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The "message" in Titanic

I always thought the message was that big metal boats sink if they are poorly constructed and get holes in them from hitting ice...
 
I really don't think this was meant to be the message so much as it simply being a sign of the times. I think the real message was "Billy Zane is a douche."

I believe he mended his ways. I'm convinced that Cal faked his suicide so that he could take on a new identity... as The Phantom! "Slam evil!"
 
i thought the message was don't go steaming full ahead in a ice field.

As for the Titanic being badly designed it was very well designed for it's time. It just suffered damage that was beyond the design parameters. It is likely similar ships of that time would have sunk a lot faster than the Titanic did.
 
i thought the message was don't go steaming full ahead in a ice field.

As for the Titanic being badly designed it was very well designed for it's time. It just suffered damage that was beyond the design parameters. It is likely similar ships of that time would have sunk a lot faster than the Titanic did.

The design was good on paper. The result was a design of cut corners.
 
i thought the message was don't go steaming full ahead in a ice field.

As for the Titanic being badly designed it was very well designed for it's time. It just suffered damage that was beyond the design parameters. It is likely similar ships of that time would have sunk a lot faster than the Titanic did.

It's a plot hole!
 
I don't think that "rich people are snobs and poor people are not" was the message. If it was, then characters like the woman Kathy Bates played would not have been so likeable in the film. I think the real message was that the more honest you are with yourself and others, regardless of your financial status, the happier you will be. Kathy Bates' character was depicted as brutally honest and one of the happiest characters in the film. Cal and Rose's mother were both trying to play out a silly charade, leading to their stuck up attitude and negative outlooks on life. So I don't think the message you are perceiving was really in the film at all.
 
I don't think that "rich people are snobs and poor people are not" was the message. If it was, then characters like the woman Kathy Bates played would not have been so likeable in the film.

That implies absolutes, and there is no such thing.

Maybe THAT was the message.

If there was one.
 
Wasn't Bates character "The Unsinkable Molly Brown" a Nouveau riche, social activist? Someone who came from the lower classes and found weath through hard work and not inheritance.
 
Wasn't Bates character "The Unsinkable Molly Brown" a Nouveau riche, social activist? Someone who came from the lower classes and found weath through hard work and not inheritance.

I don't know about the social activist part, but the rest is true, yeah.
 
I thought the message was to feel really bad for whichever second-stringer Rose eventually married and popped out a couple kids with...

Which remind me of a smartass description of the movie I once read. "Woman ignores liftime of happiness with husband, children, and grandchildren who loved her and cherishes memories of that one time she slept with a bum."
 
i thought the message was don't go steaming full ahead in a ice field.

As for the Titanic being badly designed it was very well designed for it's time. It just suffered damage that was beyond the design parameters. It is likely similar ships of that time would have sunk a lot faster than the Titanic did.

Well, the biggest problem wasn't so much the design (the the problems with the small rudder, the screw behind the rudder not moving in reverse) ships sink. Still happens today.

Titanic's biggest problem was not having enough lifeboats for its full compliment and the crew not having the training or confidence to properly fill the lifeboats they did have. Half the people survived who could have based on the lifeboats alone.

The design of the ship was the least of Titanic's problems.
 
For the record, in real life, 74.79% of all third-class passengers aboard the Titanic died, 58.60% of all second-class passengers died, and only 37.85% of first-class passengers died.

So the idea that the film was somehow unjustified in depicting the oppression suffered by lower-class passengers is hogwash. Class oppression was clearly an important component of early 20th Century Anglo-American culture, of the internal dynamics of passenger life aboard trans-Atlantic cruise liners, and of the Titanic disaster. Death was not spread evenly or randomly across the classes.
 
I thought the message was to feel really bad for whichever second-stringer Rose eventually married and popped out a couple kids with...

Which remind me of a smartass description of the movie I once read. "Woman ignores liftime of happiness with husband, children, and grandchildren who loved her and cherishes memories of that one time she slept with a bum."

Quite. How else do you explain the final scene?

It's the afterlife. Jack's there, but Rose's husband (assuming she had one) is not. What does that tell ya?
 
The message is that teenage girls have lots of money. :rommie:

We also found this out when the Twilight movies were released.
 
For the record, in real life, 74.79% of all third-class passengers aboard the Titanic died, 58.60% of all second-class passengers died, and only 37.85% of first-class passengers died.

So the idea that the film was somehow unjustified in depicting the oppression suffered by lower-class passengers is hogwash. Class oppression was clearly an important component of early 20th Century Anglo-American culture, of the internal dynamics of passenger life aboard trans-Atlantic cruise liners, and of the Titanic disaster. Death was not spread evenly or randomly across the classes.

Good point.
 
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