Understood.
In fairness, the "relax cupcake" was also a joke, directly quoting Kirk from Star Trek 2009.
Humor doesn't translate so well in writing I guess.
The Master List: Favorite ST Movies and TV Shows in Order!
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Understood.
In fairness, the "relax cupcake" was also a joke, directly quoting Kirk from Star Trek 2009.
Humor doesn't translate so well in writing I guess.
NCC-1701. The Original Series
A. Deep Space Nine
B. Enterprise
C. The Next Generation
D. Voyager
Z. The Animated Series
1. The Undiscovered Country
2. The Wrath of Khan & The Search for Spock (tie)
3. First Contact
4. The Voyage Home
5. Star Trek (2009) & Star Trek Into Darkness (tie)
6. Nemesis
7. Generations
8. The Motion Picture
9. The Final Frontier
10. Insurrection
A. Deep Space Nine
B. Enterprise
C. The Next Generation
D. Voyager
Z. The Animated Series
1. The Undiscovered Country
2. The Wrath of Khan & The Search for Spock (tie)
3. First Contact
4. The Voyage Home
5. Star Trek (2009) & Star Trek Into Darkness (tie)
6. Nemesis
7. Generations
8. The Motion Picture
9. The Final Frontier
10. Insurrection
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Understood.
In fairness, the "relax cupcake" was also a joke, directly quoting Kirk from Star Trek 2009.
Humor doesn't translate so well in writing I guess.
No biggie.
Thanks.
I think you can argue II, IV, VI, or FC for best overall. I mean all four of those movies are A+ in my book. It's hard to put one over the other. When it comes to Star Trek I used to not get why people liked TESB most, but now I sort of get it, and I am not sure now if that one is my favorite.
I really think no odd numbered Trek belongs above an even one generally, at least for the original 10.
I really think no odd numbered Trek belongs above an even one generally, at least for the original 10.
Movies
1. First Contact
2. The Wrath of Khan
3. Star Trek
4. The Undiscovered Country
5. Into Darkness
6. The Voyage Home
7. Generations
8. The Search for Spock
9. Nemesis
10. Insurrection
11. The Final Frontier
12. The Motion Picture
TV Shows
1. Deep Space Nine
2. The Next Generation
3. Enterprise
4. Star Trek
5. Voyager
1. First Contact
2. The Wrath of Khan
3. Star Trek
4. The Undiscovered Country
5. Into Darkness
6. The Voyage Home
7. Generations
8. The Search for Spock
9. Nemesis
10. Insurrection
11. The Final Frontier
12. The Motion Picture
TV Shows
1. Deep Space Nine
2. The Next Generation
3. Enterprise
4. Star Trek
5. Voyager
I dispute your opinion
I love The Final Frontier. Great movie.
TOS
TNG
TAS
DS9
VOY
ENT
TMP
TWOK
STB
STXI
TVH
TSFS
STFC
STID
TUC
STV
GEN
INS
NEM
TNG
TAS
DS9
VOY
ENT
TMP
TWOK
STB
STXI
TVH
TSFS
STFC
STID
TUC
STV
GEN
INS
NEM
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I dispute your opinion
I love The Final Frontier. Great movie.
Same here. TFF was 4th on my list, while TUC and TVH come in 7th and 9th respectively.
movies:
1. The Motion Picture
2. The Undiscovered Country
3. Wrath of Khan
4. Beyond {based on all I have seen and read}
5. Into Darkness
6. Star Trek 2009
7. The Final Frontier
8. Search for Spock
9. The Voyage Home
10. Nemesis
11. First Contact
12. Generations
13. Insurrection
television series actually my preferences are identical to their order of debuts :
1. TOS
2. TAS
3. NG
4. DS9
5. Voyager
6. Enterprise
1. The Motion Picture
2. The Undiscovered Country
3. Wrath of Khan
4. Beyond {based on all I have seen and read}
5. Into Darkness
6. Star Trek 2009
7. The Final Frontier
8. Search for Spock
9. The Voyage Home
10. Nemesis
11. First Contact
12. Generations
13. Insurrection
television series actually my preferences are identical to their order of debuts :
1. TOS
2. TAS
3. NG
4. DS9
5. Voyager
6. Enterprise
I liked TUC and TVH more but I still love TFF. I really don't get the hatred for this movie. There were episodes of the tv show just as silly. It's still a fun movie. Any chance to see the original cast together with their amazing chemistry is a joy for me. I would watch 2-6 a thousand times over. TMP was too boring for words and the chemistry wasn't quite right so I don't mind skipping it. Anything with Shatner as Kirk, Nimoy as Spock and Kelly as Bones makes it more enticing for me than the TNG movies or the new Trek movies.
