When the master was first introduced,he was on his final regenerative,then he stolen that body in the keeper of traken,when he was brought back he was differnt again,did he steal a other body or found a way to regenenerate again?.
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He said the Time Lords resurrected him or something. To fight the Time War. It's in the Two Parter Sound of Drums or whatever.
Actually, when he was first introduced, we don't know if he was in his last regeneration or not. I'm thinking of the Master who fought Pertwee. It could've been a regeneration or two later when he stole the body in Keeper.
In the 1996 movie, his essence possessed a human body, which was then sucked into the Eye Of Harmony.
In nuWho, we found out the Time Lords had resurrected him again, complete with a new "set" of regenerations, to fight in the time war. He then scarpered to the end of the universe (surprised he didn't get a job in the restaurant there).
Then in Last Of The Time Lords, he died and refused to regenerate. Or so we thought.
Then another "resurrection" from the essence in the ring at the beginning of The End Of Time.
Then got sucked back into the time war with Rassilon at the end of The End Of Time.
In nuWho, we found out the Time Lords had resurrected him again, complete with a new "set" of regenerations, to fight in the time war. He then scarpered to the end of the universe (surprised he didn't get a job in the restaurant there).
Then in Last Of The Time Lords, he died and refused to regenerate. Or so we thought.
Then another "resurrection" from the essence in the ring at the beginning of The End Of Time.
Then got sucked back into the time war with Rassilon at the end of The End Of Time.
TARDIS wiki does seem to feel that Roger Delgado was the 12th Master, to account for the Master seen in The Deadly Assassin being the 13th. Anthony Ainley is considered to be the 14th, Gordon Tipple (from the telemovie's opening scene) the 15th, Eric Roberts the 16th, Derek Jacobi the 17th and John Simm the 18th.
Of course, this is speculative on the Wiki's part and not to be considered canon in any way.
EDIT: It seems in my haste I did not read the OP properly enough and this post isn't really answering the question. Oh well, this is kind of related to the subject so I'll leave it here anyway.
Of course, this is speculative on the Wiki's part and not to be considered canon in any way.
EDIT: It seems in my haste I did not read the OP properly enough and this post isn't really answering the question. Oh well, this is kind of related to the subject so I'll leave it here anyway.
This raises an interesting point. It's always seemed, to me at least, that the Master and the Doctor are contemporaries, yet is the Master was on his 12th incarnation when the Doctor was on his third can this really be the case? This would seem to indicate he's led a far more fraught existence than the Doctor, which given that he's evil and not wont to throw himself in the path of danger for anyone in the way the Doctor is it seems odd that the Doctor's led a safer existence.
Of course this relies on them actually being contemporaries.
Of course this relies on them actually being contemporaries.
David's own The Dark Path.
The CGI image of the Master in that device that disintegrated him looked like Ainley (somewhat). Plus Tipple only did a voice-over, maybe because Ainley didn't want to.
So I really don't see Tipple as another incarnation.
Also, I always thought of the "emaciated" Master of Deadly Assassin as a decayed version of Delgado, because he couldn't regenerate anymore.
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Doesn't contemporary lose meaning once time travel is involved? Why do we assume every time the Master and the Doctor meet the same amount of time has passed for both?
^ That wasn't the case in the season three closing arc, as 18 months more had passed for the Master on Earth; enough time for him to build a life as Harold Saxon. I remember not liking that, as it had seemed to me that the passage of time was synchronised between Time Lords. (As an example, the Doctor knew the Rani's exact age in Time And The Rani. Then again, the Master knew the Doctor's approximate age in the season three storyline. Maybe they are normally synchronised by Time Lord machines but non-Tuime Lord devices like Jack's vortex manipulator aren't included.)
17 or 18 regens in about 900 years is really not bad at all. The Deadly Assassin (novelisation at least) mentions that he burned through them, using accelerated regeneration as disguise. Also, the Master isn't quite as awesone as the Doctor, who has pwned his sorry hide about two dozen apparently consecutive times that we know of.
17 or 18 regens in about 900 years is really not bad at all. The Deadly Assassin (novelisation at least) mentions that he burned through them, using accelerated regeneration as disguise. Also, the Master isn't quite as awesone as the Doctor, who has pwned his sorry hide about two dozen apparently consecutive times that we know of.
The Master being resurrected to fight in the Time War is first mentioned in the essay RTD wrote for one of the Doctor Who annuals.
The Master always finds a way to survive.....
Dis be true. I have known this simple fact since childhood.
The only real question is when will he turn up again and in what form. And how will he play when up against the Smith Doctor?
I think we need the Rani, in my opinion like the Daleks the Master has been a little overused.
2 appearances in 6 series' isn't quite as overused as the Daleks.
But I agree, the Rani could be fun.
Though, she didn't appear as many times as the Master overall, would it be as impactful to have her return if she were played by a new actress?
Also, how did she escape the Time War, or avoid it?
I can't imagine she would've allowed herself to be dragged into it. The Master, would've been easy for the Timelords to recruit for the new set of Regenerations, the Rani, I would imagine would stay far away. I'd love to see her character revived.
I'd be OK with another Master appearance, but, I'd prefer a portrayal more in line with the Classic Masters, Delgado or Ainley. Simm was OK, but, not my preference for portrayal of the Master.
