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The Least Disliked Time Travel/Anomaly/Loop Story

All our yesterdays. Spock reverts to a pre-logic agressive vulcan because he travelled to the past? Nonsense.


TAS, Season 1: “Yesteryear”
TNG, Season 3: “Yesterday’s Enterprise”
TNG, Season 6: “Timescape”
DS9, Season 2: “Visionary”
DS9, Season 4: “Accession”
DS9, Season 5: “Trials And Tribble-Ations”
DS9, Season 5: “Children Of Time”
VOY, Season 3: “Before And After”
VOY, Season 4: "Year Of Hell, Part I"
VOY, Season 4: "Year Of Hell, Part II"
VOY, Season 5: “Timeless”
VOY, Season 6: "Blink Of An Eye"
VOY, Season 7: “Shattered”
DIS, Season 1: “Magic To Make The Sanest Man Go Mad”
DIS, Season 2: “Perpetual Infinity” [spoiler tag your elimination reasons]
DIS, Season 2: “Through The Valley Of Shadows” [spoiler tag your elimination reasons]
DIS, Season 2: "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part I" [spoiler tag your elimination reasons]
DIS, Season 2: “Such Sweet Sorrow, Part II” [spoiler tag your elimination reasons]
 
We've reached the point where everything left is in the good-to-fantastic range. I'll ax "Perpetual Infinity"
for the same reason I recently cut "The Red Angel", this is the point where the plot mechanics really grind and you feel the struggle of trying to land this season arc. There's things to enjoy about it, but it's not an episode that unfolds smoothly.

TAS, Season 1: “Yesteryear”
TNG, Season 3: “Yesterday’s Enterprise”
TNG, Season 6: “Timescape”
DS9, Season 2: “Visionary”
DS9, Season 4: “Accession”
DS9, Season 5: “Trials And Tribble-Ations”
DS9, Season 5: “Children Of Time”
VOY, Season 3: “Before And After”
VOY, Season 4: "Year Of Hell, Part I"
VOY, Season 4: "Year Of Hell, Part II"
VOY, Season 5: “Timeless”
VOY, Season 6: "Blink Of An Eye"
VOY, Season 7: “Shattered”
DIS, Season 1: “Magic To Make The Sanest Man Go Mad”
DIS, Season 2: “Through The Valley Of Shadows” [spoiler tag your elimination reasons]
DIS, Season 2: "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part I" [spoiler tag your elimination reasons]
DIS, Season 2: “Such Sweet Sorrow, Part II” [spoiler tag your elimination reasons]
 
TAS, Season 1: “Yesteryear”
TNG, Season 3: “Yesterday’s Enterprise”
TNG, Season 6: “Timescape”
DS9, Season 2: “Visionary”
DS9, Season 4: “Accession”
DS9, Season 5: “Trials And Tribble-Ations”
DS9, Season 5: “Children Of Time”
VOY, Season 3: “Before And After”
VOY, Season 4: "Year Of Hell, Part I"
VOY, Season 4: "Year Of Hell, Part II"
VOY, Season 5: “Timeless”
VOY, Season 6: "Blink Of An Eye"
VOY, Season 7: “Shattered”
DIS, Season 1: “Magic To Make The Sanest Man Go Mad”
DIS, Season 2: “Through The Valley Of Shadows” [spoiler tag your elimination reasons]
DIS, Season 2: "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part I" [spoiler tag your elimination reasons]


I will eliminate "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part II". I don't know how to spoiler tag, but my reason would not actually give anything away. However, I will not say it just in case it may be construed as a spoiler.
 
TAS, Season 1: “Yesteryear”
TNG, Season 3: “Yesterday’s Enterprise”
TNG, Season 6: “Timescape”
DS9, Season 2: “Visionary”
DS9, Season 4: “Accession”
DS9, Season 5: “Trials And Tribble-Ations”
DS9, Season 5: “Children Of Time”
VOY, Season 3: “Before And After”
VOY, Season 4: "Year Of Hell, Part I"
VOY, Season 4: "Year Of Hell, Part II"
VOY, Season 5: “Timeless”
VOY, Season 6: "Blink Of An Eye"
VOY, Season 7: “Shattered”
DIS, Season 2: “Through The Valley Of Shadows” [spoiler tag your elimination reasons]
DIS, Season 2: "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part I" [spoiler tag your elimination reasons]

"Magic to make..." is gone. It was a very entertaining episode, but doesn't measure up to how this concept has been handled by a few other shows, including Star Trek.
 
DIS, Season 1: “Magic To Make The Sanest Man Go Mad”

If these are professionals a decade out from our Kirk, seeing fry cooks playing beer pong is a really bad start... Harry Mudd's out of place where even fan fiction taped with a VHS camcorder would come across with a more professional feeling script. And the story revolves around the magic mushroom drive anyway. If nothing else, real sci-fi isn't about magic. Is the title trolling the audience or merely insulting them?

