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Man, that guy was a great comedian. His last movie was Men with Brooms, which was filmed in my area.

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Back to the election, I think it really pays to know who election candidates are, because the more you know about them, the more you know about their history and and are able make a more informed decision. Not knowing anything at all about a candidate would set off some red flags.

Just to show an example, we have an independent candidate that runs in every election at the local and federal levels. He's kind of like a perennial weed. He was formally convicted of hate speech after he went off on a tirade during a debate, and he's since been barred from participating in any further debates, yet he's still able to run, for whatever reason. He's kind of well-known in the community at this point. So at least we know of him enough to not vote for him.

As for our local PC Candidate, I've since learned that he and his family have owned one of the city's oldest pizzerias, and he seems to be quite a nice guy, so it's a real shame to see that the PC Party's mandate doesn't allow for candidates to connect with their community. That's the other loss via this tactic; if someone is known to have done something good via the community, then the tactic creates an unnecessary disconnect with their constituents. They can't even really take advantage of their good-standing, which then puts candidates at a disadvantage. Surely the party has thought it out better than that? Oh wait, Ford's in charge. Nevermind.
 
I had to stop and remember that your province still has a PC party. It's extinct in Alberta.
 
Is it? Is it because they all became potted plants?

Conservative leaders forbidding their candidates from speaking at forums wasn't a thing provincially here, at least while the Progressive Conservative party existed. I hated Ralph Klein, but he let his candidates speak. So did the others, up to the election of 2015, which Rachel Notley (NDP) won and Jim Prentice (PC) lost.

Fun fact: Jim Prentice pitched a Harper-type hissyfit at losing to Notley, and quit. As in he resigned as party leader and from the seat he'd just won on election night. He couldn't stand the thought of facing Rachel Notley across the floor, with her being the Premier and him no more than the Opposition leader. After all, he was the one who decided to get misogynistic with her, implying that "math is hard" and therefore beyond her capability to understand. Those three words cost him the election (and deservedly so).

And the most exasperating thing about that? He'd put the people of that riding through the extra expense of a byelection to win that seat in the first place, just 6 months before the provincial election. So even before all the votes were counted on election night, they had to be put on the list for ANOTHER byelection to be held in several months' time.

And then Jim Prentice died in a plane crash. I actually found that terribly amusing at the time, in a gallows humor way. I guess his family missed him. I don't think anyone else ever did.

Enter Jason Kenney, who in 2017 engineered the merger of the PCs and the Wildrose Party. The new party was named the United Conservative Party (UCP) and Kenney was the leader. In 2019 he won the election and we've been seeing the province go to hell ever since (Kenney was booted for not being extreme enough so now we have Smith, who used to be the leader of the aforementioned Wildrose Party). As far as I'm concerned, "UCP" stands for United Corruption Party. They are corrupt to the bone.
 
The funny thing about that is that I know of all those names even though I'm not from Alberta, so they've all left their mark in one way or another. Alberta has a way of being very vocal in a way that the entirety of Canada takes notice.

I appreciate your insight. I didn't realize the PC party had stopped being a thing in Alberta , but it does make sense that the Wild Rose party would have taken its place. But maybe you can tell me, how did the name come about? It's a curious name for a party that must have an interesting origin story.
 
The funny thing about that is that I know of all those names even though I'm not from Alberta, so they've all left their mark in one way or another. Alberta has a way of being very vocal in a way that the entirety of Canada takes notice.

I appreciate your insight. I didn't realize the PC party had stopped being a thing in Alberta , but it does make sense that the Wild Rose party would have taken its place. But maybe you can tell me, how did the name come about? It's a curious name for a party that must have an interesting origin story.

What have in happened in Alberta would be the same as the merger between reform part and the pc's federally - and very much for the worst.

also I think the wildrose is the provincial flower.
 
What have in happened in Alberta would be the same as the merger between reform part and the pc's federally - and very much for the worst.

also I think the wildrose is the provincial flower.
@Marc: I do not know if you have me on ignore, but in case you don't, I'd appreciate you not speaking for me. :vulcan:


Yes, the UCP came to exist as the Alberta version of Harper's "Unite the Right" movement.

Yes, the Wildrose Party was named for our provincial flower. Now every time I look at it I feel disgust, knowing that it's become a symbol of corruption.

