The Most Disliked Episode of TNG - Season 3...

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  1. Farscape One

    Farscape One Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    This is a twist on a game that is played here, which I thoroughly enjoyed.

    Here's the game. The basic idea is your standard elimination game. I'll provide a list of the episodes for each season and you need to eliminate your most favorite or the one you deem the 'best.' Please provide an EXPLANATION for why you are eliminating your choice and be sure to copy and paste the list with your choice removed. Finally, leave at least 2 eliminations by other posters before you eliminate another episode.

    No tactical voting! You cannot remove an episode because you feel they would threaten your preferred episode's chance to win. Pretty simple. Enjoy!

    Hall of Champions (or Failures?)
    2011 - "Shades Of Gray"
    2018 - "The Outrageous Okona"
    2019 - "Code of Honor"

    Season Three -

    Evolution
    The Ensigns of Command
    The Survivors
    Who Watchers The Watchers
    The Bonding
    Booby Trap
    The Enemy
    The Price
    The Vengeance Factor
    The Defector
    The Hunted
    The High Ground
    Deja Q
    A Matter of Perspective
    Yesterday's Enterprise
    The Offspring
    Sins Of the Father
    Allegiance
    Captain's Holiday
    Tin Man
    Hollow Pursuits
    The Most Toys
    Sarek
    Menage a Troi
    Transfigurations
    The Best of Both Worlds
     
    Last edited: Aug 14, 2019
  2. Farscape One

    Farscape One Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I will get the ball rolling by saving "The Offspring". I know there are other episodes season that I might rate higher, but this one has always been a tear jerker for me. Data is my favorite character, and the reason I became a scifi fan. And not having a father myself, Data really endeared me even more with this episode. I was in complete agreement with Crusher when she said she found it hard to believe when Data said he was incapable of giving love. Time and time again, he has proven he is capable. And losing Lal at the end, and him bringing her memories into his mind because she enriched his life so greatly... I always shed multiple man tears at the end of this episode. Every time I see it. So Data, I save Lal for you, because you both enriched me.

    Evolution
    The Ensigns of Command
    The Survivors
    Who Watchers The Watchers
    The Bonding
    Booby Trap
    The Enemy
    The Price
    The Vengeance Factor
    The Defector
    The Hunted
    The High Ground
    Deja Q
    A Matter of Perspective
    Yesterday's Enterprise
    Sins Of the Father
    Allegiance
    Captain's Holiday
    Tin Man
    Hollow Pursuits
    The Most Toys
    Sarek
    Menage a Troi
    Transfigurations
    The Best of Both Worlds
     
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  3. Starflight

    Starflight Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Who Watches The Watchers, I just really like it. You can see every plot point coming a mile off but it's still a lot of fun and the scenes of whatever-her-name-was aboard the Enterprise learning about the Federation and seeing her planet from orbit are really striking.

    Evolution
    The Ensigns of Command
    The Survivors
    The Bonding
    Booby Trap
    The Enemy
    The Price
    The Vengeance Factor
    The Defector
    The Hunted
    The High Ground
    Deja Q
    A Matter of Perspective
    Yesterday's Enterprise
    Sins Of the Father
    Allegiance
    Captain's Holiday
    Tin Man
    Hollow Pursuits
    The Most Toys
    Sarek
    Menage a Troi
    Transfigurations
    The Best of Both Worlds
     
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  4. Takeru

    Takeru Takeru - Space Police Premium Member

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    Yesterday's Enterprise, the best use of Tasha in the entire series and an all around great episode.


    Evolution
    The Ensigns of Command
    The Survivors
    The Bonding
    Booby Trap
    The Enemy
    The Price
    The Vengeance Factor
    The Defector
    The Hunted
    The High Ground
    Deja Q
    A Matter of Perspective
    Sins Of the Father
    Allegiance
    Captain's Holiday
    Tin Man
    Hollow Pursuits
    The Most Toys
    Sarek
    Menage a Troi
    Transfigurations
    The Best of Both Worlds
     
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  5. BigDaveX

    BigDaveX Captain Captain

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    Sarek - a very moving story, made all the better by the acting tour de force on display from both Patrick Stewart and Mark Lenard.

    Evolution
    The Ensigns of Command
    The Survivors
    The Bonding
    Booby Trap
    The Enemy
    The Price
    The Vengeance Factor
    The Defector
    The Hunted
    The High Ground
    Deja Q
    A Matter of Perspective
    Sins Of the Father
    Allegiance
    Captain's Holiday
    Tin Man
    Hollow Pursuits
    The Most Toys
    Menage a Troi
    Transfigurations
    The Best of Both Worlds
     
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  6. Armus

    Armus Commodore Commodore

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    I always enjoyed The Vengeance Factor because it portrays Riker's romantic finesse and Picard's diplomatic finesse better than any other episode. Not the best 3rd season episode but the most unique in retrospect. The climax is certainly one of TNG's most memorable.

    Evolution
    The Ensigns of Command
    The Survivors
    The Bonding
    Booby Trap
    The Enemy
    The Price

    The Defector
    The Hunted
    The High Ground
    Deja Q
    A Matter of Perspective
    Sins Of the Father
    Allegiance
    Captain's Holiday
    Tin Man
    Hollow Pursuits
    The Most Toys
    Menage a Troi
    Transfigurations
    The Best of Both Worlds
     
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  7. Seven of Five

    Seven of Five Watch out HYDRA - here we come! Premium Member

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    The Defector is a wonderful use of the duplicitous Romulans.

