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The Legacy of Leonard Nimoy
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Leonard Nimoy's performance helped cement the concept of a Federation of Planets, all with different cultures and values working together as one for the benefit of all.
Nimoy made Spock demonstrably different. He was an alien, yet he was a product of a human-alien union, a friend, a confidant, a moral authority. He was patient in the face of the good-natured, yet often caustic comments made about him and his race by Dr. McCoy.
He showed that aliens in sci-fi did not have to be bug-eyed world destroyers, but rather could be integrated into a larger society and contribute immensely to that society.
Without Spock, the concept of the Federation, and the mindset that any alien, no matter how much of an enemy they might be could and would eventually become a friend would not work.
Nimoy made Spock demonstrably different. He was an alien, yet he was a product of a human-alien union, a friend, a confidant, a moral authority. He was patient in the face of the good-natured, yet often caustic comments made about him and his race by Dr. McCoy.
He showed that aliens in sci-fi did not have to be bug-eyed world destroyers, but rather could be integrated into a larger society and contribute immensely to that society.
Without Spock, the concept of the Federation, and the mindset that any alien, no matter how much of an enemy they might be could and would eventually become a friend would not work.
I think it was Spock's wisdom that meant a lot to me. I've been listening to various podcasts and tributes for Nimoy over the weekend and the scene where Spock was talking to Valaris in Star Trek VI was played. I don't know all the dialogue, but he talks about faith and how Wisdom is the beginning of logic, not the end and his calmness demeanor felt like the culmination of Spock in Star Trek.
Actually I thought that in TUC Spock spoke very little like a Vulcan and much more like a human being, which is probably why Valeris didn't understand him.
"Logic is the beginning of wisdom, Valeris, not the end."
Thank you, I suck at quotes.
As for this being more human than Vulcan, I'd like to think this film he finally found a balance between his humanity and Vulcan culture. Considering him dying, comi back and not being all there, it made sense to me that he would act normal in the final original trek film.
Forget the onions. There's no need for excuses. I'm tearing up at that lovely scene.
SPOCK: I love you. However, I hate you.
ALICE: But we are identical in every way.
SPOCK: Exactly.
ALICE: But we are identical in every way.
SPOCK: Exactly.
So you're saying that Spock is the one that owned Alice initially? That certainly would explain a lot...
Alice series idontknowthenumbers. From I, Mudd.
ON HEARING OF THE PASSING OF LEONARD SIMON NIMOY
Preamble 1:
On hearing of the passing of Leonard Simon Nimoy(1931-2015) and his funeral on 1 March 2014, I put together some of my writing about him and his role in Star-Trek which brought him fame and wealth. The following prose-poetic work will serve for me as a sort of quasi-eulogy. I have also integrated his life and my own since both he and I have had a keen interest in autobiography, and I find such personal mixing and synthesis to be personally heuristic providing pleasurable speculative writing. Some readers may find this personal synchronicity annoying and for this I apologize before readers get going here with the following prose-poetic work.
Nimoy was an American actor, film director, poet, singer and photographer. He was known for his role as Spock in the original Star Trek series (1966–69), and his roles in multiple film, television and video-game sequels. I won't give you chapter and verse of his bio-data, beyond some general remarks below, because you can read about him in cyberspace; you can even watch a eulogistic-video that went online in the first 24 hours after his passing, and there is now a massive literature on the internet about his life.
Nimoy was born to Jewish immigrant parents in Boston, Massachusetts in the depression. My parents first met in the late 1930s or very early 1940s while Nimoy was still a child. He began his career at the same stage in the life-span as I did, in his early twenties. He and I had quite different careers, his beginning in the 1950s and mine in the 1960s. At first he taught acting classes in Hollywood and, then, made minor film and television appearances through the 1950s, as well as playing the title role in Kid Monk Baroni. Foreshadowing his fame as a semi-alien, he played Narab, one of three Martian invaders in the 1952 movie serial Zombies of the Stratosphere.
Preamble 2:
In the 1950s I began several PT jobs as I finished primary school and then went on to high school and university. In the 1950s I was introduced to the Baha'i Faith which had been in Canada for a little more than half a century at the time, and had only several hundred believers in all of Canada when my mother joined in '53. Nimoy had a Jewish background and a Jewish funeral last Sunday(1/3/'15) the details of which you can read about on Wikipedia and a BBC website.
