loved. I'm one of the weirdios who can't fit into either camp so easily.
 
I started typing a message out to save The Passenger, but I fell asleep in my chair instead. :D Someone saved it though.

The Perfect Mate has a great scene between Picard and Kamala, but the episode is bogged down in Ferengi hijinks that which makes it a tough watch.

Tattoo had some decent Chakotay backstory, and I always sort of liked it when I first watched it. Now I understand from reading interviews over the years that Chakotay's Native American backstory wasn't very well thought out, and makes the episode more of a loser.

I was rooting for Insurrection to win - the definition of mediocre. :shrug: ;)

"The Perfect Mate" really bothers me - Kamala has no free will. Everyone around her has made sure she's never alone so she can't figure out who she is or what she wants out of life.

I'm not sure why I like Insurrection as much as I do, but it's one of the Star Trek movies that I like the best. It's somehow very watchable despite not being great if you wrote a summary of the story. I also love the one with the whales.

The movie's potential is there and I was really into it... until "Khan" is revealed, followed by overly long action schlock - including Spock doing punches, which Nimoy was not keen on doing in 1966 hence the neck pinch - and an iconic trait was made. The "need" to have the big finish involving starships bulldozing buildings in 23rd century Earth was silly as well. Nitpicks aside, the first half is genuinely wonderful stuff, and the terrorism aspect was done far better than the TNG episode. But it's easy to see why it's loved by many or loved. I'm one of the weirdios who can't fit into either camp so easily.

I agree, but the things that bothered me about it bothered me enough that I don't feel like re-watching it any time soon.
 
"The Perfect Mate" really bothers me - Kamala has no free will. Everyone around her has made sure she's never alone so she can't figure out who she is or what she wants out of life.
I think it's meant to. In the end, the blow is softened because Kamala becomes a person like Picard, genuinely willing to subordinate her own interests to serve a greater good. But, there is a deep element of tragedy to the end nonetheless.

Given that the Royal Ugly Dude cared more about money than he did about Kamala, why couldn't Picard make him an offer he couldn't refuse? I'm sure the Enterprise's replicators could put out something he really wanted.
 
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