Spoilers The Mandalorian season 2 discussion

[Reverend]

Yeah guys, the face scan thing doesn't need to be anything more complicated than "Space Captcha". It's not as if the location of Gideon cruiser would be top secret information, merely classified (there's a difference.) If that base is shipping that rhydonium to him, then they need to know where he is, and presumably to communicate with him too (one assumes routing through the holonet wouldn't be terribly secure, so direct point-to-point would be necessary.)
We know from 'Rebels' that Imperial internal security has always been a joke. I mean how many times did Kanan, Ezra, Sabine and Chopper pull exactly this kind of job?

But they have to explain the mustache. Nobody but him ever sees his face and he's still manscaping.

The real reason is probably because Pascal is either unwilling to shave it, or unable to due to other filming commitments.

In-universe: I can think of two possibilities: -

1. He takes the helmet off so infrequently as an adolescent that he just got used to it like that (speaking as someone who's had a beard since my teens, I can attest that the one time I did shave it off in my 20's, it just felt...weird.)
2. His father had a beard and this is Dyn's way of keeping his memory alive.

 

[Gordie]

Maybe the facial scan was also in place originally to prevent clone troopers from accessing certain systems? They all had the same face. Also fits with Fett's comment about the system recognizing his face.

I think it was just a public info kiosk that anyone could use. It just required a face scan of all users first. Just so they would have a record of who used it. I don't think the face scan was a security feature.

 

[Noname Given]

Oh one thing I forgot to mention in my post regarding this episode:

I was laughing my ass off when the first shot of Mando in the episode had him wearing his jetpack; which many (including myself), noted that he never was shown picking it up/re-equipping it after putting it down on Tython, even after The production team going out of their way to show that he picked up his Veskar spear.

But yeah as they bring the convicted criminal on board Slave One; there's the shot of Mando wearing his jetpack again. So I guess Boba Fett picked it up (offscreen of course), and put it in Slave One; but didn't let Mando know until after they left Tython.

(But yeah the production reason is probably it was a continuity mistake no one caught while shooting; And they either noticed after the episode was edited together; and didn't feel it was worth any extra time/effort/cost to reshoot or add a quick scene showing Mando picking the jetpack up.

That said someone obviously noticed it at some point because they have the one scene I mentioned in this episode that shows Mando wearing his jetpack again.)

 

[Gordie]

I think it was just a public info kiosk that anyone could use. It just required a face scan of all users first. Just so they would have a record of who used it. I don't think the face scan was a security feature.

You know I just thought of something. It could be to prevent droids from accessing their systems/info or whatever.

 

[Reverend]

^Gee, wish I'd thought of that!

My guess: a hold over security protocol from the Clone Wars to prevent droids from accessing certain systems. Commando droids have been known to infiltrate.

Yeah guys, the face scan thing doesn't need to be anything more complicated than "Space Captcha".

Oh, never mind then!

 

[FreezeC77]

Since what we're seeing with Din getting the Beskar spear, using his beskar armor against lightsabers, seeing that beskar spear used in the duel against Ahsoka and seeing Jin using spears fighting on the planet.

It definitely seems like everything is building to a fight of Din vs Gideon, but physically does that really look a fair fight? Din's probably 15-20 years younger. I'm wondering if we'll find out that the "Darth Vader fanboy" Gideon has replaced his own limbs with cybernetic replacements emulating Vader, but also making himself much more formidable physically.

 

[fireproof78]

You know I just thought of something. It could be to prevent droids from accessing their systems/info or whatever.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

It definitely seems like everything is building to a fight of Din vs Gideon, but physically does that really look a fair fight?

You're right, Mando doesn't stand a chance!

 

[JD]

It's in the end credits. They snuck Poe into some of the concept art that they used in the end of credits.

Hmm, I wonder if they were actually going to try to get Oscar Isaac on when they were starting out, or if someone just put him in as a easter egg joke?

The real reason is probably because Pascal is either unwilling to shave it, or unable to due to other filming commitments.

He shaved it off for Wonder Woman 1984

 

[tommulligan]

He shaved it off for Wonder Woman 1984[/QUOTE]
It’s a Dc movie. They probably just digitally removed it.

 

[Tuskin38]

EC Henry thinks Gideon's cruiser might be a physical model (if not, a CG model made to look like a physical model)

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[cooleddie74]

I like how Gideon's cruiser takes design echoes from Prequel Era Republic Navy cruisers and the Star Destroyers of the Clone Wars. The series and Filoni are doing their homework when it comes to extrapolating what ships look like between the Original Trilogy and the Sequel Trilogy.

 

[David cgc]

I like how Gideon's cruiser takes design echoes from Prequel Era Republic Navy cruisers and the Star Destroyers of the Clone Wars. The series and Filoni are doing their homework when it comes to extrapolating what ships look like between the Original Trilogy and the Sequel Trilogy.