At his funeral the Rabbi who spoke said: "At the moment Leonard’s soul left him on Friday (27/2/'15) morning, his family had gathered around him in a ring of love. Leonard smiled, and then he was gone. It was gentle passing, as easy as a “hair being lifted from a cup of milk,” as the Talmud describes the moment of death. What did Leonard see? We can’t know, but Susan imagines that he beheld his beloved cocker spaniel Molly, an angelic presence in life and now in death."
Preamble 3:
In 1965 Nimoy made his first appearance in the rejected Star Trek pilot The Cage, and went on to play the character of Mr. Spock until 1969. By then I had graduated from university with a B.A. and a B.Ed., and had left Baffin Island where I had my first FT job teaching Inuit children to return to Ontario's Golden Horseshoe where I had been born and raised. Star-Trek was followed by eight feature films and guest slots in the various spin-off series. The character has had a significant cultural impact, and it had garnered Nimoy three Emmy Award nominations; TV Guide named Spock one of the 50 greatest TV characters. After the original Star Trek series, Nimoy starred in Mission: Impossible for two seasons, hosted a documentary series, narrated Civilization IV, and made several well-received stage appearances. He also had a recurring role in the science fiction series Fringe.
Preamble 4:
Nimoy's fame as Spock was such that both of his autobiographies, I Am Not Spock (1975) and I Am Spock(1995), were written from the viewpoint of sharing his existence with the character. I had taken an interest in Nimoy because I, too, had developed an interest in autobiography by the time Nimoy had completed both volumes, and I was on my way to an early retirement, a sea-change to a small town by the sea in Tasmania, at the age of 55 after a 50 year student-and-paid-employment life, 1949 to 1999.-Ron Price, Pioneering Over Five Epochs, 28/2/'15 to 4/3/'15.
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STAR-TREK
Modern Man in Search of A Soul1
Section 1:
You can read about the documentary Star-Trek: The True Story, at the following link. This doco was originally televised more than two years ago on 5/1/'13 in the US on the Discovery Channel. Go to: http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_True_Story. There is no need for me to give you, therefore, the details of this program that I watched last night,2 as the cocktail of anti-psychotic and anti-depressant medication for my bipolar I disorder began to take effect and produce its sleepy-euphoric state, and as I was enjoying my late-night snack
I have enjoyed many of the Star-Trek episodes over the years since its inception in 1966 when I was just beginning my teacher training to obtain a B.Ed. from the University of Windsor to add to my three year B.A. at McMaster University where I had been a student in a four-year honours sociology, history and philosophy course in Ontario Canada.1 -Ron Price with thanks to: 1 Carl Jung, 1933, and 2ABC TV, 10:55 to 11:40 p.m. 28 July 2013.
The Star-Trek Franchise created by Roddenberry has produced story material for five decades, all of my adult-life. It resulted in six television series consisting of 726 episodes, and twelve feature films. The popularity of the Star Trek universe and films inspired the parody, homage, and cult film Galaxy Quest in 1999 which was released as I was retiring from a 50 year student-working life: 1949-1999. Star-Trek also inspired many books, video games and fan films set in the various "eras" of the Star Trek universe which readers can read about in detail at Wikipedia.
Section 2:
I watched many episodes of Star-Trek
back in the 1980s and 1990s while my
son was growing-up….I never became
the enthusiast both he and his mother,
my wife, were and still are, as this TV
series continues its life beyond its first
decades toward the century: 1966-2066.
I found it interesting, somewhat surprising,
to hear about Roddenbery’s shortcomings
and failings as a human being......So often
we know so little about the real person in
life.....even if they run-the-gauntlet of the
TV interview. Perhaps that is why Freud
said......"true biography can't be written".
Still, writers will keep trying to unearth the
inside story of some human being. And so
it is that biographies and autobiographies
will continue on their merry-way into the
future as we try to understand ourselves!!1
Leonard Nimoy is a good example of such
a writer who plumbed-the-depths of his self
in his two volumes of Spock-autobiography.
Section 3:
1 “A man like me,” wrote Freud, “cannot live without a hobby-horse, a consuming passion,” in Schiller's words---a tyrant.” Johann Christoph Friedrich von Schiller(1759-1805) was a German poet, philosopher, historian, and playwright. “I have found my tyrant,” continued Freud, “and in his service I know no limits. My tyrant is psychology. It has always been my distant, beckoning goal and now… it has come so much the nearer.” Perhaps sci-fi was Roddenberry’s ‘tyrant’. I certainly know the tyrants in my life; indeed, there are several. I slowly became accustomed to them in the 1950s and 1960s: (i) before graduating from university in 1966/7 and (ii) before working within the Baha'i administrative Order in Canada's most southerly city, Windsor Ontario, in 1966/7.
