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  1. Farscape One

    Farscape One Vice Admiral Admiral

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    How is "YEAR OF HELL" still here?

    Great concept and execution. Just wished it was a little longer and fidn't have the reset.


    DS9 Season 6: "Tears of the Prophets"
    DS9 Season 7: "Shadows and Symbols"
    VOY Season 6: "Fair Haven"
    VOY Season 6: "Unimatrix Zero, Part I"
    VOY Season 7: "Inside Man"
    VOY Season 7: "Workforce, Part I"
    VOY Season 7: "Endgame"
    ENT Season 1: "Fight or Flight"
    ENT Season 1: "Rogue Planet"
    ENT Season 1: "Shockwave, Part I"
    ENT Season 2: "Shockwave, Part II"
    ENT Season 2: "Canamar"
    ENT Season 2: "The Expanse"
    ENT Season 3: "The Xindi"
    ENT Season 3: "Azati Prime"
    ENT Season 3: "Zero Hour"
    ENT Season 4: "Storm Front, Part I"
    ENT Season 4: "Home"
    ENT Season 4: "Bound"
    ENT Season 4: "These Are the Voyages..."
     
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  2. Brennyren

    Brennyren Commodore Commodore

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    "Unimatrix Zero" had some clever concepts, including the titular "location," but honestly, I'm saving it for the "guilty pleasure" factor. When your wacky caper plot consists of "let's get assimilated and then raid the cube!" -- well, in the words of Sheldon Cooper, "Sure! Why not?! And after the sun goes down, we can all pile in my pick-up and go skinny dippin' down at the crick, because today's the day to stop making sense!" I mean, it's a crazy plot, but you can't say they don't commit to it.

    Yes, Chakotay, just go to red alert and get it over with.

    DS9 Season 6: "Tears of the Prophets"
    DS9 Season 7: "Shadows and Symbols"
    VOY Season 6: "Fair Haven"
    VOY Season 7: "Inside Man"
    VOY Season 7: "Workforce, Part I"
    VOY Season 7: "Endgame"
    ENT Season 1: "Fight or Flight"
    ENT Season 1: "Rogue Planet"
    ENT Season 1: "Shockwave, Part I"
    ENT Season 2: "Shockwave, Part II"
    ENT Season 2: "Canamar"
    ENT Season 2: "The Expanse"
    ENT Season 3: "The Xindi"
    ENT Season 3: "Azati Prime"
    ENT Season 3: "Zero Hour"
    ENT Season 4: "Storm Front, Part I"
    ENT Season 4: "Home"
    ENT Season 4: "Bound"
    ENT Season 4: "These Are the Voyages..."
     
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  3. Sakonna

    Sakonna Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    "Shadows And Symbols" satisfies. Ezri's first real outing is well handled, and it was great to return to Benny Russell. The three stories are all nicely balanced.

    DS9 Season 6: "Tears of the Prophets"
    VOY Season 6: "Fair Haven"
    VOY Season 7: "Inside Man"
    VOY Season 7: "Workforce, Part I"
    VOY Season 7: "Endgame"
    ENT Season 1: "Fight or Flight"
    ENT Season 1: "Rogue Planet"
    ENT Season 1: "Shockwave, Part I"
    ENT Season 2: "Shockwave, Part II"
    ENT Season 2: "Canamar"
    ENT Season 2: "The Expanse"
    ENT Season 3: "The Xindi"
    ENT Season 3: "Azati Prime"
    ENT Season 3: "Zero Hour"
    ENT Season 4: "Storm Front, Part I"
    ENT Season 4: "Home"
    ENT Season 4: "Bound"
    ENT Season 4: "These Are the Voyages..."
     
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  4. Farscape One

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    Saving "TEARS OF THE PROPHETS".

    A good season finale, with the war finally having the Federation go on the offensive.

    Sad that Jadzia was killed, though.

