Spoilers The Marvels grade and discussion

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by The Scrooge Doctor, Nov 6, 2023.

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How do you rate The Marvels?

  1. A+

    2.6%
  2. A

    23.7%
  3. A-

    26.3%
  4. B+

    23.7%
  5. B

    5.3%
  6. B-

    5.3%
  7. C+

    2.6%
  8. C

    0 vote(s)
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  9. C-

    10.5%
  10. D+

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. D

    0 vote(s)
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  12. D-

    0 vote(s)
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  13. F

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  1. The Scrooge Doctor

    The Scrooge Doctor Bah humbug! Premium Member

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    After a bumpy schedule, The Marvels finally comes out this week!

    Normally we would be getting the world premiere red carpet on Monday or so, but because of the actors' strike, I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't happen (the red carpet portion of it anyways). A quick Google search doesn't come up with anything. It's a real shame because I really wish Brie Larson, Teyonah Parris, and Iman Vellani were out there promoting the hell out of this film, not just on the red carpet, but on all of the talk shows and beyond.

    Regardless of the early box office predictions, I'm really looking for this film because it looks like a lot of fun.
     
  2. Rich Watson

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    Not only is there no Premiere, there's no publicity at all beyond adverts and trailers. Normally the Director steps in for the Actors during the strike but Nia DaCosta didn't even stick around to finish post-production, so she's nowhere to be seen.

    As the man in charge you'd think Kevin Feige would step up and be doing some publicity but I guess there's too many questions he wouldn't want to be asked right now. So instead it's just being sent out to die.
     
  3. Set Harth

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  4. Turtletrekker

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    Count me in as someone who gives zero fucks about box office performance. I'm not an opening weekend kind of guy anymore, but I will be at an early show the following Monday morning.
     
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  5. Saul

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    Thanks for the heads up. I had forgotten it was bumped up a week as I still have it coming out on the 10th in my diary. As others have said I'm not seeing much publicity for it which is a shame. Loki has gotten more publicity than The Marvels. Hopefully going to see this early next week whatever happens box office/review wise.
     
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  6. JD

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    I've been to seeing some TV commercials over the last couple weeks.

    Blade will be the second R-rated MCU movie after Deadpool 3. It will be interesting to see if they stick to that with all of the issues the movie has been having, and what sounds like a growing paranoia about the success of their movies. I have a feeling if Deadpool 3 isn't a huge hit, it could scare Marvel off from R-rated movies, and we could end up with a PG-13 version after all.
     
  7. The Scrooge Doctor

    The Scrooge Doctor Bah humbug! Premium Member

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    Uh-huh.

    Oops, silly facts get in the way:

    io9: Nia DaCosta Explains Why She Finished The Marvels Remotely

    But after the aside drew a wave of backlash condemning Variety’s framing of the decision—on what is not exactly an unusual move for a director committed to multiple projects—DaCosta herself has now clarified why she ended up finishing The Marvels’ production remotely.

    “It was literally just that they moved the date of the film four different times,” the director explained at a press junket for The Marvels this past weekend to Jake’s Takes. “So instead of it being a two year process, which I was deeply committed to, it became a three and a half year process.”

    DaCosta noted that she had already committed to production on Hedda—an adaptation of the Henrik Ibsen play about a woman trapped in a loveless marriage—and that Marvel were aware of that commitment as The Marvels repeatedly shifted dates. “I pushed [Hedda], and then I pushed it again, and then I pushed it again, and then eventually, we all knew ‘Okay, if this pushes again I’m not gonna able to be in L.A. to do the rest of [The Marvels] in person.’”

    “We figured out a way to do it remote,” the director continued, saying that she and Marvel “figured out the best process” for her to finish The Marvels remotely in the UK—and that really, at the point she had to leave the film was already so far along that the director and her crew were already aligned on the choices she wanted to make for the film.

    “Everyone was so clear about what the film was, what we wanted, everyone knew what I wanted,” DaCosta concluded. “So it really wasn’t the dramatic thing that I think people are sort of feeling it is.”
    In a separate io9 article: How Brie Larson's Captain Marvel Becomes a Mentor in The Marvels

    io9 recently sat down with The Marvels director Nia DaCosta (2021's Candyman) to talk about bringing Carol into the fold with Kamala and Monica, whose similarly sourced superpowers bring them together in this film’s Marvel spectacle.