From my movie forum ranking:
STIII will always leave me with the internal struggle because it's a fun film...an enjoyable film, possibly underrated too, but I also dislike some things enough to ruin the experience for me to a degree, such as the Vulcan "souls" and the entire katra ritual. The TV film mentality continues. ILM does a great job with what it had to work with, but only 120 or so FX.
STTMP is also a quandary. I have some nostalgia associated with it, despite not being overly impressed with it as a kid. I enjoyed it better when I bought it on VHS, then was down on it till the Director's Cut. I recently re-watched it on probably the biggest tv screen I've watched it on, and even with the DC I could see lots of flaws. I even almost fell asleep like I did when I was younger. Now of course, there is a germ of a fantastic tale here, but ultimately it wasn't told. So this one has fallen down my list again.
STVI This one has suffered the most to time in my opinion. It's not a bad film, but it's tepid and timid partly due to it's budget. It looks flat, and the some of the model work is sub-par. It had a third of the FX that best of Both Worlds did on TV around the same period(51 to 160). By this point STNG was telling better stories than this warmed over and obvious cold war allegory.
STV You can't make a worse Trek film than this. It'll never happen. Anyone who enjoyed a Trek movie less than this is totally fine to think so, but they'll still never surpass the sheer ineptitude of this movie, in script, production, FX, and leadership. Lest you think this movie was low budget, it cost more than any other film not called STTMP until First Contact. This movie was nominated for worst film of 1989 as well as worst film of the decade.
Generations: A very flawed movie. Not without some good moments, but to think this came out in 1994 at STNG's peak is just kind of sad. This is one of only two Trek movies I think are outright "bad".
Insurrection: I've shared my feelings before. It's major flaw is TV mentality, scale and a story that plays it safe. It's story is straightforward, competent but not engrossing. On the positive side, it's outdoor cinematography is fantastic.
ST09: Now this is more like it. The studio hired professionals and spent some money. It's a movie! This movie is just about impervious to criticism. It scored 95% from critics and almost as much from movie goers. It's been nominated for 107 awards and won 29 of them. It's responsible for Trek's first Oscar, and it's first cinematic Writer's Guild award nomination for original script. It's fantastic from the teaser, to opening titles to the ending credits. Are there flaws? Maybe a few small ones, but they are overpowered by sheer adventure.
STID: This movie is chock full of character moments, political commentary and kinetic action. It ups the ante for Trek films to follow with it's scale. It's opening scene, while perhaps less dramatic than ST09, is the most exploration and adventure we've had in any Trek movie. The Klingon surface sequence is easily Trek's best action sequence in history. One of the early reviews for this film called it: "one of the best looking technological films ever seen." At one point I probably thought the topical complexity made it the best Trek film, but in retrospect, ST09 is a more entertaining film by a hair or 3.
I'm vowing to keep this list the same till the new movie comes out.
1. ST09
2. STID
3. STII
4. STFC
5. STIV
6. STNEM
7. STIII
8. STVI
9. STINS
10. STTMP
11. STGEN
12. STV
For comparison, the criticial, and fan rankings:
Not counting Beyond:
The rank on RT:
1. ST09
2. STFC
3. STII
4. STID
5. STIV
Metacritic
1. ST09
2. STID
3. STII
4. STFC
STIII will always leave me with the internal struggle because it's a fun film...an enjoyable film, possibly underrated too, but I also dislike some things enough to ruin the experience for me to a degree, such as the Vulcan "souls" and the entire katra ritual. The TV film mentality continues. ILM does a great job with what it had to work with, but only 120 or so FX.
STTMP is also a quandary. I have some nostalgia associated with it, despite not being overly impressed with it as a kid. I enjoyed it better when I bought it on VHS, then was down on it till the Director's Cut. I recently re-watched it on probably the biggest tv screen I've watched it on, and even with the DC I could see lots of flaws. I even almost fell asleep like I did when I was younger. Now of course, there is a germ of a fantastic tale here, but ultimately it wasn't told. So this one has fallen down my list again.
STVI This one has suffered the most to time in my opinion. It's not a bad film, but it's tepid and timid partly due to it's budget. It looks flat, and the some of the model work is sub-par. It had a third of the FX that best of Both Worlds did on TV around the same period(51 to 160). By this point STNG was telling better stories than this warmed over and obvious cold war allegory.