    VOY Season 6: "Fair Haven"
    VOY Season 7: "Inside Man"
    VOY Season 7: "Workforce, Part I"
    VOY Season 7: "Endgame"
    ENT Season 1: "Fight or Flight"
    ENT Season 1: "Rogue Planet"
    ENT Season 1: "Shockwave, Part I"
    ENT Season 2: "Shockwave, Part II"
    ENT Season 2: "Canamar"
    ENT Season 2: "The Expanse"
    ENT Season 3: "The Xindi"
    ENT Season 3: "Azati Prime"
    ENT Season 3: "Zero Hour"
    ENT Season 4: "Storm Front, Part I"
    ENT Season 4: "Home"
    ENT Season 4: "Bound"
    ENT Season 4: "These Are the Voyages..."
     
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  5. JirinPanthosa

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    I always thought Workforce was one of the best Voyager episodes. Shows the cast in a new light and gets topical.

    VOY Season 6: "Fair Haven"
    VOY Season 7: "Inside Man”
    VOY Season 7: "Endgame"
    ENT Season 1: "Fight or Flight"
    ENT Season 1: "Rogue Planet"
    ENT Season 1: "Shockwave, Part I"
    ENT Season 2: "Shockwave, Part II"
    ENT Season 2: "Canamar"
    ENT Season 2: "The Expanse"
    ENT Season 3: "The Xindi"
    ENT Season 3: "Azati Prime"
    ENT Season 3: "Zero Hour"
    ENT Season 4: "Storm Front, Part I"
    ENT Season 4: "Home"
    ENT Season 4: "Bound"
    ENT Season 4: "These Are the Voyages..."[/QUOTE]
     
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  6. Seven of Five

    Seven of Five Stupid Sexy Flanders! Premium Member

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    Azati Prime is one of ENT's best episodes, and had a stunner of a cliffhanger.

    It took a few episodes to get there, but when it did, S3 of ENT was cooking on gas.

    VOY Season 6: "Fair Haven"
    VOY Season 7: "Inside Man”
    VOY Season 7: "Endgame"
    ENT Season 1: "Fight or Flight"
    ENT Season 1: "Rogue Planet"
    ENT Season 1: "Shockwave, Part I"
    ENT Season 2: "Shockwave, Part II"
    ENT Season 2: "Canamar"
    ENT Season 2: "The Expanse"
    ENT Season 3: "The Xindi"
    ENT Season 3: "Zero Hour"
    ENT Season 4: "Storm Front, Part I"
    ENT Season 4: "Home"
    ENT Season 4: "Bound"
    ENT Season 4: "These Are the Voyages..."
     
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  7. Sakonna

    Sakonna Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I was curious if DS9 and VOY would get fully off the board before we had our first Enterprise save, and we almost did! :bolian:

    I'll make it two saves for Enterprise with "Fight Or Flight." Collectively, this episode, "Broken Bow", and "Strange New World" are for me a very promising start to Enterprise, before it all starts to go off the rails. This one is a great utilization of the prequel premise and a strong showcase for Hoshi. The endings a little pat, but on the whole it's an enjoyable outing that got real juice out of the Enterprise setup.

    VOY Season 6: "Fair Haven"
    VOY Season 7: "Inside Man”
    VOY Season 7: "Endgame"
    ENT Season 1: "Rogue Planet"
    ENT Season 1: "Shockwave, Part I"
    ENT Season 2: "Shockwave, Part II"
    ENT Season 2: "Canamar"
    ENT Season 2: "The Expanse"
    ENT Season 3: "The Xindi"
    ENT Season 3: "Zero Hour"
    ENT Season 4: "Storm Front, Part I"
    ENT Season 4: "Home"
    ENT Season 4: "Bound"
    ENT Season 4: "These Are the Voyages..."
     
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  8. Farscape One

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    Funny enough, I had the exact same thought about ENTERPRISE episodes on this list. (Though considering two of the last VOYAGERs left here, I think ENTERPRISE was safe from being the last series standing.)