TAS, Season 1: “Yesteryear”
TNG, Season 3: “Yesterday’s Enterprise”
TNG, Season 6: “Timescape”
DS9, Season 2: “Visionary”
DS9, Season 4: “Accession”
DS9, Season 5: “Trials And Tribble-Ations”
DS9, Season 5: “Children Of Time”
VOY, Season 3: “Before And After”
VOY, Season 4: "Year Of Hell, Part I"
VOY, Season 4: "Year Of Hell, Part II"
VOY, Season 5: “Timeless”
VOY, Season 6: "Blink Of An Eye"
VOY, Season 7: “Shattered”
DIS, Season 2: “Through The Valley Of Shadows” [spoiler tag your elimination reasons]
DIS, Season 2: "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part I" [spoiler tag your elimination reasons]
 
Timeless, Harry and Chakotay are the sole survivors. Why not some interesting characters?


TAS, Season 1: “Yesteryear”
TNG, Season 3: “Yesterday’s Enterprise”
TNG, Season 6: “Timescape”
DS9, Season 2: “Visionary”
DS9, Season 4: “Accession”
DS9, Season 5: “Trials And Tribble-Ations”
DS9, Season 5: “Children Of Time”
VOY, Season 3: “Before And After”
VOY, Season 4: "Year Of Hell, Part I"
VOY, Season 4: "Year Of Hell, Part II"
VOY, Season 6: "Blink Of An Eye"
VOY, Season 7: “Shattered”
DIS, Season 2: “Through The Valley Of Shadows” [spoiler tag your elimination reasons]
DIS, Season 2: "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part I" [spoiler tag your elimination reasons]
 
Hard but have to go with “Timescape” all the other are Right away remember them for their plot "Timescape" I remeber for Picard drawing a smiley Face in coolant
TAS, Season 1: “Yesteryear”
TNG, Season 3: “Yesterday’s Enterprise”
DS9, Season 2: “Visionary”
DS9, Season 4: “Accession”
DS9, Season 5: “Trials And Tribble-Ations”
DS9, Season 5: “Children Of Time”
VOY, Season 3: “Before And After”
VOY, Season 4: "Year Of Hell, Part I"
VOY, Season 4: "Year Of Hell, Part II"
VOY, Season 6: "Blink Of An Eye"
VOY, Season 7: “Shattered”
DIS, Season 2: “Through The Valley Of Shadows” [spoiler tag your elimination reasons]
DIS, Season 2: "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part I" [spoiler tag your elimination reasons]
 
YOH part 2 - reset button


TAS, Season 1: “Yesteryear”
TNG, Season 3: “Yesterday’s Enterprise”
DS9, Season 2: “Visionary”
DS9, Season 4: “Accession”
DS9, Season 5: “Trials And Tribble-Ations”
DS9, Season 5: “Children Of Time”
VOY, Season 3: “Before And After”
VOY, Season 4: "Year Of Hell, Part I"
VOY, Season 6: "Blink Of An Eye"
VOY, Season 7: “Shattered”
DIS, Season 2: “Through The Valley Of Shadows” [spoiler tag your elimination reasons]
DIS, Season 2: "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part I" [spoiler tag your elimination reasons
 
Removing Shattered.

It comes from a time in Voyager time travel was so overused it was like "Oh, yet ANOTHER time travel episode". And it's one of those episodes where the action does not logically track in the slightest and seems to exist for fanservice, bringing back Seska and such. And they missed an opportunity to have future Icheb and Naomi pass some critical information to Chakotay that could be used to get home.

Is Yesteryear actually a good episode or has it made it this far because most people haven't seen TAS?

TAS, Season 1: “Yesteryear”
TNG, Season 3: “Yesterday’s Enterprise”
DS9, Season 2: “Visionary”
DS9, Season 4: “Accession”
DS9, Season 5: “Trials And Tribble-Ations”
DS9, Season 5: “Children Of Time”
VOY, Season 3: “Before And After”
VOY, Season 4: "Year Of Hell, Part I"
VOY, Season 6: "Blink Of An Eye"
DIS, Season 2: “Through The Valley Of Shadows” [spoiler tag your elimination reasons]
DIS, Season 2: "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part I" [spoiler tag your elimination reasons
 
Is Yesteryear actually a good episode or has it made it this far because most people haven't seen TAS?

I think that's why Discovery lasted so long, also the lack of clear episodes rather than an ongoing narative makes it harder to remember the plot of each given one.
 
Is Yesteryear actually a good episode or has it made it this far because most people haven't seen TAS?

"Yesteryear" is actually good, IMO. Often with TAS, I literally can't get through it. I pause it, I walk away, I get distracted, I can't focus on it. "Yesteryear" grabbed my attention, held it the whole time, and I was so moved by the ending I actually teared up a little. It's written by D.C. Fontana and Mark Lenard is back voicing Sarek, so it feels very much of a piece with "Journey To Babel" and Spock's story as a whole.

The episode also works with the restrictions and possibilities of it's animated format really well -- on one level it's a small story, perfectly suited to the abbreviated 24 minute running time. But it's also so big in terms of it's visuals... we go back to the Guardian of Forever's planet, we're all over different locations on Vulcan.

Plus it has this great incidental Andorian character who is JACKED for some reason, which is just a fun detail.

