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Spoilers The Mandalorian season 2 discussion

Surprised the Imperial cruiser let the Slave I get so close for an inspection without firing off a few shots. Unless (my theory) Slave I has powerful jammers or something that makes it hard to pick up on sensors.

Or, as someone suggested this week, Fett is working for the Empire/Moff Gideon. Fett even said he'd been tracking Din for some time now. And the Imperial officer did say to Gideon that the child's presence was confirmed by agents (or something to that effect).
 
Or, as someone suggested this week, Fett is working for the Empire/Moff Gideon. Fett even said he'd been tracking Din for some time now. And the Imperial officer did say to Gideon that the child's presence was confirmed by agents (or something to that effect).

I think the agents he was referring to were back on the planet where Greef had is men work on the Razor Crest. One of them planted a tracking device.
 
Just saw the episode - what a great way to bring in Boba Fett. For the first time, I actually have some interest in that character.

As I watched the episode, something about the planet seemed really familiar. Then it finally hit me - that’s Stoney Point Park in Chatsworth, CA! I grew up there and used to go there the time. Figures that Filoni would use a location that countless westerns filmed at in the 50’s and 60’s. They did some really good framing and digital repainting to hide the 118 freeway and Topanga Canyon Blvd.

https://www.laparks.org/park/stoney-point
Up next the Vasquez rocks?:angel::whistle:;)
 
Yeah, I doubt Fett is working for him. Just call the massive death toll among the Stormtroopers and Fett's unbridled rage during his killing spree evidence that this was a surprise attack by the Imperial Remnant and had nothing to do with a pre-planned setup between Gideon and Boba. This whole thing feels like nothing more than successfully tracking the Razor Crest via the tracking device planted on the ship during the encounter with Cobb Vanth.
 
Not much different than all the stormtroopers and the 4 TIE pilots killed when Han, Luke, Leia and the droids were allowed to escape the Death Star.
It's completely different. In ANH, the Empire was essentially at its peak. Tarkin and Vader probably figured they'd get replacement stormtroopers and TIE pilots within a week, and the belief they'd have the Rebel Alliance annihilated within a day was probably considered an acceptable trade-off. Now the Empire is no more, and what Gideon has access to is it, there are no replacements coming. And while the capture of Grogu is a high enough priority to warrant the loss of stormtrooper lives, Gideon's not going to allow Boba Fett to kill so many just to sell Fett's credibility.

Besides, I get the impression they're drawing on Legends material with how they depict Boba Fett here on the show. Namely, he's not really an evil villain, he's just on the hero's opposing side because that's his current job. Also, his willingness to help Mando rescue Grogu seems like his intense desire to protect children which was a thing in Legends.
 
Apropos of nothing, but I'm finding it curious how I keep seeing people talking as if Boba is now officially a Mandalorian, when the episode went out of it's way to say the exact opposite. I mean did nobody else hear him say "your forebears", not "our forebears"?
Don't get me wrong, there's clearly a strong connection there, but even Jango didn't follow "The Way of The Mandalore" since he didn't live in his armor and had no qualms showing his face in public (and at a public execution no less!)
Between fighting in Mandalorian civil wars (plural!) and Boba's line about giving allegiance to nobody, I'm guessing Jango developed a distinct "thanks for the armor, but screw the lot of you and your factions!" attitude that he passed onto his son.
Even leaving that aside, how does being the "son" (technically twin brother, really) of a foundling make Boba Mandalorian? He was born/decanted on Kamino, not Mandalore or Concord Dawn. He was never sworn to any creed or gave his allegiance to any clan or house that we know of. He defiantly didn't have Mandalorian citizenship if the Prime Minister of Mandalore's reaction is any indication. So that checks off blood heritage, cultural heritage, religion AND legal standing. He's about as Mandalorian as just any random dude owing a katanna is a samurai.

Besides, I get the impression they're drawing on Legends material with how they depict Boba Fett here on the show. Namely, he's not really an evil villain, he's just on the hero's opposing side because that's his current job. Also, his willingness to help Mando rescue Grogu seems like his intense desire to protect children which was a thing in Legends.
I'd say it's more like they're holding to what they were developing for Boba in TCW, where we saw him struggle with Aurra Sing's more sadistic, cold blooded approach, and in an unfinished episode would have had a showdown with Cad Bane over the safety of innocent bystanders. He's no angel, neither is he one of those "brutes with a heart of gold" types, he's still a ball of rage when the situation calls for it, but he has certain lines he won't cross, certain ideals he holds to.

Bounty hunters are after all contract mercenaries, not pirates.
They may not need scruples, but they do need to cultivate a reputation and that means having standards. If word gets around that a hunter habitually breaks contracts, then that hunter won't get hired anymore (and will probably have the guild sending other hunters to take him out for violating guild law.) This also extends to the paying of debts. You get a reputation for screwing over partners, you're going to find yourself not being hired by larger crews. Even Ventress understood this when she made sure to leave Boba his share of a bounty, even after she took off with the asset and "sold" her to someone else.
 
Even leaving that aside, how does being the "son" (technically twin brother, really) of a foundling make Boba Mandalorian? He was born/decanted on Kamino, not Mandalore or Concord Dawn. He was never sworn to any creed or gave his allegiance to any clan or house that we know of. He defiantly didn't have Mandalorian citizenship if the Prime Minister of Mandalore's reaction is any indication. So that checks off blood heritage, cultural heritage, religion AND legal standing. He's about as Mandalorian as just any random dude owing a katanna is a samurai.

Lets do a thought experiment. "Fango Jett" is a foundling who is raised in ways of the Mandalorian and decides to leave and become a Bounty Hunter when he is an adult. Later he has a biological son who he trains in what ever aspects of the culture he deems still useful. Is that son a Mandalorian? We don't really know how that works with descendants of Foundlings.

