The merged and improved (?) KIC 8462852 thread

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  1. Dryson

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    Tabby's Star is located in the Cygnus Constellation.

    Here are some of the spacial event taking place in the Cygnus Constellation that might be effecting KIC 8462.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cygnus_X-1

    Here is map showing the location of Tabby's Star.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KIC_8462852#/media/File:NGC_6866_map.png

    This is a map of the Cygnus Constellation

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cygnus_(constellation)#/media/File:Cygnus_IAU.svg

    One of the spacial events has to effecting Tabby's Star.

    We can start by placing every spacial event from the Wiki article on the map of Cygnus to determine how close to Tabby's 8462 the event is to see whether or not an effect would be present.

    Cygnus X-3 is a microquasar containing a Wolf–Rayet star in orbit around a very compact object,with a period of only 4.8 hours.[21] The system is one of the most intrinsically luminous X-ray sources observed.[22]Interestingly, the system undergoes periodic outbursts of unknown nature,[23] and during one such outburst, the system was found to be emitting muons, likely caused by neutrinos.[24] While the compact object is thought to be a neutron star or possibly a black hole,[25] it is possible that the object is instead a more exotic stellar remnant, possibly the first discovered quark star, hypothesized due to its production of cosmic rays[26] that cannot be explained if the object is a normal neutron star.

    Tabby's Star is a normal star that has abnormal fluctuations in it's light curve.

    Could the unknown object in Cygnus X-3 possibly give us a clue to the nature of KIC 8462?

    Let's ask the computer.

    Sigourney Weaver voice " Computer, Tabby's Star is a normal star that has abnormal fluctuations in it's light curve. Could the unknown object in Cygnus X-3 possibly give us a clue to the nature of KIC 8462?"

     
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  2. Asbo Zaprudder

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    Nope. Cygnus (the Swan) is an arbitrary pattern of bright stars formed in the imagination of man. The objects in Cygnus are at vastly different distances from the solar system and from each other. KIC 8462852 is about 18 times closer to us than is Cygnus X-3.
     
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  3. PurpleBuddha

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    I am not sure the computer would say "nope."
     
  4. Asbo Zaprudder

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    Advanced programming -- did I pass the Turing test?
     
  5. publiusr

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    I wilL ### get ba-a-ack..kkkk to you on that.

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  6. Asbo Zaprudder

    Asbo Zaprudder Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Sounds like a halting problem.
     
  7. Dryson

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    Articles discussing Cygnus X-3

    http://atlantisrisingmagazine.com/article/the-secret-of-cygnus-x-3/

    Cygnus X - 3 is approximately 30,000 light years away from Earth.

    Tabby's Star is approximately 1,480 light years from Earth.

    A difference in distance of 28,520 light years in between Cygnus X - 3 and KIC 8462.

    Would it be possible that Cygnus X - 3 had a GRB, Gamma Ray Burst, event that is just now effecting KIC 8462?

    The other abnormal star, EPIC 204278916 or EPIC 2042 for short is located in the Upper Scorpius sector of the Scorpius-Centaurus Association.

    Maybe there is something hidden in the naming of the constellations for the fantasy lovers at least

    By combining the two constellations together a new creature will emerge such as a scorpion with the wings of the Cygnus Swan, A Swan that has a scorpion tale and scorpion pincers as it's feet or even a Swan with an elongated neck that would be the body of the Scorpion with the head of a Scorpion the beak of the Swan and the ability of the creature to turn its Swan wings into poisoned flailing scorpion tales while on the ground.

    But for the rest of us what is taking place at KIC 8462 is also taking place at EPIC 2042.

    I would have to surmise that each constellation will have a KIC and EPIC star that is a normal star with an abnormal light curve.
     
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  8. sojourner

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    You should stick to real science websites. Your understanding of things is tenuous enough as it is without dipping into the paranormal pseudo science.
     
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  9. Asbo Zaprudder

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    I treat his posts as free association improv, baby. Get with the groove. Nice!

     
  10. Dryson

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    The accretion disk of a compact object in Cygnus X-1 might be what is causing the dims of KIC 8462.
    If KIC 8462 is acting as if it is an oblate star based on its light curve then perhaps the accretion of disk of the Compact Object is transiting in front of KIC 8462 causing the light of KIC 8462 to appear to oblate but is in fact being obscured by the Compact Objects accretion disk.
     
  11. Asbo Zaprudder

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    Nope. Cygnus X-1 is about 6,100 light years away.

    I'll let you deduce why you are wrong.
     
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  12. Asbo Zaprudder

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    Latest theory is that the star is consuming one of its planets.

    https://arxiv.org/pdf/1612.07332v1.pdf

    I'm not sure that this explains all aspects of the observed dimming over the different time periods but it seems plausible.
     
  13. Dryson

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    KIC 8462825 and NML Cyngi appear to be rather close.

    NML Cygni - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NML_Cygni

    KIC is located at Dec:+44*27'24.61, right ascension: 20h 06m 15.457
    NML is located at Dec:+40*06'59.4, right ascension: 20h 46m 25.54

    The degrees between KIC and NML is approx. 4*21' in difference. Based on the distance value it would appear that NML is close enough to KIC to effect the light curve of KIC.
     
  14. sojourner

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    Nope. Space is "BIG". Really big. Really, really big.
     
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    Even the link you cited shows NmL Cyngi to be 5300 light years away. Since Tabby's star is about 1200 light years away, NML Cygni cannot transit between Earth and Tabby's star to block any light.
     
  17. Dryson

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    The light curve fluctuations could be the result of a planet colliding with KIC 8462 - http://www.popsci.com/tabbys-star-alien-megastructure-planet

    Cygnus X-1 (abbreviated Cyg X-1) is a galactic X-ray source in the constellation Cygnus, and the first such source widely accepted to be a black hole.

    The black hole Cygnus X-1 could possibly have captured a large planet at the furthest distance to the black hole that caused the rogue planet to be flung in the direction of Tabby's Star to eventually collide with the star.
     
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    The booger I just flipped might eventually hit you in the face. I am certain that is more likely.
     
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