The media and movie fans starting to lose interest in Star Trek (2013)

[1bulma1]

Re: The media and movie fans starting to lose interest in Star Trek (2

I'm quite happy for the secrecy myself.

Much like with The Hobbit, I fully intend to see the film when it comes out unless it's somehow considered a total disaster. As that's the case, I would much rather enjoy seeing the film without knowing what I'm walking into. A trailer or two might be acceptable, though I'd be just as happy not even being exposed to those beforehand.

While the trailer for The Hobbit was incredible, I find it kind of sad knowing that I won't get to experience those scenes for the first time in the context of the film.

I dont think its fair to compare 2013 trek with the hobbit based on the following reasons

1. the hobbit is only 4-5 months away
2. its based on a book
3. the full trailer is already out

I'm not clear as to how your reasons impact my argument. For what I said, all that seems pertinent is that I highly anticipate both films and wish to know as little as possible about either one in advance. I'm reasonably certain there are others who feel the same way. Heck, I'll post a poll if you'd like.

When one or the other is coming out, whether or not they're based on a book/existing franchise, and whether or not a trailer is currently available seem immaterial to my concerns.

I wasn’t directly replying to you comment...I was giving a reference to why star trek 12 and the hobbit cant really be compared and I guess the most important reason is that the hobbit is based on a book. So we know what to expect.

Star trek 2013 is not even on original trek...its an alternate reality. We don’t know what to expect at all.

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[Enterprise is Great]

Re: The media and movie fans starting to lose interest in Star Trek (2

Those people need to nut up...wimps.

 

[DonIago]

Re: The media and movie fans starting to lose interest in Star Trek (2

I wasn’t directly replying to you comment...I was giving a reference to why star trek 12 and the hobbit cant really be compared and I guess the most important reason is that the hobbit is based on a book. So we know what to expect.

Star trek 2013 is not even on original trek...its an alternate reality. We don’t know what to expect at all.

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To be fair, you only know what to expect if you've read the book, though certainly if you've seen LotR you have some ideas.

In any event, I don't see what's wrong with not knowing what to expect. If all else fails, wait until the movie's been released for a few days and look it up on Wikipedia.

Heck, I did read The Hobbit, and now I kind of wish I hadn't so that I could be entirely surprised by whatever the movie will throw at us.

 

[M'Sharak]

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I respectfully disagree with most of the things you said. however i do know that people are very frustrated at the fact that we dont know who cummberbath is playing or who the villain is.

Which people? Who are they? And why is it so crucially important that they know all this months in advance of the movie's release? Why do they believe that they're owed this?

What's wrong with waiting until the filmmakers are good and ready to let them know? What's wrong with waiting until they actually watch the movie for the first time? What is so wrong about being surprised by one's entertainment?

One would think these hypothetical people never watch a movie or read a book if they don't already know every last thing that's going to happen. How dull that must be.

I am very certain of this.

Yes, I'm sure you are.

Sorry if you mistakes my opinions as outbust.

Oh, there's no mistake. Now, about that blog...

 

[sojourner]

Re: The media and movie fans starting to lose interest in Star Trek (2

^Remember, The Hobbit is 2 movies. They are adding in a lot that wasn't in the book to better tie it to LOTR.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Re: The media and movie fans starting to lose interest in Star Trek (2

Why does anyone need to know who Cumberbatch is playing?

 

[1bulma1]

Re: The media and movie fans starting to lose interest in Star Trek (2

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I respectfully disagree with most of the things you said. however i do know that people are very frustrated at the fact that we dont know who cummberbath is playing or who the villain is.

Which people? Who are they? And why is it so crucially important that they know all this months in advance of the movie's release? Why do they believe that they're owed this?

What's wrong with waiting until the filmmakers are good and ready to let them know? What's wrong with waiting until they actually watch the movie for the first time? What is so wrong about being surprised by one's entertainment?

One would think these hypothetical people never watch a movie or read a book if they don't already know every last thing that's going to happen. How dull that must be.

I am very certain of this.

Yes, I'm sure you are.

Sorry if you mistakes my opinions as outbust.

Oh, there's no mistake. Now, about that blog...

the people consists of the fans on trekmovie.com who commented 2000+ times about whether khan is the villain or not.

here is the link

http://trekmovie.com/2012/04/30/major-star-trek-sequel-spoilers-confirmed/

Am guessing this article set a new record for having the most fan comments on any trek article.

And what where people arguing about?

IS KHAN? OR WAIT ITS NOT? O WAIT IT IS, BUT HE IS PROBABLY GOOD IN THIS TIMELINE...BLAH BLAH BLAH.


JJ should just tells us already....That all am saying.

 

[FlyingLemons]

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I rather have this same view of the snuff film they called Alien 3 (Newt, Hicks, Bishop, Ripley);

A snuff film is one where the actor playing the character is actually killed, and I see Sigourney Weaver walking around just fine and dandy. If she had thrown herself into a real furnace with a real alien bursting from her chest then it would have been a snuff film. However, both of those were special effects so thus it is not a snuff film, only a bad movie.

 

[Sindatur]

Re: The media and movie fans starting to lose interest in Star Trek (2

A lot of people including the core trek fans are getting very frustrated with the secrecy of the next film...

No, they're not.