    And "FIGHT OR FLIGHT" was going to be my next save for pretty much exactly the same reasons.

    My next save will be "ZERO HOUR". It was an excellent end to the season. Only problem was the very end with alien Nazi.

    VOY Season 6: "Fair Haven"
    VOY Season 7: "Inside Man”
    VOY Season 7: "Endgame"
    ENT Season 1: "Rogue Planet"
    ENT Season 1: "Shockwave, Part I"
    ENT Season 2: "Shockwave, Part II"
    ENT Season 2: "Canamar"
    ENT Season 2: "The Expanse"
    ENT Season 3: "The Xindi"
    ENT Season 4: "Storm Front, Part I"
    ENT Season 4: "Home"
    ENT Season 4: "Bound"
    ENT Season 4: "These Are the Voyages..."
     
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  9. Seven of Five

    Seven of Five Stupid Sexy Flanders! Premium Member

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    The Expanse was a little bloated with the fight against Duras, yet aside from that, it did a good job giving the show some purpose.

    VOY Season 6: "Fair Haven"
    VOY Season 7: "Inside Man”
    VOY Season 7: "Endgame"
    ENT Season 1: "Rogue Planet"
    ENT Season 1: "Shockwave, Part I"
    ENT Season 2: "Shockwave, Part II"
    ENT Season 2: "Canamar"
    ENT Season 3: "The Xindi"
    ENT Season 4: "Storm Front, Part I"
    ENT Season 4: "Home"
    ENT Season 4: "Bound"
    ENT Season 4: "These Are the Voyages..."
     
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  10. Sakonna

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    “Canamar” is a bland, inconsequential episode, but it’s “fine” where most of what’s remaining is “actively bad.” At least it has a fun basic premise.

    VOY Season 6: "Fair Haven"
    VOY Season 7: "Inside Man”
    VOY Season 7: "Endgame"
    ENT Season 1: "Rogue Planet"
    ENT Season 1: "Shockwave, Part I"
    ENT Season 2: "Shockwave, Part II"
    ENT Season 3: "The Xindi"
    ENT Season 4: "Storm Front, Part I"
    ENT Season 4: "Home"
    ENT Season 4: "Bound"
    ENT Season 4: "These Are the Voyages..."
     
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    "HOME" is going... home.

    It was good breather episode, after all that happened to the crew. And frankly, needed. Perfectly placed right after the "STORM FRONT" two-parter. Reminds me of "YOU ARE CORDIALLY INVITED" in that sense.

    VOY Season 6: "Fair Haven"
    VOY Season 7: "Inside Man”
    VOY Season 7: "Endgame"
    ENT Season 1: "Rogue Planet"
    ENT Season 1: "Shockwave, Part I"
    ENT Season 2: "Shockwave, Part II"
    ENT Season 3: "The Xindi"
    ENT Season 4: "Storm Front, Part I"
    ENT Season 4: "Bound"
    ENT Season 4: "These Are the Voyages..."
     
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  12. Seven of Five

    Seven of Five Stupid Sexy Flanders! Premium Member

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    The Xindi was average fare, and made me a little worried that season 3 of ENT would just be more of the same. I like it more than what is left, though.

    VOY Season 6: "Fair Haven"
    VOY Season 7: "Inside Man”
    VOY Season 7: "Endgame"
    ENT Season 1: "Rogue Planet"
    ENT Season 1: "Shockwave, Part I"
    ENT Season 2: "Shockwave, Part II"
    ENT Season 4: "Storm Front, Part I"
    ENT Season 4: "Bound"
    ENT Season 4: "These Are the Voyages.."
     
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  13. Sakonna

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    That particulars of this ep leaves much to be desired, but I’m still always happy to build out the Orions more, so saving “Bound.”

