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The media and movie fans starting to lose interest in Star Trek (2013)

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I'm quite happy for the secrecy myself.

Much like with The Hobbit, I fully intend to see the film when it comes out unless it's somehow considered a total disaster. As that's the case, I would much rather enjoy seeing the film without knowing what I'm walking into. A trailer or two might be acceptable, though I'd be just as happy not even being exposed to those beforehand.

While the trailer for The Hobbit was incredible, I find it kind of sad knowing that I won't get to experience those scenes for the first time in the context of the film.


I dont think its fair to compare 2013 trek with the hobbit based on the following reasons

1. the hobbit is only 4-5 months away
2. its based on a book
3. the full trailer is already out
 
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And, yea, if you start marketing and spilling details this early on, to the general public, by the time the movie does come out, it'll be old hat and the excitement will have already petered itself.

That's a very good point. You don't want people to be sick and tired of hearing about the movie by the time it finally hits the theaters, which is a very real danger.

"You mean that hasn't even opened yet? I thought it had already come and gone. Seems like I've been hearing about it forever . . . . ."

(I swear to God, I've heard those very sentiments from friends and relatives, more than once.)
 
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:lol:

Not only that, but bulma argued the exact opposite about secrecy being a good and reasonable thing to do for the production and that fanboys were ridiculous to demand more informations... mere two months ago. :lol:



There are different kinds of secrecy. I don’t support movies or photos of a film been leaked online without the director and producers permission, which was what happened in January when we saw the pictures of Spock and Uhura fighting Cumberbath's character. JJ had to put canopies around the set to keep the public's eye out

however I don’t support everything being so hush Hush that people begin to get frustrated and lose interest.

BIG DIFFERENCE LOVE.
 
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Re: The media and movie fans starting to lose interest in Star Trek (2

Urban just said something that could reveal the identity of the villain and all media and all fansites reported the rumor. Is this losing interest?
 
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:lol:

Not only that, but bulma argued the exact opposite about secrecy being a good and reasonable thing to do for the production and that fanboys were ridiculous to demand more informations... mere two months ago. :lol:
There are different kinds of secrecy. I don’t support movies or photos of a film been licked online without the director and producers permission, which was what happened in January when we saw the pictures of Spock and Uhura fighting Cumberbath character. JJ had to put canopies around the set to keep the public's eye out

however I don’t support everything being so hush Hush that people begin to get frustrated and lose interest.

BIG DIFFERENCE LOVE.
Nice backpedalling. And you don't get to call me "love", except if you buy me dinner. And make it a good dinner.
 
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A lot of people including the core trek fans are getting very frustrated with the secrecy of the next film...
No, they're not.

...and I have a feeling that the media and people who were not trek fans but enjoyed the 09 film are starting to lose interest in the 2013 film
Fact is, most of those people aren't even aware yet that there's going to be another Star Trek movie, and won't be until six months before release, when the theatrical trailers go out. That's how regular people find out about upcoming movies.

It’s like Super 8 all over again. JJ was so obsessed with keeping the details of that movie tight lip that it affected its box office returns.

Despite super 8 being a very good film a lot of people didn’t see it because they didn’t know enough about it.
Super 8 didn't set any records, but it did decent numbers at the box office. The people who were the audience for the movie knew enough to decide whether or not they wanted to see it.

Star Trek 2013 is coming out in 11 months....we should know the title of the film and who the villain is by now.
Why?

it’s my opinion... however anytime I go on a trek board like imdb.com/untitled star trek sequel and trekmovie.com. A lot of people who post on that board are getting fed up with all the secrecy.
Sorry, IMDb discussion threads tend to be only slightly above YouTube comments, as far as their value as a gauge of anything useful is concerned. TrekMovie comments are better, but there's still a lot of noise and clutter which can be disregarded.

Believe me this secrecy is hurting the film.
Nonsense. It's doing no such thing.

I love JJ abrmas as an artist and a visionary but the dude needs to lighten up.
It's been working just fine for him. Why would he change?

Star Trek couldn’t even be at comic-con because everything is still HUSH HUSH.
Which is not the reason. You just made that up.


By the way, 1bulma1, how's that blog of yours coming? You know, the blog for posting hysterical outbursts such as the one I see at the beginning of this thread?