The horror show just goes on. Danielle Smith hired Harper to oversee the provincial pension scheme for the public employees. It's a nightmare, as the teachers weren't consulted about their pensions, and all the UCP ministers and their unelected "consultants" want is to keep siphoning off as much money as they can. They've been pillaging the budgets for the social services and disability programs, not to mention removing some educational funding for cognitively impaired children. They underpay the educational assistants (the people who work with disabled kids in regular classrooms) to the point where they've been on strike for quite awhile now. It's like the government thinks the public school teachers are some weird cross between overpaid babysitters and LGBT groomers.

FFS, Kevin O'Leary wants to put in some AI mining thing up north, on FN land. The FN were offered a token online "consultation" of 30 minutes, and the Chief has pulled out, saying that's not what they were promised as far as consultation is concerned.

Smith can't wait to give coal mining rights to some greedy, anti-environment woman from Australia - in an environmentally sensitive area of the province, ignoring the fact that Southern Alberta has been in a drought situation for a long time.

Here's what happened earlier today at Adriana LaGrange's local office (which isn't far from where I live, though I wasn't there):

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Nothing like hundreds of thousands of dollars in improperly-awarded contracts, which Smith knew about (but is lying through her smirking face, even though part of the grift was premium seats at the NHL playoffs and there's a photo of Smith enjoying those premium seats).

LaGrange is utterly evil. Some people on the Reboot Alberta FB group are saying she's Danielle Smith's puppet. I don't agree. Yes, she's doing what Smith tells her to do, and says what she's told to say. But she's been happily complicit in so many UCP wrongdoings right from the get-go and even before, when she was on the Catholic school board here.

I just wish the sidewalk was bare. The people there could have left her chalked messages. She completely flips out over those, claiming that they're "illegal." It's actually not illegal to write on the sidewalk with chalk, providing it's not hate speech.

Personally, I'd toss LaGrange into a live volcano, if I didn't think the volcano would spit her out again.
 
@Marc: I do not know if you have me on ignore, but in case you don't, I'd appreciate you not speaking for me. :vulcan:

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The snap election has really not been well thought out. I've found out that until recently, our riding didn't have a local Liberal candidate in place, and one has only just been accepted with 10 days to go until the election. There's no way they can properly campaign with only 10 days to go, let alone enough time for people to get to know them. What a mess!
 
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The snap election has really not been well thought out. I've found out that until recently, our riding didn't have a local Liberal candidate in place, and one has only just been accepted with 10 days to go until the election. There's no way they can properly campaign with only 10 days to go, let alone enough time for people to get to know them. What a mess!

The snap election was called by the governing party. In their minds, the opposition parties being caught flat-footed is a feature, not a bug.

There are reasons that the campaign is so short, and none of them are because Ford wanted you to get a nice, long look at the other options.
 
The snap election has really not been well thought out. I've found out that until recently, our riding didn't have a local Liberal candidate in place, and one has only just been accepted with 10 days to go until the election. There's no way they can properly campaign with only 10 days to go, let alone enough time for people to get to know them. What a mess!

That's a fuck up by the party (unless they couldn't find some-one to run).

The rumors started swirling late last year that ford was looking to early election so they should have looking for some-one to run.

hopefully they'll do better for the federal election because provide the libs don't fuck up and elect freeland leader, while the odds still favour the tories, there's still the possibly of a liberal win or holding poilievere to a minority.

On a personal basis one poll puts carney 14 points over the conservative leader which confirms what I've long said. There's little love for poilievre and mosts of his advnantage was being up against a 3rd term trudeau.
 
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That's a fuck up by the party (unless they couldn't find some-one to run).

It is and due to in-party politics. One of our Liberal supporters jumped ship to support our PC Candidate. And yeah, it looks like they were desperate at this point.
 
Only days to go and we haven't received our voting cards yet. Actually, out of 3, only one has received them. I'm guessing we'll receive them on Monday.
 
Only days to go and we haven't received our voting cards yet. Actually, out of 3, only one has received them. I'm guessing we'll receive them on Monday.

That was when they were supposed to start arriving.

Our arrived during the weekend (mine on Monday, the wife's on Wednesday) and went down voted today.
 
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