    Evolution
    The Ensigns of Command
    The Survivors
    The Bonding
    Booby Trap
    The Enemy
    The Price
    The Hunted
    The High Ground
    Deja Q
    A Matter of Perspective
    Sins Of the Father
    Allegiance
    Captain's Holiday
    Tin Man
    Hollow Pursuits
    The Most Toys
    Menage a Troi
    Transfigurations
    The Best of Both Worlds
     
  8. JirinPanthosa

    JirinPanthosa Admiral Admiral

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    Removing Best of Both Worlds, as it is on the all time great episodes short list.

    Evolution
    The Ensigns of Command
    The Survivors
    The Bonding
    Booby Trap
    The Enemy
    The Price
    The Hunted
    The High Ground
    Deja Q
    A Matter of Perspective
    Sins Of the Father
    Allegiance
    Captain's Holiday
    Tin Man
    Hollow Pursuits
    The Most Toys
    Menage a Troi
    Transfigurations
     
  9. antinoos

    antinoos Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Hall of Champions are from Season 2
     
  10. Sakonna

    Sakonna Commodore Commodore

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    There's something really beautiful and moving about "Tin Man." And, good use of Troi! That's always a way to hook me, I so loved that character and she was so perpetually subjected to trash like "The Price."

    Evolution
    The Ensigns of Command
    The Survivors
    The Bonding
    Booby Trap
    The Enemy
    The Price
    The Hunted
    The High Ground
    Deja Q
    A Matter of Perspective
    Sins Of the Father
    Allegiance
    Captain's Holiday
    Hollow Pursuits
    The Most Toys
    Menage a Troi
    Transfigurations
     
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  11. Farscape One

    Farscape One Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I will save "Deja Q". I've always loved the episode. Great scenes with Q and... well, everyone. And Data getting the gift of laughter at the end... loved it.

    Evolution
    The Ensigns of Command
    The Survivors
    The Bonding
    Booby Trap
    The Enemy
    The Price
    The Hunted
    The High Ground
    A Matter of Perspective
    Sins Of the Father
    Allegiance
    Captain's Holiday
    Hollow Pursuits
    The Most Toys
    Menage a Troi
    Transfigurations
     
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  12. Unimatrix Q

    Unimatrix Q Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I'll save Evolution, because of the nostalgic feelings i get, every time i watch this episode and because the nanites were an interesting concept.

    The Ensigns of Command
    The Survivors
    The Bonding
    Booby Trap
    The Enemy
    The Price
    The Hunted
    The High Ground
    A Matter of Perspective
    Sins Of the Father
    Allegiance
    Captain's Holiday
    Hollow Pursuits
    The Most Toys
    Menage a Troi
    Transfigurations
     
  13. nutshell

    nutshell Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I’ll save Sins of the Father. It kicked off the ongoing storyline about Worf’s relationship with and place in the Empire.

    The Ensigns of Command
    The Survivors
    The Bonding
    Booby Trap
    The Enemy
    The Price
    The Hunted
    The High Ground
    A Matter of Perspective
    Allegiance
    Captain's Holiday
    Hollow Pursuits
    The Most Toys
    Menage a Troi
    Transfigurations
     
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  14. Seven of Five

    Seven of Five Watch out HYDRA - here we come! Premium Member

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    The Ensigns of Command is saved. The Data story was a tad ordinary, but the way Picard deals with the Sheliak is delicious.

    The Survivors
    The Bonding
    Booby Trap
    The Enemy
    The Price
    The Hunted
    The High Ground
    A Matter of Perspective
    Allegiance
    Captain's Holiday
    Hollow Pursuits
    The Most Toys
    Menage a Troi
    Transfigurations
     
  15. Armus

    Armus Commodore Commodore

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    I'll take The High Ground. It has the hands down best action sequence in the third season.



    The Survivors
    The Bonding
    Booby Trap
    The Enemy
    The Price
    The Hunted

    A Matter of Perspective
    Allegiance
    Captain's Holiday
    Hollow Pursuits
    The Most Toys
    Menage a Troi
    Transfigurations
     
  16. Sakonna

    Sakonna Commodore Commodore

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    I love the way "The Most Toys" handles the echoes of Tasha's death in the shipboard plot, and Data in captivity provides satisfying drama as well.

    The Survivors
    The Bonding
    Booby Trap
    The Enemy
    The Price
    The Hunted
    A Matter of Perspective
    Allegiance
    Captain's Holiday
    Hollow Pursuits
    Menage a Troi
    Transfigurations
     
  17. BigDaveX

    BigDaveX Captain Captain

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    Hollow Pursuits - some great bits of humour, and a nice introduction to Barclay.

    The Survivors
    The Bonding
    Booby Trap
    The Enemy
    The Price
    The Hunted
    A Matter of Perspective
    Allegiance
    Captain's Holiday
    Menage a Troi
    Transfigurations
     
  18. Armus

    Armus Commodore Commodore

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    Great ending, albeit controversial. Data's programming couldn't allow a man like Fajo to roam free.
    "I cannot permit this to continue."

     
  19. gakelly

    gakelly Commander Red Shirt

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    Captain's Holiday. The captain gets lucky. And the scene where the woman is asking Picard about the Horta (or whatever it was) is a winner.

    The Survivors
    The Bonding
    Booby Trap
    The Enemy
    The Price
    The Hunted
    A Matter of Perspective
    Allegiance

    Menage a Troi
    Transfigurations
     
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  20. Armus

    Armus Commodore Commodore

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    Allegiance is a fun take on the old abducted-by-aliens plot. Each captive was taken because they each have a different relationship towards authority. Hence a Captain, a cadet, an anarchist, and the snooty alien who defers to all authority. I enjoyed the scenes on the Enterprise where the fake Picard plays games with everyone.

    The Survivors
    The Bonding
    Booby Trap
    The Enemy
    The Price
    The Hunted
    A Matter of Perspective
    Menage a Troi
    Transfigurations
     
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