It actually is a prequel-era design from Clone Wars, which got all the red racing stripes stripped off when it was used as an Imperial cruiser in Rebels, and is also a big part of the recent "Sqaudrons" video game as the Imperial equivalent of the Nebulon-B frigate in the "Fleet Battles" multiplayer mode.

 

[DigificWriter]

Having now seen Rosario Dawson's turn ad Ahsoka, I wish they'd either gotten Ashley to bring the role into live-action or had Rosario debut the character vocally in The Rise of Skywalker.

 

[Reverend]

EC Henry thinks Gideon's cruiser might be a physical model (if not, a CG model made to look like a physical model)

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Adam Savage has expressed a similar suspicion, and given that he's a former ILM model maker himself and knows some of the guys still working in the model shop, I'd take his word for it.
Regardless, it seemed obvious to me that this is either a model, or a very high fidelity digital scan of one. Given that the show has already commissioned one model for some old school MCC shots to evoke that classic trilogy feel, it's hardly surprising that they'd go for it again. For me though, the main give away is just how clean and uniformly coloured it looks. Like the paint job was fairly uniform and they didn't have time for a full weathering pass; something that would be time consuming for a miniature but fairly simple for a CG model.

It actually is a prequel-era design from Clone Wars, which got all the red racing stripes stripped off when it was used as an Imperial cruiser in Rebels, and is also a big part of the recent "Sqaudrons" video game as the Imperial equivalent of the Nebulon-B frigate in the "Fleet Battles" multiplayer mode.

All true, however it looks like this is technically a new variant. The bridge section is much bigger and styled more like and SD's than more cramped set from Rebels & TCW, the design of the cannons look entirely new, and there seems to be actual hangar facilities. Indeed that last change may have scaled the whole ship up a bit as in the original version, TIEs and shuttles had to be bolted onto the hull between the mandables.

 

[valkyrie013]

Interesting how doomcock and others are saying Pascal is leaving.. But just the other day he hopes he gets a chance to guest on other shows.. Ugh..

 

[Reverend]

Interesting how doomcock and others are saying Pascal is leaving.. But just the other day he hopes he gets a chance to guest on other shows.. Ugh..

Shh! Don't question the narrative!

 

[Tuskin38]

Indeed that last change may have scaled the whole ship up a bit as in the original version,

Some people did some measuring based on the bridge set and tie fighter bay, and it’s still the same length as the ones seen in Clone Wars/Rebels, 325 meters. Yeah It’s clearly a new variant, beefed up, but not any longer than base ones.

https://boards.theforce.net/threads...thread-mk-ii.21527953/page-1143#post-57078867

Look for the post by sans_fi

Also remember, some design in rebels were stylized, they weren’t 1:1 scale to how they were in the movies and other ‘realistic’ productions. The standard tie for example was wider (or shorter?).

 

[Reverend]

Some people did some measuring based on the bridge set and tie fighter bay, and it’s still the same length as the ones seen in Clone Wars/Rebels, 325 meters. Yeah It’s clearly a new variant, beefed up, but not any longer than base ones.

https://boards.theforce.net/threads...thread-mk-ii.21527953/page-1143#post-57078867

Look for the post by sans_fi

Also remember, some design in rebels were stylized, they weren’t 1:1 scale to how they were in the movies and other ‘realistic’ productions. The standard tie for example was wider (or shorter?).

Nice. I didn't notice before that there was actually a bunch of TIEs lined up in the bay. Very similar to the Phoenix Home arrangment.
Still, that is a *tiny* amount of lateral clearance for launching the TIEs, it must be some kind of magrail catapult or else they'd be bouncing off the sides, and good luck retrieving your squadron if you have to jump away in a hurry! (I say squardon, more like one flight of six fighters, max.)
The way shuttles would dock between the mandibles in 'Rebels' never made much sense to me. How/where would the airlock interface? Doubly odd considering how the ship design clearly has a pair of P/S docking collars.

 

[Jedi_Master]

Since what we're seeing with Din getting the Beskar spear, using his beskar armor against lightsabers, seeing that beskar spear used in the duel against Ahsoka and seeing Jin using spears fighting on the planet.

It definitely seems like everything is building to a fight of Din vs Gideon, but physically does that really look a fair fight? Din's probably 15-20 years younger. I'm wondering if we'll find out that the "Darth Vader fanboy" Gideon has replaced his own limbs with cybernetic replacements emulating Vader, but also making himself much more formidable physically.

The Mandolorian has demonstrated his physical prowess on camera, but we should assume that Gideon is either a highly capable fighter and/or will have a large and difficult to beat contingent of robotic Dark Troopers at his disposal.