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Obviously there are several levels of strictness to Mandalorian tradition. Whose to say Jango's more casual version is any less legitimate than Bo Katans? In which case, Boba would still be a Mandalorian by Creed. Being grown in a lab might be a loophole that the Prime Minister might exploit, but in practicality he's still Jango's son.
 
Lets do a thought experiment. "Fango Jett" is a foundling who is raised in ways of the Mandalorian and decides to leave and become a Bounty Hunter when he is an adult. Later he has a biological son who he trains in what ever aspects of the culture he deems still useful. Is that son a Mandalorian? We don't really know how that works with descendants of Foundlings.

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Obviously there are several levels of strictness to Mandalorian tradition. Whose to say Jango's more casual version is any less legitimate than Bo Katans? In which case, Boba would still be a Mandalorian by Creed. Being grown in a lab might be a loophole that the Prime Minister might exploit, but in practicality he's still Jango's son.
I think the salient point here is precisely that Boba makes no claim of being Mandalorian. His only claim is that he owns that armor, which he does through inheritance.
 
Still think Fett is working for Gideon, debt or no. He has too long a history of working with Imperials.
BTW (forgive it it's already been discussed)- If Fett is so awesome and badass as shown in The Tragedy, why didn't he take his armor back from the sheriff himself ? Something smells here.......
 
Still think Fett is working for Gideon, debt or no. He has too long a history of working with Imperials.
BTW (forgive it it's already been discussed)- If Fett is so awesome and badass as shown in The Tragedy, why didn't he take his armor back from the sheriff himself ? Something smells here.......
If he were working for Gideon (spoilers: he's not) then why fight the Stormtroopers? Why stick around after Grogu is already gone? Why act surprised the Empire is back? Why give him a lift back to Nevarro? Why would Gideon even hire him as a tracker when he literally already had a tracking device planted on the Razor Crest? None of this even remotely makes sense.

Fett's history of working for the Empire is the same as his history of working for the Hutts, Black Sun, or who knows, maybe even Maul at some point; they game him money. That's the beginning, middle and end of it. There's no loyalty there. Had the Rebel Alliance ever hired him, he'd have worked for them too. Hell, if Han Solo himself ever had the occasion, will and the means to hire Boba, he'd probably have taken that contract too.

As for why it took him so long to track his armor down, it really doesn't take much imagination: -
Last he saw it, it was in the Dune Sea. Presumably it was already gone by the time he came to, and there was a sandstorm that same day which would have erased any sandcrawler tracks, making them impossible to follow. Besides, at that point he had more pressing concerns: like not dying of thirst and/or heatstroke.

Clearly he made it back to wherever he parked Slave 1 (Jabba's Palace, Mos Espa, or Mos Eisley) so it's not like he was stuck on the planet. Maybe he's been coming back to Tatooine periodically over the years to look for the armor with no real luck. Mos Pelgo is a nowhere town, not even on the maps, so it never came up in his searches. But maybe last time he was in Mos Eisley, Boba hears about some bounty hunter in mando armour. He follows the lead, which brings him to a near death Fennec Shand. By the time he drags her out of the desert and patches her up, Dyn is long gone.

But just as he's about to leave with a now fully recovered professional assassin in his debt, he hears the Mando is back in town. Finds out he's headed towards Mos Pelgo, but again, just misses him, but this time he gets within sight of Dyn and gets a visual on his armor lashed on the back of his speeder bike. He goes to Mos Pelgo anyway to get the full story and make doubly sure he's on the right track (the sandcrawler story lines up) so off he and Fennic go to track him down.

A pointed word a maybe a few credits in the hand of Mos Eisley tower control gets him the sublight vector for Trask. He gets there well ahead, but noticing the Nightowls are in town make him wary and hangs back. Four Mandos at once is a little much even for him while he's at a disadvantage. No rush though, he's waited this long and any good hunter knows how to be patient and pick their moment.
So he follows the Razor Crest to Navaro; promising, but a New Republic patrol shows up and that's not the kind of attention Boba wants to draw if he can help it. So on to Corvus...which has a Jedi on the loose. No thanks, not getting into it with one of those again, especially without the armor! Next stop: Tython. Perfect! Uninhabited, remote, no other Mandos, Jedi, or New Republic. Perfect place to corner Dyn and get his armor back....and we know how it went from there.
 
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Anyone find the "Skip Intro" button on Mandalorian's five second intro funny?
No. I just use it.

BTW (forgive it it's already been discussed)- If Fett is so awesome and badass as shown in The Tragedy, why didn't he take his armor back from the sheriff himself ? Something smells here.......
Not necessarily. We don't know the time frame for Fett getting out of the sarlacc, how much healing he needed and how he was able to track down his armor. Tatooine pretty much changed overnight with the fall of the Empire, so its not like Fett would know exactly where his armor ran of to.
 
... so its not like Fett would know exactly where his armor ran of to.
That's true. But, what are the odds that he finally tracked the armor down just as it was being taken back from the sheriff?

If the Fett-ster is not up to no good, then it seems he knew where his armor was and approved of its use in protecting the town. Hence, he was just monitoring its whereabouts and was ready to take it back when it was not needed. Which it was not needed after the monster was killed and a truce now exists with the Sand People. It seems strange from any way of looking at it.

Is there something to all this, or is it just a writer taking advantage of the fact that "truth is stranger than fiction"?
 
Well Cobb got the armour from the Jawas. So a possibility is that he crawled, Etc. from the sarlac, and passed out, the jawas found him, and took his armour, and left him in some settlement to heal. He comes around, and see's he's sans armour. Looking for jawas is like a needle in a large haystack, so he like said above, periodically comes back to see if he can find his stuff, and one day he gets lucky. and bobs your uncle.
 
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