The Mandela Effect on TAS

Discussion in 'Star Trek - The Original & Animated Series' started by johnnybear, Mar 3, 2018.

  1. jaime

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    They grow on you. Especially when your kids watch them at the age we watched the originals. And the originals sort of...creak downwards a little, when watched out of their historical context in the same manner. There’s a kind of...levelling effect. And every one of the prequels has a more coherent story than TFA (haven’t seen TLJ yet) and their background, whether unexciting or not, makes a lot more sense than TFAs Set up too. It’s likely George could have found a way to do it without having to tear down the originals, or stick some old EU stuff in the blender. I mean we can say what we like about George, but he never leaned on reset buttons, and put a lot more new stuff in the prequels than we have had from Disney.
     
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  2. Maurice

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    Of course, in another universe he never said "beam me up, Scotty," but on beamdown always reported "down and safe". ;)
     
  3. Discofan

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    Was Spock smiling in the pilot or is that something from another universe?
     
  4. C57D

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    Maybe slightly off topic, but.....
    I recall seeing a 50's film about a wounded veteran in hospital who dreams of finding a special town that holds great memories for him. A nurse tries to help him find it (and I think they fall in love) but all attempts fail.
    Right at the end, the camera pans out his hospital room window to show a street sign with the name of this town - so it was a fake memory!
    Weird that I have an uncertain memory about a film based on a fake memory !
    Anyone recognise my description and know what its called??
     
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  5. johnnybear

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    I left school in 1980 so must have been before my time, Butters!
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  6. johnnybear

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    Seems very familiar but I can't place it...
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  7. Discofan

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    Maybe it's an episode of the "Twilight Zone"
     
  8. C57D

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    Yeah it does sound a bit like that. But I am pretty certain it's a film. Then again given my limited memory on it who knows !!!!
     
  9. MAGolding

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    It was a TV movie. The man had fake memories of a childhood in Charles, Vermont, but couldn't find the town when he tried to get there. As I remember, it dates to the 1970s.

    Aha! I remembered Martin Landau as the star, and so was able to find out the movie is Welcome Home, Johnny Bristol January 30, 1972.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_Home,_Johnny_Bristol
     
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  10. C57D

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    Many thanks MAGolding! That one had me guessing for decades.
    Didn't help that I was thinking 50's not 70's.
     
  11. Maurice

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  12. C57D

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    I maybe pushing my luck here, but can a cast another (last I promise) barely recalled film onto this thread?
    Again very mysterious and Twilight Zone-ish.
    It was English subtitled and I think originally in French. For some reason French-Canadian is in my memory.
    Police get called to a shooting in a cinema. Happened during the showing of a western, as the black hatted villian was fast drawing another character. Police Detective (central character) cant find aby evidence other than the shooting tying up with the gunfire onscreen. So he decides to rerun the film but as he does the western villuan comes to life on the screen and stalks and shoots dead the detective.
    Any ideas folks or did I dream it??
     
  13. Spot261

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    That was the news, it happened a few years ago
     
  14. Jayson1

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    Here is one. I didn't know Adam Scott " Park and Recrerations" was the pilot in "First Contact" that Worf orders, ramming speed to until this past year even though I have seen the movie many times over the years.

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  15. Discofan

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    I come from a universe where the Mandela effect doesn't exist... (paradox)
     
  16. Discofan

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    On a galley "ramming speed" is the fastest speed that could be achieved. I wonder what's "ramming speed" on a starship. In fact, I don't believe that people constructed starships with the idea that they could be rammed into another one. So that Worf couldn't really say that and not having his helmsman ask back: "Beg your pardon, what speed?".

    Plus If your torpedoes can't pierce a ship's shields then it's doubtful that the mere mass of your ship would do any better. IOW, a hammer no matter how big will never be as powerful as a nuclear device (or whatever they call those torpedoes).
     
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  17. johnnybear

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    In my original post, I stated that I remember Birds of Prey chasing The Enterprise in The Practical joker! Did anyone else remember it that way or is it just me?
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  18. J.T.B.

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    Yeah, that was kind of funny. Ramming speed was a thing for ships designed with a ram as an offensive weapon. Otherwise it would be just full speed. Or maybe "end of ship's useful life speed."
     
  19. TrickyDickie

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    I remember they were closer to the look of the Klingon bird of prey....that the ship design was due to more of that Klingon-Romulan trade agreement....and that it established a bit of a precedent so there was a basis for the ship in Search for Spock and that it didn't just come virtually out of nowhere.

    :shrug:

    Things get mighty weird for me, across the board. I encounter the dead-celebrities-alive-again phenomena many times.

    Take yesterday, for example. In another thread, I mentioned the Alfred Hitchcock movie 'The Man Who Knew Too Much'. I remembered that James Stewart was the star, but I had forgotten who else was in it. Someone pointed out that Doris Day was the co-star and that yesterday was her birthday. I looked her up and found that she is still alive. I had not heard that a few days before, the vicious rumor mill said that she had died. For me, I clearly remember that she passed away a year or two ago. I clearly recall it being reported on national news broadcasts and her being included in the 'Stars we lost in....' etc. Further, at that point, a thought occurred to me: Look up someone else whom you know passed away within the same general time frame and you will find that has changed now, too: Tim Conway. Sure enough, he is still alive. But I remember those same kind of national news broadcasts, retrospectives, etc. I remember at the time thinking how much fun he had with Harvey Korman and now they were both gone.

    I'm always glad, of course, to find out that folks are still alive, but the whole thing makes no logical sense. I remember Billy Graham and the sportscaster Keith Jackson dying before they actually did. And also Stan Lee....years before that hoax crap. Something like 2009 or so.

    If it were just me, that would be one thing. But, it's happening to my wife, too. When we discover someone still alive that we know passed away, she is just as shocked and confused as I am and is just as much "What the hell?!?"

    :confused::shrug:
     
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  20. FormerLurker

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    Just to really screw you up, "The Man Who Knew Too Much" is a remake, and the original was made twenty years earlier. By Hitchcock.