    VOY Season 6: "Fair Haven"
    VOY Season 7: "Inside Man”
    VOY Season 7: "Endgame"
    ENT Season 1: "Rogue Planet"
    ENT Season 1: "Shockwave, Part I"
    ENT Season 2: "Shockwave, Part II"
    ENT Season 4: "Storm Front, Part I"
    ENT Season 4: "These Are the Voyages.."
     
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  14. Farscape One

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    We're getting close to the point where I just can't vote anymore.

    Saving "ROGUE PLANET", because I love the idea of that kind of planet, and it has RARELY been done in the franchise. Plus, it doesn't deal with the Temporal Cold War.

    VOY Season 6: "Fair Haven"
    VOY Season 7: "Inside Man”
    VOY Season 7: "Endgame"
    ENT Season 1: "Shockwave, Part I"
    ENT Season 2: "Shockwave, Part II"
    ENT Season 4: "Storm Front, Part I"
    ENT Season 4: "These Are the Voyages.."
     
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  15. Seven of Five

    Seven of Five Stupid Sexy Flanders! Premium Member

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    It's getting harder and harder to choose between the turds. ;)

    At least Inside Man had some genuine humour in it, with the 'Barclay hologram doing impressions of the crew.

    VOY Season 6: "Fair Haven"
    VOY Season 7: "Endgame"
    ENT Season 1: "Shockwave, Part I"
    ENT Season 2: "Shockwave, Part II"
    ENT Season 4: "Storm Front, Part I"
    ENT Season 4: "These Are the Voyages.."
     
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  16. Sakonna

    Sakonna Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I'll save "Endgame", which has some moments I think are OK. Voyager's take on the Borg Queen is always good for the camp factor.

    Wow, this is a terrible final five!

    VOY Season 6: "Fair Haven"
    ENT Season 1: "Shockwave, Part I"
    ENT Season 2: "Shockwave, Part II"
    ENT Season 4: "Storm Front, Part I"
    ENT Season 4: "These Are the Voyages.."
     
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  17. JirinPanthosa

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    Saving Stormfront, by process of elimination. It has alien Nazis, which is ridiculous enough to be somewhat enjoyable, whereas there's nothing enjoyable about the other episodes.

    VOY Season 6: "Fair Haven"
    ENT Season 1: "Shockwave, Part I"
    ENT Season 2: "Shockwave, Part II"
    ENT Season 4: "These Are the Voyages.."
     
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  18. Brennyren

    Brennyren Commodore Commodore

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    "Shockwave, Part I" could've been worse. Its ending scene was memorable, and a good one to go into hiatus on. Also, there was a nice bit of interaction when T'Pol basically told Archer to stop feeling sorry for himself.

    VOY Season 6: "Fair Haven"
    ENT Season 2: "Shockwave, Part II"
    ENT Season 4: "These Are the Voyages.."
     
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  19. Sakonna

    Sakonna Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Wow. A more terrible final three we may never have had.

    I’ll save “Fair Haven.” It’s at least just a regular run-of-the-mill mid-season episode, as opposed to a season premiere, or a series/franchise era finale!!!

    ENT Season 2: "Shockwave, Part II"
    ENT Season 4: "These Are the Voyages.."
     
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  20. Seven of Five

    Seven of Five Stupid Sexy Flanders! Premium Member

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    And with one final blow, the awful Shockwave, Part II is saved, leaving the even more awful These Are The Voyages as the winner.

    In Shockwave's case, it undid anything mildly interesting that had been established in part one, and it had the stupid gazelle speech.

    TATV was just ill-advised all around. They shouldn't have had the events in it gravitate around events that were supposedly off-screen in The Pegasus, as it's not even like anything Riker and Troi talked about made sense within the events we already saw in it.

    We have Trip killed off in an uninteresting way, so that Archer can make it to the ceremony and do his big speech. However, they decided to cut away at that moment?

    It's also bad to see a total lack of any kind of character progression that happened between Terra Prime and TATV.
     
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