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The Mandalorian and Grogu (2026)

Some of the stuff in this movie was clearly aimed at people who were familiar with the toys in the early 80s. Such as:
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In Blish's adaptation of "Miri" (and maybe the script he had to work from) there was an explicit reference to canned food (as I recall, the local slang term for a can opener was a "mommy"). Not canon, and I'm not sure I'd want to trust century-old canned food, but surviving on preserved food and perhaps on forage, might be minimally plausible, especially if we assume a relatively high attrition rate, from a combination of the disease becoming active, and kids eating stuff that was (as Alton Brown would put it) "definitely not Good Eats."

But then again, "Miri" was never one of my favorite episodes. Certainly not up there with "The Devil in the Dark," or "The City on the Edge of Forever."
 
, and I'm not sure I'd want to trust century-old canned food, but surviving on preserved food and perhaps on forage, might be minimally plausible, especially if we assume a relatively high attrition rate, from a combination of the disease becoming active, and kids eating stuff that was (as Alton Brown would put it) "definitely not Good Eats."
I would not advise playing Fallout.
 
"Miri" is a terrible episode. It starts off with that shocking discovery of a duplicate Earth, and then just drops it and never explains it, since it was never more than an excuse to shoot on the Desilu backlot.

I did try to rationalize it a little in my novel Forgotten History. I posited that Miri's Earth was a parallel-timeline Earth that had slipped into the Prime universe, and the story visited its home universe and showed how interstellar civilization there had developed in the absence of Earth and humanity. I think I handwaved the Onlies as the last surviving dregs of the population, and treated their behavior as more feral than childlike per se. Although it was just a passing reference, since I didn't want to focus on "Miri" any more than I had to.
 
I would not advise playing Fallout.
I looked it up in Wikipedia, and it doesn't look very appealing.

"Miri" is a terrible episode.
Don't mince words, CLB, what do you really think?

Seriously, you did an excellent job of making sense of the episode's absurdities You managed to both lampshade and justify the fundamental flaws in the episode's premise.

Why is it that we write stories about the episodes we dislike? At some point during my four semesters of Davi Loren's Short Story Workshop at Orange Coast College, I wrote a ST short story called "Interview with Dr. Ambrose Crater, or 'The Salt Vampire Ate My Parents'." And I think my dislike of "The Man Trap" is pretty much common knowledge around here. (Oh, my God: Professor Loren died of brain cancer almost 5 years ago, roughly three years after she'd retired, and I'm just finding out about it now!)

To try and drag this back on-topic, I will say that The Mandalorian and Grogu took me completely by surprise. I was completely unaware of it until the combination of a SW-based category, and an advertising bug in the lower right corner of the screen, appeared on one of this week's episodes of Jeopardy! Dunno when I'll get around to seeing it. It's not quite as high a priority as seeing last year's theatrical proshot of Merrily We Roll Along (and buying the DVD as soon as it was released) was, or seeing a new ST theatrical film would be.
 
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Why is it that we write stories about the episodes we dislike?

In that case, I had previously preferred to treat the episode as apocryphal and just ignore it, but when I was looking for an idea for a parallel-universe story, I thought of my old theory that Miri's Earth had slipped over from a parallel timeline, and that got me wondering about what happened in the timeline it left behind. So I acknowledged the episode to the bare minimum extent that I had to in order to tell the story I wanted to tell instead.

In other cases, it's about finding a way to fix things, to rationalize the flaws in an episode and make better sense of it.
 
In other cases, it's about finding a way to fix things, to rationalize the flaws in an episode and make better sense of it.
Sounds about right.

Pardon me if I grieve a bit over Davi. She was a very nurturing professor, beloved of her students. While she and I frequently sparred over the question of what makes literary fiction "literary," and over my assertion that all fiction is genre fiction, because (1) contemporary realism and historical realism are themselves genres, and (2) all works of fiction either fit into at least one existing genre, or define a new genre, or both, our sparring was always on a friendly basis, never hostile. And she gave me the skills to turn my novel-in-progress into something that may yet see print.

And I'm getting an urge to re-read Forgotten History (which got an "Outstanding" out of me), maybe right after I finish The Wounded Sky. Although I still want to re-read To Defy Fate sooner, rather than later.
 
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looked it up in Wikipedia, and it doesn't look very appealing.
200 year old food to survive doesn't appeal? ;)

The game is its own wacky and crazy world but it has some interesting game logic.
Why is it that we write stories about the episodes we dislike?
Negative things draw our attention and then we want to rationalize around them, make them make sense. Especially in a franchise that we are already fans of funding something unenjoyable is uncomfortable.
 
I saw the movie, my first time seeing a film the day it comes out in a while. Overall I liked it for what it was. Lots of good fights, very cool to see a good guy Hutt in full slug combat, nice theme of growing to see Grogu more as an ally than an infant.

The only problem is it didn't feel big enough for a feature movie. When it was announced it was billed as a coda to all the New Republic arcs, instead it was like a good high budget episode of Mandalorian.
 
True. I always figured that, as a telepathic species, the mothers must pass down knowledge to their children in the womb.




Even so, they still would've needed to learn the skills and responsibility just to survive that long, since there was nobody else to take care of them. If they were incapable of that, they would've died out ages before. I mean, what did they eat for 300 years? They would've had to learn how to farm, how to repair buildings and equipment, how to deal with medical crises, etc. They wouldn't just be a bunch of delinquents playing games all day. Okay, presumably the older kids who took care of the younger ones would've mostly died out over time as they gradually reached puberty, caught the disease, and died. But you'd think at least the older kids like Miri and Jahn would've been taking care of the younger kids for long enough that they'd psychologically be more like parents than children.

And "emotionally children" is not an absolute. There have been many societies throughout history where teenagers have been expected to take on what we consider adult responsibilities. Alexander the Great was leading armies at 16. The earlier that responsibilities are thrust on children, the faster they have to grow up emotionally and mentally.

I haven't seen "Miri" in a long time but yeah as a kid watching it the story in regards to their age never made sense. But my thinking is maybe just s maybe mind you the experiential the adults did slowed aging down but we dont know what else it did to their brains and biology. Maybe they dont perceive time the same way so maturity is slow. Maybe the children didn't need as much sustenance because basically their metabolism was slower. Just some guesses. The episode could have definitely explained it better.
 
Maybe they dont perceive time the same way so maturity is slow.

Then wouldn't they have talked and moved reeeeaaalllyyy sllooowwwwlllyyy, like the DMV sloth in Zootopia? If they can carry on a conversation at normal speed, if they can react to Kirk and the landing party in real time, then obviously their time sense is the same as everyone else's.
 
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