Fact is, most of those people aren't even aware yet that there's going to be another Star Trek movie, and won't be until six months before release, when the theatrical trailers go out. That's how regular people find out about upcoming movies.

Super 8 didn't set any records, but it did decent numbers at the box office. The people who were the audience for the movie knew enough to decide whether or not they wanted to see it.

Why?

Sorry, IMDb discussion threads tend to be only slightly above YouTube comments, as far as their value as a gauge of anything useful is concerned. TrekMovie comments are better, but there's still a lot of noise and clutter which can be disregarded.

Nonsense. It's doing no such thing.

It's been working just fine for him. Why would he change?

Which is not the reason. You just made that up.


By the way, 1bulma1, how's that blog of yours coming? You know, the blog for posting hysterical outbursts such as the one I see at the beginning of this thread?

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Wow, what an incredibly childish thing to say. I hope you were being facetious.

Please don't feed. It only encourages him to post more of the same drivel.

I respectfully disagree with most of the things you said. however i do know that people are very frustrated at the fact that we dont know who cummberbath is playing or who the villain is.

I am very certain of this.

Sorry if you mistakes my opinions as outbust.

Sure there's a few who are frustrated, you can see that, without leaving this site, there's, I believe 4 or 5 people who have posted their frustration about not knowing everything yet (or really, anything for that matter). But, ya know, there's gonna probably be about 10 Million folks who watch this movie, and those frustrated folks probably total up to about 1,000 (or maybe 5,000), and they'll go see the movie anyways, wether they are frustrated right now or not (Unless they have no intention to see it under any circumstances).

So, what you're saying is, Bad Robot, should cater to those 1000 or 5000 folks and give them their spoilers, and to heck with the other 9,999,000 folks (or 9,995,000) and the Heck with what Bad Robot believes preserves the integrity of the "first Time Viewing"

2000 comments, almost certainly isn't anywhere near 2000 people commenting. And... Debating and theorizing about the back and forth, is not proof of frustration that is "definitely" going to damage the revenue stream for the movie. in fact, it's free marketing, keeping us obsessives hyped and excited/anxious for the movie, and in no way is going to prevent any of us from seeing the movie

 

[Avon]

Re: The media and movie fans starting to lose interest in Star Trek (2

hypothetically now bulma, if they announced cumberbatch was playing khan, what would you do with this information?

would you be happy?

would it make you think 'my life is fulfilled, i shall now turn my computer off, go lie in a meadow in silence for all eternity'? because i wish you would

 

[M'Sharak]

Re: The media and movie fans starting to lose interest in Star Trek (2

I respectfully disagree with most of the things you said. however i do know that people are very frustrated at the fact that we dont know who cummberbath is playing or who the villain is.

Which people? Who are they? And why is it so crucially important that they know all this months in advance of the movie's release? Why do they believe that they're owed this?

What's wrong with waiting until the filmmakers are good and ready to let them know? What's wrong with waiting until they actually watch the movie for the first time? What is so wrong about being surprised by one's entertainment?

One would think these hypothetical people never watch a movie or read a book if they don't already know every last thing that's going to happen. How dull that must be.

Yes, I'm sure you are.

Sorry if you mistakes my opinions as outbust.

Oh, there's no mistake. Now, about that blog...

the people consists of the fans on trekmovie.com who commented 2000+ times about whether khan is the villain or not.

here is the link

http://trekmovie.com/2012/04/30/major-star-trek-sequel-spoilers-confirmed/

Am guessing this article set a new record for having the most fan comments on any trek article.

And what where people arguing about?

IS KHAN? OR WAIT ITS NOT? O WAIT IT IS, BUT HE IS PROBABLY GOOD IN THIS TIMELINE...BLAH BLAH BLAH.


JJ should just tells us already....That all am saying.

Yes, that is all you're saying. That's what this whole thread is about: you stamping your textual foot and saying "I don't want to wait. I want to know now, so J.J. should tell me now!"

None of that other stuff—about lots of people being frustrated or about box office returns being affected by the filmmakers' unwillingness to tell all—none of that holds any water. This thread is about you pitching a tantrum, and that is all it's about.

I've spoken to you about this sort of thing before, too: here, here, here. Like this one, those threads should all have been blog entries. Anything which is just you venting about something or being impatient about something or vaguely declaiming about something without really being interested in discussing it rationally with others... all of those things should go in a blog.

Now, if you come up with a topic of some substance - one which you are interested in discussing with other people with an idea toward hearing their ideas and perhaps being open to changing your mind about the topic after having heard those ideas, then that's the kind of thing you should post here. For all the ones I've linked above, and anything like them - where you're just complaining or venting or saying that "so-and-so needs to do such-and-such in order to make you happy" and you're not listening to anyone ... that's for the blog, and only for the blog.

This is the last reminder about this I'm going to give you. If I see another such peevishly bloggy tantrum from you in this forum, it will earn you a warning. I don't know how I can possibly make it any clearer to you than that.

why bother going to see a film where you know everything in advance?

seems like a hellishly retarded thing to do

hypothetically now bulma, if they announced cumberbatch was playing khan, what would you do with this information?

would you be happy?

would it make you think 'my life is fulfilled, i shall now turn my computer off, go lie in a meadow in silence for all eternity'? because i wish you would

(emphasis mine)

junxon, that's not helping, and I'd prefer not to see you making any more posts taunting or insulting other posters.


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