STV You can't make a worse Trek film than this. It'll never happen. Anyone who enjoyed a Trek movie less than this is totally fine to think so, but they'll still never surpass the sheer ineptitude of this movie, in script, production, FX, and leadership. Lest you think this movie was low budget, it cost more than any other film not called STTMP until First Contact. This movie was nominated for worst film of 1989 as well as worst film of the decade.
Generations: A very flawed movie. Not without some good moments, but to think this came out in 1994 at STNG's peak is just kind of sad. This is one of only two Trek movies I think are outright "bad".
Insurrection: I've shared my feelings before. It's major flaw is TV mentality, scale and a story that plays it safe. It's story is straightforward, competent but not engrossing. On the positive side, it's outdoor cinematography is fantastic.
ST09: Now this is more like it. The studio hired professionals and spent some money. It's a movie! This movie is just about impervious to criticism. It scored 95% from critics and almost as much from movie goers. It's been nominated for 107 awards and won 29 of them. It's responsible for Trek's first Oscar, and it's first cinematic Writer's Guild award nomination for original script. It's fantastic from the teaser, to opening titles to the ending credits. Are there flaws? Maybe a few small ones, but they are overpowered by sheer adventure.
STID: This movie is chock full of character moments, political commentary and kinetic action. It ups the ante for Trek films to follow with it's scale. It's opening scene, while perhaps less dramatic than ST09, is the most exploration and adventure we've had in any Trek movie. The Klingon surface sequence is easily Trek's best action sequence in history. One of the early reviews for this film called it: "one of the best looking technological films ever seen." At one point I probably thought the topical complexity made it the best Trek film, but in retrospect, ST09 is a more entertaining film by a hair or 3.
I'm vowing to keep this list the same till the new movie comes out.
1. ST09
2. STID
3. STII
4. STFC
5. STIV
6. STNEM
7. STIII
8. STVI
9. STINS
10. STTMP
11. STGEN
12. STV
For comparison, the criticial, and fan rankings:
Not counting Beyond:
The rank on RT:
1. ST09
2. STFC
3. STII
4. STID
5. STIV
Metacritic
1. ST09
2. STID
3. STII
4. STFC
Movies
1. The Wrath of Khan
2. First Contact
3. Star Trek (2009)
4. The Undiscovered Country
5. The Search for Spock
6. The Voyage Home
7. The Motion Picture
8. Generations
9. Into Darkness
10. The Final Frontier
11. Nemesis
12. Insurrection
(I've not included Beyond yet as I've not seen it)
TV Series
1. The Next Generation
2. Star Trek
3. Deep Space Nine
4. Enterprise
5. The Animated Series
6. Voyager
To be honest, I don't hate any of the series or films, so these are in order of how much I enjoy them overall.
1. The Wrath of Khan
2. First Contact
3. Star Trek (2009)
4. The Undiscovered Country
5. The Search for Spock
6. The Voyage Home
7. The Motion Picture
8. Generations
9. Into Darkness
10. The Final Frontier
11. Nemesis
12. Insurrection
(I've not included Beyond yet as I've not seen it)
TV Series
1. The Next Generation
2. Star Trek
3. Deep Space Nine
4. Enterprise
5. The Animated Series
6. Voyager
To be honest, I don't hate any of the series or films, so these are in order of how much I enjoy them overall.
1. First Contact
2. Wrath of Khan
3. Voyage Home
4. Star Trek into Darkness
5. Star Trek 09
6. The Undiscovered Country
7. Generations
8. Nemesis
9. Final Frontier
10. Search For Spock
11. The Motion Pciture
12. Insurrection
Series:
1. DS9
2. TNG
3. TOS
4. Voyager
5. Enterprise (would've been a lot higher if it had more seasons like the 4th)
6. TAS
2. Wrath of Khan
3. Voyage Home
4. Star Trek into Darkness
5. Star Trek 09
6. The Undiscovered Country
7. Generations
8. Nemesis
9. Final Frontier
10. Search For Spock
11. The Motion Pciture
12. Insurrection
Series:
1. DS9
2. TNG
3. TOS
4. Voyager
5. Enterprise (would've been a lot higher if it had more seasons like the 4th)
6. TAS
I just saw Beyond, so I'm updating the list:
TV Shows:
1. TNG
2. DS9
3. TOS
4. VOY
5. ENT
Movies:
1. TWOK
2.TUC
3. Beyond
4. First Contact
5. TSFS
6. Generations
7. TVH
8. Into Darkness
9. Nemesis
10. TFF
11. TMP
12. Insurrection
13. Star Trek 09
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