Spoilers The Mandalorian Season 3
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The Mandalorian presents, "Same shit, different flag."
The New Republic does seem to be making a lot of bad decisions, though I'm curious about how it compares to historical de-nazification. Trashing the ships and equipment instead of salvaging them is an interesting choice (though perhaps they're one and the same: The New Republic's Starhawk battleships were built out of recycled Star Destroyer parts, and Pershing just might not have been cleared to know the difference between disposal and "disposal"). Noticed we're still relying on that Rogue One Star Destroyer model. What a change from the old days, where up through Rebels, every ISD-I was the ESB model with one or two of the most conspicuous modifications made, and now the tables have turned (though, aside from the animated trailer for Squadrons, I don't think they've ever used the R1 Destroyer to represent an ISD-II, just a lot more ISD-Is around than you would've expected from Star Wars pre-2016). I don't know what it is, I just love variants, and I'd like to see both models of Star Destroyer at the same time (outside of ESB).
Keeping the former Imperials in military uniform is an interesting choice, and I really can't see the percentage in not calling them by name. This show really does seem to have an eye towards building up to the New Republic suffering its own secession crisis and being deposed by a counter-revolution, they are actively sowing the seeds of their own destruction, even without an apparent double-agent entrapping people who might pose a threat to what's left of the Empire. Hopefully Poe, Rey, and Finn will read a fucking book when they start trying to figure out how to run the New New Republic.
The New Republic does seem to be making a lot of bad decisions, though I'm curious about how it compares to historical de-nazification. Trashing the ships and equipment instead of salvaging them is an interesting choice (though perhaps they're one and the same: The New Republic's Starhawk battleships were built out of recycled Star Destroyer parts, and Pershing just might not have been cleared to know the difference between disposal and "disposal"). Noticed we're still relying on that Rogue One Star Destroyer model. What a change from the old days, where up through Rebels, every ISD-I was the ESB model with one or two of the most conspicuous modifications made, and now the tables have turned (though, aside from the animated trailer for Squadrons, I don't think they've ever used the R1 Destroyer to represent an ISD-II, just a lot more ISD-Is around than you would've expected from Star Wars pre-2016). I don't know what it is, I just love variants, and I'd like to see both models of Star Destroyer at the same time (outside of ESB).
Keeping the former Imperials in military uniform is an interesting choice, and I really can't see the percentage in not calling them by name. This show really does seem to have an eye towards building up to the New Republic suffering its own secession crisis and being deposed by a counter-revolution, they are actively sowing the seeds of their own destruction, even without an apparent double-agent entrapping people who might pose a threat to what's left of the Empire. Hopefully Poe, Rey, and Finn will read a fucking book when they start trying to figure out how to run the New New Republic.
This week felt like an episode of Andor and I enjoyed every minute of it.
I can't fucking believe they basically stuck an episode of Andor into The Mandalorian. Its like mixing dogshit and peanut butter. 10 minutes of cool Star Wars stuff with Mando book ending the episode, then 30-40 minutes of generic Andor bullshit. Seriously, replace the round glasses scientist with that wormy bureaucrat from Andor and it just becomes an Andor episode. I legitimately expected Stellan Skarsgard to walk out of the shadows at some point. Is this revenge for Boba Fett basically having a full episode of Mandalorian stuck into it? I don't know, but this is now easily my most hated episode of Mandalorian, beating out the terrible ice planet episode.
I'm not watching another second of that damn subplot. From now on, if Mando (or one of the actual supporting characters, like Bo Katan, Greef, Grogu, etc) isn't on screen, I'm fast forwarding until one of them is. I'm not watching another Andor, the first one was bad enough.
I'm not watching another second of that damn subplot. From now on, if Mando (or one of the actual supporting characters, like Bo Katan, Greef, Grogu, etc) isn't on screen, I'm fast forwarding until one of them is. I'm not watching another Andor, the first one was bad enough.
Trashing the ISDs makes perfect sense. They were a very visible and omnipresent symbol of oppression, so just slapping Republic colours on them wouldn't be a good look. Plus there's going to be WAY more of those things than the New Republic is ever going to need, and leaving that amount of military hardware just lying around is just asking for trouble.
Right now, it's not unreasonable to suppose that what the galaxy needs more than weapons, is reconstruction, and that's where the majority of resources should go.
Also worth remembering that the war wasn't really one of occupation and conquest as we might understand it; it was a galaxy wide civil war. Now that it's over there's (in theory) no comparable enemy to guard against. No other opposing super-power as there was for the western allies at the end of WWII to drive a continued investment in a standing military.
