The Least Disliked Episode of TNG - Season Three
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Sins of The Father is a good show but far from Season 3's best. I'd like it more if TNG hadn't overdone all the Klingon politics to death afterwards. Funny how in 1990 it must have seemed so fresh while more traditional TNG episodes up until that time standout more for me today.
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The same could be said about the Borg, Voyager did them to death and then some.
When you get down to it there were a lot of great episodes of season 3. When you're getting down to knocking out an episode because of one minor scene or character (like me knocking out Deja Q just because I didn't care for the alternate Q--who was basically a peripheral character) you know you probably have some good episodes.
Really any of the top 10 episodes could have won it all. They were that good.
Really any of the top 10 episodes could have won it all. They were that good.
I agree it's maybe the best season of the series. I can't be sure because I never seriously asked myself that question but it's a definite possibility.
Never watched Voyager after 1996.
Maybe but this isn't about the best episode, it's about the least disliked.
It's season 4.
This was my realization the other day -- with TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT alike, the best season on all of them was season 4.I think Sins of the Father is middle of the pack for season three, maybe slightly above. YE is the second best episode of the whole series run, in my book.
Yesterday's Enterprise is a reset button episode, one of the reasons it's good because the writers don't have to hold back, they can show a more militaristic starfleet, they can have the federation on the losing side of a war, they can kill of main characters etc. because in the end nothing matters. The only thing of consequence that eventually comes from this episode is the existence of Sela.
Sins of the Father matters, it has a significant impact on Worf as a person and how we see the klingon empire, it starts a story of political intrigue, assassinations and revenge, it even affects DS9 in its second half. It's probably one of the most important episodes of the Berman era as a whole, very few episodes had such a huge impact.
Yesterday's Enterprise still gives me chills.
I agree with you on SOTF though. It set up a lot of plot twists for the future.
I agree with you on SOTF though. It set up a lot of plot twists for the future.
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It's season 4.
ENT? Definitely! they stopped it at the worst possible time! it left me wanting for more.
VOY? It has good episodes in all seasons and very bad episodes in all seasons, maybe season 4 has more than average, maybe not. One thing's for sure, I like the Seven episodes better than the Kes ones. Seven's actress is not just a beautiful body, she's also quite an actress!
DS9? I'd say Season 6, it's definitely the best of all.
TNG? You're right, season 4 is the best with season 3 a not too far second.
Disco? I have a feeling season 10 will be a smash!!!
I don't equate importance with quality. YE gives maximum entertainment. SotF is good, but not great. Encounter at Farpoint is also more important than YE, but it's a substandard episode in terms of quality.
I am sorry but I don't see it as important. For some reason, I missed that episode in my first viewing of the series (along with a handful of others) and I didn't feel like I was missing something. Everything that is "revealed" in that episode is repeated many times in the episodes that follow.
Ditto for Sins of the Father.
The point is, there is a difference between importance and quality.
Well sure, but depending on ones taste, importance can be a key element of quality.
For me it swings both ways. Good episodes that are also important are elevated by that, while important episodes that fail become OFFENSIVE in an outsize way. This is why I particularly want to burn, say, "Sons & Daughters" on DS9 over "worse" episodes -- it was a big 6 episode arc experiment, it was important to make sure one of the pieces didn't flop!
I would also agree with the characterization of "Sins Of The Father" as important, though it's plot developments would be reiterated later (in episodic TV of the 80's/90's, they had to be). And it wasn't obviously important, at first. But it sets the template for what the Klingon story will be for the entire rest of this era of Trek. "Heart Of Glory" and "A Matter Of Honor", those episodes are exploring the Klingons but not committing to a narrative direction the way "Sins" does.
I think I've convinced myself to watch "Sins" right now...
For me it swings both ways. Good episodes that are also important are elevated by that, while important episodes that fail become OFFENSIVE in an outsize way. This is why I particularly want to burn, say, "Sons & Daughters" on DS9 over "worse" episodes -- it was a big 6 episode arc experiment, it was important to make sure one of the pieces didn't flop!
I would also agree with the characterization of "Sins Of The Father" as important, though it's plot developments would be reiterated later (in episodic TV of the 80's/90's, they had to be). And it wasn't obviously important, at first. But it sets the template for what the Klingon story will be for the entire rest of this era of Trek. "Heart Of Glory" and "A Matter Of Honor", those episodes are exploring the Klingons but not committing to a narrative direction the way "Sins" does.
I think I've convinced myself to watch "Sins" right now...
I don't know of anyone who doesn't like "Sarek." It was a real treat to see Spock's dad make a prominent appearance. I loved that dramatic acting scene between Sarek and Picard when Picard was telling him, "Sarek of Vulcan would NEVER be afraid of a truth he didn't want to see. Sarek of Vulcan would NEVER mistake what he wanted with the truth!"
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