1.1 “The life-work of Freud had been devoted to understanding as fully as possible the world of man’s soul. To Freud psyche and soul were the same, conscious and unconscious mental life. Psychoanalysis is the science of the soul.”--Erich Fromm, The Art of Listening, Constable, London, 1994, p.75.
1.2 Dreams are the result of the activity of our own soul. -Sigmund Freud in Freud and Man’s Soul, Bruno Bettleheim, A.A. Knopf, NY, 1983, p.71. The goal of psychoanalysis is to integrate the emotional life and the intellectual life. idem. Your unconsciousness is your companion. Persona is a protection. In my case my dreams, at least since going on my present cocktail of medications, seem to be the result of the affects of these medications on my brain. The result is what the psychologist Alfred Adler said of dreams: "dreams and common sense are arch enemies."
1.3 “I am actually not at all a man of science, not an observer, not an experimenter, not a thinker. I am by temperament nothing but a conquistador. A conquistador is an adventurer, if you want it translated, and in my case it is a conquistador with all the curiosity, daring, and tenacity characteristic of a man of this sort.”–Freud in a Letter to Wilhelm Fliess, Feb. 1, 1900. The Complete Letters of Sigmund Freud to Wilhelm Fliess 1887-1904 (1985).
1.4 “The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing. Ultimately, after endlessly repeated rebuffs, it succeeds. This is one of the few points in which we can be optimistic about the future of mankind; in itself it signifies not a little.”
Ron Price......29/7/’13 to 4/3/'15.
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STAR TREK: THE LAST STAGE OF HISTORY OPENS
"The Hanging Gardens, a current project of the Baha’is in Haifa, will be the most beautiful gardens in the world."-These are the words of Ya’acov Ron, the then Managing Director of the Haifa Tourism Board back in the 1990s.
Just after the first message to youth
in the third year of that Plan,1 and
in the same week that I left home
to complete my university life in
teacher-training in Canada's most
southerly city of Windsor Ontario,
a sci-fi epic2 with the thrill of those
Saturday morning serials began and
it took us on a wagon train to stars
and galaxies where no man had ever
gone before. It was a world of the
imagination. The House of Justice
had taken those youth right back to
basics travelling in a quite familiar
galaxy, dealing with 3 great fields of
service3 & radiating the Message to
those among their contemporaries.
Meanwhile, in a poetic and romantic land
of dreams, in far-off galaxies, Rodenberry
Land, our perceptual reality was framed as
part of a new shift of vision to a planetary
civilization, electronic information systems
and world-wide webs: we were all getting
ready, little did we know, for a very great
fertilization of seeds long ago planted and
a begeming of our lives with these new &
heavenly teachings. For they had come with
confirmations & assistance from a threshold
of Oneness that is now in Hanging Gardens.
Ron Price
1/1/'97 to 4/3/'15.
1 The Nine Year Plan: 1964-1973
2 term used to describe Star Trek in the script of the TV program “Star Trek-30 Years and Beyond”.
3 Universal House of Justice, First ‘Message to Youth’ on 10 June 1966.
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Preamble 1:
On hearing of the passing of Leonard Simon Nimoy(1931-2015) and his funeral on 1 March 2014, I put together some of my writing about him and his role in Star-Trek which brought him fame and wealth. The following prose-poetic work will serve for me as a sort of quasi-eulogy. I have also integrated his life and my own since both he and I have had a keen interest in autobiography, and I find such personal mixing and synthesis to be personally heuristic providing pleasurable speculative writing. Some readers may find this personal synchronicity annoying and for this I apologize before readers get going here with the following prose-poetic work.
Nimoy was an American actor, film director, poet, singer and photographer. He was known for his role as Spock in the original Star Trek series (1966–69), and his roles in multiple film, television and video-game sequels. I won't give you chapter and verse of his bio-data, beyond some general remarks below, because you can read about him in cyberspace; you can even watch a eulogistic-video that went online in the first 24 hours after his passing, and there is now a massive literature on the internet about his life.