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Let's be honest, all of us impatient trekbbs regulars are going to see the movie regardless

On free TV. With commercials so I have some time to throw up.
Wow, what an incredibly childish thing to say. I hope you were being facetious.
Please don't feed. It only encourages him to post more of the same drivel.
 
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I don't really care if there are sneak peaks or a plethora of advanced looks at the script. They can keep their secrets, it matters not. All that matters is, there will be another film and that I'll go see it.
You all know it will be good. :D
 
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It’s like Super 8 all over again. JJ was so obsessed with keeping the details of that movie tight lip that it affected its box office returns.

Super 8 was neither a pre-sold property, nor a film with identifiable stars. It grossed just short of $260 million worldwide, against a $50 million budget. I don't think anyone is complaining about it's box office performance at Paramount or at Bad Robot.
 
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By the way, this film will be part of the Abramsverse, so it doesn't REALLY matter anyway.;)
Does to me.

l know. Me too. l was just being sarcastic.

When it comes to Trek, l'll take what l can get these days.
Don't dismiss your comment so quickly. I think you've touched upon something. Until the Abramsverse reaches the sort of rich and extensive content held in the REAL Star Trek universe, this may emerge to be the general consensus, especially if it's limited to, ending with, this trilogy - a disposable Trek.

I rather have this same view of the snuff film they called Alien 3 (Newt, Hicks, Bishop, Ripley); It doesn't exist in my reality and doesn't matter. Then there are all the recent trends of reboot (a stupid, stupid term made possible only by the computer age) or re-imaginings (also a stupid term & concept) of franchises like Batman and Spiderman. It's just more content that will be thrown away with the next incarnation like so much consumed trash.

Except for amateurish mistakes of excessive lens flare, I liked Abrams Star Trek movie, though destroying Vulcan fell into the cliche of more snuff material - you can make thing seriouss without snuffing the life out of your franchise (think Kirk in Generations). But that doesn't change the how things have become so disposable in life along with "reboot" technology in general that lasts about three years or until the day after the warranty expires.
 
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I'm quite happy for the secrecy myself.

Much like with The Hobbit, I fully intend to see the film when it comes out unless it's somehow considered a total disaster. As that's the case, I would much rather enjoy seeing the film without knowing what I'm walking into. A trailer or two might be acceptable, though I'd be just as happy not even being exposed to those beforehand.

While the trailer for The Hobbit was incredible, I find it kind of sad knowing that I won't get to experience those scenes for the first time in the context of the film.


I dont think its fair to compare 2013 trek with the hobbit based on the following reasons

1. the hobbit is only 4-5 months away
2. its based on a book
3. the full trailer is already out

I'm not clear as to how your reasons impact my argument. For what I said, all that seems pertinent is that I highly anticipate both films and wish to know as little as possible about either one in advance. I'm reasonably certain there are others who feel the same way. Heck, I'll post a poll if you'd like.

When one or the other is coming out, whether or not they're based on a book/existing franchise, and whether or not a trailer is currently available seem immaterial to my concerns.
 
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A lot of people including the core trek fans are getting very frustrated with the secrecy of the next film...
No, they're not.

...and I have a feeling that the media and people who were not trek fans but enjoyed the 09 film are starting to lose interest in the 2013 film
Fact is, most of those people aren't even aware yet that there's going to be another Star Trek movie, and won't be until six months before release, when the theatrical trailers go out. That's how regular people find out about upcoming movies.

Super 8 didn't set any records, but it did decent numbers at the box office. The people who were the audience for the movie knew enough to decide whether or not they wanted to see it.

Why?

Sorry, IMDb discussion threads tend to be only slightly above YouTube comments, as far as their value as a gauge of anything useful is concerned. TrekMovie comments are better, but there's still a lot of noise and clutter which can be disregarded.

Nonsense. It's doing no such thing.

It's been working just fine for him. Why would he change?

Which is not the reason. You just made that up.


By the way, 1bulma1, how's that blog of yours coming? You know, the blog for posting hysterical outbursts such as the one I see at the beginning of this thread?

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On free TV. With commercials so I have some time to throw up.
Wow, what an incredibly childish thing to say. I hope you were being facetious.
Please don't feed. It only encourages him to post more of the same drivel.


I respectfully disagree with most of the things you said. however i do know that people are very frustrated at the fact that we dont know who cummberbath is playing or who the villain is.

I am very certain of this.

Sorry if you mistakes my opinions as outbust.
 
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