I've seen other write-ups citing "Yesteryear" as THE star episode of TAS, so I think this view is shared reasonably widely, as far as these things go in a fandom where there's no consensus on anything. :bolian:
 
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Accession is out because I dislike how influential the emissary is portrayed in this episode, the bajorans are willing to throw away federation membership and reorganize their entire society because one guy says so?


TAS, Season 1: “Yesteryear”
TNG, Season 3: “Yesterday’s Enterprise”
DS9, Season 2: “Visionary”
DS9, Season 5: “Trials And Tribble-Ations”
DS9, Season 5: “Children Of Time”
VOY, Season 3: “Before And After”
VOY, Season 4: "Year Of Hell, Part I"
VOY, Season 6: "Blink Of An Eye"
DIS, Season 2: “Through The Valley Of Shadows” [spoiler tag your elimination reasons]
DIS, Season 2: "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part I" [spoiler tag your elimination reasons
 
I'm removing Yesterday's Enterprise. It's a great episode, but when I watch it now, there are a lot of moments that feel a little hokey, like the Tasha Yar/Shooter McGavin romance, or some of Guinan's conversations.

TAS, Season 1: “Yesteryear”
DS9, Season 2: “Visionary”
DS9, Season 5: “Trials And Tribble-Ations”
DS9, Season 5: “Children Of Time”
VOY, Season 3: “Before And After”
VOY, Season 4: "Year Of Hell, Part I"
VOY, Season 6: "Blink Of An Eye"
DIS, Season 2: “Through The Valley Of Shadows” [spoiler tag your elimination reasons]
DIS, Season 2: "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part I" [spoiler tag your elimination reasons

I think that's why Discovery lasted so long, also the lack of clear episodes rather than an ongoing narative makes it harder to remember the plot of each given one.
It's true. I haven't seen those(season 2) episodes, and can't vote on them.
 
VOY, Season 6: "Blink Of An Eye": For its predictability. I knew from the start that it would end with the "evolved" planet helping Voyager to get out of its predicament, I even knew that at some point they'd be in danger of being blown off, either by being fired upon or because some sudden change would worsen their condition.

TAS, Season 1: “Yesteryear”
DS9, Season 2: “Visionary”
DS9, Season 5: “Trials And Tribble-Ations”
DS9, Season 5: “Children Of Time”
VOY, Season 3: “Before And After”
VOY, Season 4: "Year Of Hell, Part I"
DIS, Season 2: “Through The Valley Of Shadows” [spoiler tag your elimination reasons]
DIS, Season 2: "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part I" [spoiler tag your elimination reasons
 
I'll eliminate Such Sweet Sorrow I...

I think it was unneccssary for Such Sweet Sorrow to be split into two parts. Part II was a wonderful end to the season, whereas part I just moved a few pieces abou in anticipation of the bg final battle.

Edited because Such Sweet Sorry doesn't have the same ring to it.

TAS, Season 1: “Yesteryear”
DS9, Season 2: “Visionary”
DS9, Season 5: “Trials And Tribble-Ations”
DS9, Season 5: “Children Of Time”
VOY, Season 3: “Before And After”
VOY, Season 4: "Year Of Hell, Part I"
DIS, Season 2: “Through The Valley Of Shadows” [spoiler tag your elimination reasons]

I love Yesteryear so I'm glad it's made it this far, even if some of my favourites have fallen along the way. It was a wonderful extension to Spock's character, building on what we knew of him and his famiy from TOS. It's easily my favourite TAS episode out of what I've seen.
 
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I'll get rid of "Visionary." A very solid, well-executed episode, but there's nothing about it that's "special" the way the rest of these are for me.

TAS, Season 1: “Yesteryear”
DS9, Season 5: “Trials And Tribble-Ations”
DS9, Season 5: “Children Of Time”
VOY, Season 3: “Before And After”
VOY, Season 4: "Year Of Hell, Part I"
DIS, Season 2: “Through The Valley Of Shadows” [spoiler tag your elimination reasons]
 
TAS, Season 1: “Yesteryear”
DS9, Season 5: “Trials And Tribble-Ations”
DS9, Season 5: “Children Of Time”
VOY, Season 3: “Before And After”
VOY, Season 4: "Year Of Hell, Part I"


"Through the Valley of Shadows" goes. I don't know how to spoiler tag, but my reason is simply I feel the other episodes are just better. Still a great episode, though.
 
Children of Time has failed to break through the atmosphere. Wonderful episode, but OMG is "Sexy Odo" selfish in this one

TAS, Season 1: “Yesteryear”
DS9, Season 5: “Trials And Tribble-Ations”
VOY, Season 3: “Before And After”
VOY, Season 4: "Year Of Hell, Part I"

I too love Yesteryear. I could never remove it.
 
Trials and Tribble-Ations is out. It's too self aware and basically winking at the audience in several scenes.

TAS, Season 1: “Yesteryear”
VOY, Season 3: “Before And After”
VOY, Season 4: "Year Of Hell, Part I"
 
Year of hell has to go for how terrible is was to the legacy of Before and After


TAS, Season 1: “Yesteryear”
VOY, Season 3: “Before And After”
 
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