Nimoy was born to Jewish immigrant parents in Boston, Massachusetts in the depression. My parents first met in the late 1930s or very early 1940s while Nimoy was still a child. He began his career at the same stage in the life-span as I did, in his early twenties. He and I had quite different careers, his beginning in the 1950s and mine in the 1960s. At first he taught acting classes in Hollywood and, then, made minor film and television appearances through the 1950s, as well as playing the title role in Kid Monk Baroni. Foreshadowing his fame as a semi-alien, he played Narab, one of three Martian invaders in the 1952 movie serial Zombies of the Stratosphere.
Preamble 2:
In the 1950s I began several PT jobs as I finished primary school and then went on to high school and university. In the 1950s I was introduced to the Baha'i Faith which had been in Canada for a little more than half a century at the time, and had only several hundred believers in all of Canada when my mother joined in '53. Nimoy had a Jewish background and a Jewish funeral last Sunday(1/3/'15) the details of which you can read about on Wikipedia and a BBC website.
At his funeral the Rabbi who spoke said: "At the moment Leonard’s soul left him on Friday (27/2/'15) morning, his family had gathered around him in a ring of love. Leonard smiled, and then he was gone. It was gentle passing, as easy as a “hair being lifted from a cup of milk,” as the Talmud describes the moment of death. What did Leonard see? We can’t know, but Susan imagines that he beheld his beloved cocker spaniel Molly, an angelic presence in life and now in death."
Preamble 3:
In 1965 Nimoy made his first appearance in the rejected Star Trek pilot The Cage, and went on to play the character of Mr. Spock until 1969. By then I had graduated from university with a B.A. and a B.Ed., and had left Baffin Island where I had my first FT job teaching Inuit children to return to Ontario's Golden Horseshoe where I had been born and raised. Star-Trek was followed by eight feature films and guest slots in the various spin-off series. The character has had a significant cultural impact, and it had garnered Nimoy three Emmy Award nominations; TV Guide named Spock one of the 50 greatest TV characters. After the original Star Trek series, Nimoy starred in Mission: Impossible for two seasons, hosted a documentary series, narrated Civilization IV, and made several well-received stage appearances. He also had a recurring role in the science fiction series Fringe.
Preamble 4:
Nimoy's fame as Spock was such that both of his autobiographies, I Am Not Spock (1975) and I Am Spock(1995), were written from the viewpoint of sharing his existence with the character. I had taken an interest in Nimoy because I, too, had developed an interest in autobiography by the time Nimoy had completed both volumes, and I was on my way to an early retirement, a sea-change to a small town by the sea in Tasmania, at the age of 55 after a 50 year student-and-paid-employment life, 1949 to 1999.-Ron Price, Pioneering Over Five Epochs, 28/2/'15 to 4/3/'15.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
STAR-TREK
Modern Man in Search of A Soul1
Section 1:
You can read about the documentary Star-Trek: The True Story, at the following link. This doco was originally televised more than two years ago on 5/1/'13 in the US on the Discovery Channel. Go to: http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_True_Story. There is no need for me to give you, therefore, the details of this program that I watched last night,2 as the cocktail of anti-psychotic and anti-depressant medication for my bipolar I disorder began to take effect and produce its sleepy-euphoric state, and as I was enjoying my late-night snack
I have enjoyed many of the Star-Trek episodes over the years since its inception in 1966 when I was just beginning my teacher training to obtain a B.Ed. from the University of Windsor to add to my three year B.A. at McMaster University where I had been a student in a four-year honours sociology, history and philosophy course in Ontario Canada.1 -Ron Price with thanks to: 1 Carl Jung, 1933, and 2ABC TV, 10:55 to 11:40 p.m. 28 July 2013.
The Star-Trek Franchise created by Roddenberry has produced story material for five decades, all of my adult-life. It resulted in six television series consisting of 726 episodes, and twelve feature films. The popularity of the Star Trek universe and films inspired the parody, homage, and cult film Galaxy Quest in 1999 which was released as I was retiring from a 50 year student-working life: 1949-1999. Star-Trek also inspired many books, video games and fan films set in the various "eras" of the Star Trek universe which readers can read about in detail at Wikipedia.
Section 2:
I watched many episodes of Star-Trek
back in the 1980s and 1990s while my
son was growing-up….I never became
the enthusiast both he and his mother,
my wife, were and still are, as this TV
series continues its life beyond its first
decades toward the century: 1966-2066.