Right now the Republic Navy's job is to keep the peace, secure the trade routes, box in and eliminate the remaining warlords. Remember that the goal seems to be to get things back to how they were before the Clone Wars, when full scale wars were a thing of ancient history and the closest thing to a standing military was a mere task force with judicial duties, and little else.
Side note: having a close look at the ISD to see which version it is, it seems as though all the pieces that easily distinguish between the original '77 filming miniature, it's later retouched incarnation used in Empire & Jedi, and the entirely new (and bigger) 'Avenger' model built for tESB, are the very parts that have been removed. Very sneaky way not to have to make a whole new ISDII asset (yet) by just stripping down the RO mesh until you can't tell the difference (or just reusing some 'Solo' assets?)
Right now, it's not unreasonable to suppose that what the galaxy needs more than weapons, is reconstruction, and that's where the majority of resources should go.
Also worth remembering that the war wasn't really one of occupation and conquest as we might understand it; it was a galaxy wide civil war. Now that it's over there's (in theory) no comparable enemy to guard against. No other opposing super-power as there was for the western allies at the end of WWII to drive a continued investment in a standing military.
Right now the Republic Navy's job is to keep the peace, secure the trade routes, box in and eliminate the remaining warlords. Remember that the goal seems to be to get things back to how they were before the Clone Wars, when full scale wars were a thing of ancient history and the closest thing to a standing military was a mere task force with judicial duties, and little else.
Side note: having a close look at the ISD to see which version it is, it seems as though all the pieces that easily distinguish between the original '77 filming miniature, it's later retouched incarnation used in Empire & Jedi, and the entirely new (and bigger) 'Avenger' model built for tESB, are the very parts that have been removed. Very sneaky way not to have to make a whole new ISDII asset (yet) by just stripping down the RO mesh until you can't tell the difference (or just reusing some 'Solo' assets?)
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Indeed. After decades of war or various conflicts, the New Republic trying to move towards peace that the Old Republic had enjoyed makes sense, even if it allows for their eventual downfall.
The season 1 episode Bryce Dallas Howard directed, she said Pascal was never there.
Somebody needs some blue milk and cereal.
Interesting how the rich socialites seemed to have been the same between Andor and "now" (Mandalorian).
This set-up i think will be about a plot to kidnap Grogu again. Even though the Republic "recovered" the equipment, i think either the inventory of it will be used to help the new Imperial scientists get what they need to continue to the work, or it will mysteriously get lost.
This set-up i think will be about a plot to kidnap Grogu again. Even though the Republic "recovered" the equipment, i think either the inventory of it will be used to help the new Imperial scientists get what they need to continue to the work, or it will mysteriously get lost.
The New Republic is clearly on the road to the dysfunction and ineffectiveness it has in the Sequel Trilogy and just beforehand. While it's once again a democracy the system just feels bloated and too full of itself. Defeating the Empire and restoring freedom to the galaxy were great goals but Coruscant just feels like it's in the Roaring Twenties, and we know how that decade of history ended.
Like that or like the aftermath of the American Civil War, were there was a lot of blaming, cost shifting and segregation as Johnson attempted to manage the rebuilding efforts. But, with Lincoln's assassination it created more rifts.
Despite the Rebel Alliance's best of intentions in restoring the Republic they are not going to be looked as favorably upon by all.
Plus, as much as I like them the New Republic X-Wing Pilots patrolling the space lanes seem to have too much pride in being bureaucratic dicks and sticking their nose into things. It's as if the Empire were replaced with a benevolent government that just doesn't know when to shut up for its own good.
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This was terrific! What an engaging story.
Indeed. The New Republic is not presented in the best of lights in terms of replacing the Empire. I get that fans have a certain level of investment in the outcome because of the heroes, but not everyone in the Rebellion was suited for leading a government post government collapse.
But isn't it knd of a continuity with how that society has been going on all along?
The Empire basically used the infrastructure of the Republic to transition to its plans, and became much more overt after the destruction of Alderaan/ dissolution of the Senate.
The New Republic is using the same infrastructure that has been put in place over years.
The Mountaintop in Corsucant is a metaphor to that....how the "core" is buried underneath centuries on a structure built over it.
And COrsucant is basically one big city?????
The Empire basically used the infrastructure of the Republic to transition to its plans, and became much more overt after the destruction of Alderaan/ dissolution of the Senate.
The New Republic is using the same infrastructure that has been put in place over years.
The Mountaintop in Corsucant is a metaphor to that....how the "core" is buried underneath centuries on a structure built over it.
And COrsucant is basically one big city?????
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Indeed. There's a message about the infrastructure of systemic inequity holding up a city on a hill buried somewhere in there.
I think they said that the first time we see Coruscant in TPM.
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