    For DaCosta, it was something she and star Brie Larson were looking forward to tapping into. “Brie was so excited and a real advocate for bringing the two other women into the movie. And part of what I think works so well about it is that she has a foil. She finally has people who are, you know, heroes as well, and also having their own issues and issues with her or or a specific relationship with her that she has to sort out,” DaCosta said, noting importance of demystifying Carol by having her face her legacy with a new hero like Kamala, as well as her past with Monica.

    “We talked a lot about that dynamic, but also who she was when she’s not punching Thanos and running off,” DaCosta laughed, pointing out that at this point it’s a well-known fact that Carol keeps showing up, then blasting back off to her pad in space awaiting bigger galactic threats in order to stop them from reaching Earth. The film addresses that, the director explained. “The conversations are really just like, ‘Okay, who is she? How can her struggle holding the universe on her shoulders be something that can feel universal?’ For me, I think that a lot of women feel like they’re holding the world, their family, their job, everything on their shoulders. The thing that I come back to is how important family is to helping them get through that kind of burden. And so that’s the big theme in the movie. That’s something that Brie and I talked about as well.”​
     
  8. JoeZhang

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    There is a fairly desperate new trailer out which is worth avoiding as it has a couple of big spoilers in it.
     
  9. Rich Watson

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    When you have to start off with 20 seconds of Iron Man, Cap and Thanos you know you're in trouble. Plus they seem to have put in a shot from the mid-credits scene, which if you look closely confirms the rumours about what happens to Monica.

    Oh, and congrats to the director for getting some publicity out with four days to go. That'll move the needle.
     
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  10. StarMan

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    Oh, I didn't realise this was a direct continuation from Endgame ...

    Desperate times call for desperate nostalgia bait.
     
  11. Rich Watson

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    The rumours, which now look to be true are that
    the Incursion stuff only happens at the very end and that Monica ends up in the X-Men universe where she meets Dr Frazier Crane, sorry, The Beast. And if you look in the bottom right of the screen when the unshown person walks by her, you can see the X-Men symbol on the monitor.
     
  12. Starkers

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    Oddly DaCosta is probably the main reason I want to see this, I thought her direction in the Candyman sequel was superb.
     
  13. Tuskin38

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    Said unknown person appears to be wearing Binary’s costume from the comics. People are thinking they’re Monica’s mom from that alternate universe
     
  14. The Scrooge Doctor

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    Whereas I loved her work on Little Woods.
     
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  15. Mr. Adventure

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    It's the "Hey, remember these guys?!?" trailer.

     
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  17. Morpheus 02

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    Basically, this is a conglomeration of bad luck for the Marvels. We have the Actors Strike, which does not allow any of the actors to say anything...but through some weird clause, the Hunger Games prequel actors will be able to promote, and their movie premieres the very next week.

    Therefore, the director is really the main person who can actually promote the movie. It wouldn't be a big deal if the actors were out there...but now that both can't do it... it really hurts.In addition, i didn't realize that tickets were for sale for The Marvels until it was mentioned in TrekBBS' Marvel thread.

    Also, GMA3 had Nia DeCosta as well, but only in literally the last 5 minutes of the show, which i would think doesnt help the PR a lot either., as they are rishing to end.

    I will need to buy my tickets today.

    On a side note, the article referenced "Jakes Takes"... an celebrity interview segment by FOx 32 Chicago's entertainment reporter Jake Hamilton. I am curious if people outside of Chicago have seen his segments. He actually does some phenomenal interviews that ought to be syndicated.
     
  18. Mr. Adventure

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    Watching that final trailer again I would've just left it at Sam's final line, they didn't really need to show what happened next in the trailer.
     
  19. Morpheus 02

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    "Black girl Magic!" ???? Uhh...well, if we didn't have the director we do, i would have rolled my eyes a bit more.

    So, where did this trailer come from??? Feels like another mess up in the PR for this movie.
     
  20. Saul

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    Dear Drunk Saul,

    Don't forget to turn to the next page of your diary at the beginning of the week. It's still coming out on the 10th.

    Sincerely,

    Drunk Saul
     
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