I found it interesting, somewhat surprising,
to hear about Roddenbery’s shortcomings
and failings as a human being......So often
we know so little about the real person in
life.....even if they run-the-gauntlet of the
TV interview. Perhaps that is why Freud
said......"true biography can't be written".
Still, writers will keep trying to unearth the
inside story of some human being. And so
it is that biographies and autobiographies
will continue on their merry-way into the
future as we try to understand ourselves!!1
Leonard Nimoy is a good example of such
a writer who plumbed-the-depths of his self
in his two volumes of Spock-autobiography.
Section 3:
1 “A man like me,” wrote Freud, “cannot live without a hobby-horse, a consuming passion,” in Schiller's words---a tyrant.” Johann Christoph Friedrich von Schiller(1759-1805) was a German poet, philosopher, historian, and playwright. “I have found my tyrant,” continued Freud, “and in his service I know no limits. My tyrant is psychology. It has always been my distant, beckoning goal and now… it has come so much the nearer.” Perhaps sci-fi was Roddenberry’s ‘tyrant’. I certainly know the tyrants in my life; indeed, there are several. I slowly became accustomed to them in the 1950s and 1960s: (i) before graduating from university in 1966/7 and (ii) before working within the Baha'i administrative Order in Canada's most southerly city, Windsor Ontario, in 1966/7.
1.1 “The life-work of Freud had been devoted to understanding as fully as possible the world of man’s soul. To Freud psyche and soul were the same, conscious and unconscious mental life. Psychoanalysis is the science of the soul.”--Erich Fromm, The Art of Listening, Constable, London, 1994, p.75.
1.2 Dreams are the result of the activity of our own soul. -Sigmund Freud in Freud and Man’s Soul, Bruno Bettleheim, A.A. Knopf, NY, 1983, p.71. The goal of psychoanalysis is to integrate the emotional life and the intellectual life. idem. Your unconsciousness is your companion. Persona is a protection. In my case my dreams, at least since going on my present cocktail of medications, seem to be the result of the affects of these medications on my brain. The result is what the psychologist Alfred Adler said of dreams: "dreams and common sense are arch enemies."
1.3 “I am actually not at all a man of science, not an observer, not an experimenter, not a thinker. I am by temperament nothing but a conquistador. A conquistador is an adventurer, if you want it translated, and in my case it is a conquistador with all the curiosity, daring, and tenacity characteristic of a man of this sort.”–Freud in a Letter to Wilhelm Fliess, Feb. 1, 1900. The Complete Letters of Sigmund Freud to Wilhelm Fliess 1887-1904 (1985).
1.4 “The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing. Ultimately, after endlessly repeated rebuffs, it succeeds. This is one of the few points in which we can be optimistic about the future of mankind; in itself it signifies not a little.”
Ron Price......29/7/’13 to 4/3/'15.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
STAR TREK: THE LAST STAGE OF HISTORY OPENS
"The Hanging Gardens, a current project of the Baha’is in Haifa, will be the most beautiful gardens in the world."-These are the words of Ya’acov Ron, the then Managing Director of the Haifa Tourism Board back in the 1990s.
Just after the first message to youth
in the third year of that Plan,1 and
in the same week that I left home
to complete my university life in
teacher-training in Canada's most
southerly city of Windsor Ontario,
a sci-fi epic2 with the thrill of those
Saturday morning serials began and
it took us on a wagon train to stars
and galaxies where no man had ever
gone before. It was a world of the
imagination. The House of Justice
had taken those youth right back to
basics travelling in a quite familiar
galaxy, dealing with 3 great fields of
service3 & radiating the Message to
those among their contemporaries.
Meanwhile, in a poetic and romantic land
of dreams, in far-off galaxies, Rodenberry
Land, our perceptual reality was framed as
part of a new shift of vision to a planetary
civilization, electronic information systems
and world-wide webs: we were all getting
ready, little did we know, for a very great
fertilization of seeds long ago planted and
a begeming of our lives with these new &
heavenly teachings. For they had come with
confirmations & assistance from a threshold
of Oneness that is now in Hanging Gardens.
Ron Price
1/1/'97 to 4/3/'15.
1 The Nine Year Plan: 1964-1973
2 term used to describe Star Trek in the script of the TV program “Star Trek-30 Years and Beyond”.
3 Universal House of Justice, First ‘Message to Youth’ on 10 June 1966.
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