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The Matrix Revolutions

^^ I understood it as he can see through the code (which we saw endlessly in the sequels) but not really manipulate the very matter of the Matrix. However he DID alter "reality" when he resurrected Trinity. You could also argue he did this when he deactivated Sentinels in the real world. The problem with the rave scene is just it just goes on and on at a point where there hadn't been any action for quite some time, plus I didn't feel the graphic sex scene needed to be in there. If they had just had the dancing starting then cut away to Neo having the vision it would have been enough. I get that it was supposed to be a 'celebration of life' and all but I just wish it wasn't in there.
 
^^ I understood it as he can see through the code (which we saw endlessly in the sequels) but not really manipulate the very matter of the Matrix. However he DID alter "reality" when he resurrected Trinity.

Did he, though? It's not as if he switched a switch from dead to alive. He removed the bullet and restarted her heart with an electrical impulse--basically, surgery without tools. It's a more subtle, perhaps more refined, use of his abilities, but consistent with his ability to adjust his own biology.

The problem with the rave scene is just it just goes on and on at a point where there hadn't been any action for quite some time, plus I didn't feel the graphic sex scene needed to be in there.

Your edition has a graphic sex scene? Which version is that in, then? All mine has is your typical Hollywood-chaste long-shot and 'judicious' close-ups.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
 
The problem with the rave scene is just it just goes on and on at a point where there hadn't been any action for quite some time, plus I didn't feel the graphic sex scene needed to be in there.
Your edition has a graphic sex scene? Which version is that in, then? All mine has is your typical Hollywood-chaste long-shot and 'judicious' close-ups.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

I was wondering about the 'graphic sex scene' comment myself....

Is there an NC-17 version out there somewhere?

Boomshakawowow....:lol:
 
It looks like I'm in the minority, but I enjoyed all three movies of the trilogy very much. Revolutions defied a lot of expectations, and it was not what some wanted after the action-fest of Reloaded. I recommend that people give the sequels another try and watch them on a symbolic level, not a literal one.
 
It looks like I'm in the minority, but I enjoyed all three movies of the trilogy very much. Revolutions defied a lot of expectations, and it was not what some wanted after the action-fest of Reloaded. I recommend that people give the sequels another try and watch them on a symbolic level, not a literal one.

For me, it's precisely ON the allegorical/symbolic level that Revolutions falls down so much compared to Reloaded. Reloaded has so many interesting concepts brought into play and Revolutions junks most of them in favour of a much more straightforward Christ/questing type story.
 
Thinking about Revolutions still makes me grumpy. I'm willing to excuse sloppy plotting if a movie has interesting ideas, I'll tolerate bad science if the characters are interesting. But Rvolutions failed on so many levels, simultaneously. I can't recall being more disappointed in a movie.

The Good: The defense of Zion was okay, though the engineer in me gritted my teeth when I saw those battlesuits (yeah, we're facing giant metal squids with lots of tentacles, let's make it an open frame design.)

The Bad: It's a three way tie between killing off Trinity after Neo dramatically saved her (in their timeline) a few days earlier, the Oracle's New Agey "explanation" of how Neo affects machines outside the Matrix, and the final battle where two guys with control over the Matrix's code settle matters by, essentially, punching each other really hard. Ugh.

The WTF?: The little program who makes sunrises, whose parents wanted to send her away to protect her. Awwww... wait, what?
 
I never liked the open frame design of the suits myself. I know Zion is supposed to be the underdog, yet they have enough resources to maintain a basic society and they have a fleet of relatively advanced hoverships - ones that at least can offer a good defense against a group of Sentinels before they'd lose to sheer numbers. So why do the battle suits seem so primitive?
 
Well, to follow the logic of all the other stuff in the films, because that's just the way it's supposed to be.
 
I mostly enjoyed Reloaded when it first came out, but I realized I wasn't all that interested in Matrix movies that had essentially turned into yet another Epic Quest Trilogy - was far more fond of the relatively isolated cyberpunk feel of the first one. So, though I went to the theater the weekend Revolutions came out, I instead decided to go see Looney Tunes: Back In Action next door.

As far as I'm still concerned, it was the better bang for my entertainment buck.:techman:
 
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