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The Least Disliked Episode 2025 - DISCO Season 5

BlueStuff

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So, here's the game. The basic idea is your standard elimination game. I'll provide a list of the episodes for each season and you need to eliminate your least favourite or the one you deem the 'worst.' Please provide an EXPLANATION for why you are eliminating your choice and be sure to copy and paste the list with your choice removed. Finally, leave at least 2 eliminations by other posters before you eliminate another episode.

No tactical voting! You cannot remove an episode just because you feel it would threaten your preferred episode's chance to win.
Pretty simple. Enjoy! :bolian:

Star Trek: Discovery
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2019 - Project Daedalus
2021 - If Memory Serves
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2025 -

Season 5

Red Directive
Under the Twin Moons
Jinaal
Face the Strange
Mirrors
Whistlespeak
Erigah
Labyrinths
Lagrange Point
Life, Itself
 
This season was, overall, a little better than season 4, making this the second best of DISCO.

Taking out "Face the Strange".

The writers just couldn't stay away from time travel stories, despite making time travel 'illegal' on the 32nd century, could they? I'm sick of time travel, and I'm sick of the meltdowns during a ticking clock... like what Stamets was doing with his 'woe is me' meltdown.




Red Directive
Under the Twin Moons
Jinaal
Mirrors
Whistlespeak
Erigah
Labyrinths
Lagrange Point
Life, Itself
 
I gotta start with "Life, Itself." Which I was loving. Until that fucking epilogue they added after they got cancelled!

Each season of Discovery got further in before it would fall apart. S1 started going sideways in it's fourth episode. S2 held it together till episode seven. S3 made it ten before that narrative imploded. And S4 held it together allllll the way to the mid-point of the finale, when we hit Rillak's ridiculous long emotional monologue to the 10-C.

And then we have S5 of Disco, which was fantastic all throughout. "Life, Itself" is a fucking ride, I was loving it more and more, and we reach Saru's wedding, and even though none of this had been planned as the end of the series, it felt like somehow, against all odds, we were getting a PERFECT ending.

And then... that fucking epilogue. It's so stupid! "Calypso" did not need explaining! "Calypso" was obviously a first draft idea of how they'd get to the future, there was no way to tie it in to the rest of this seamlessly, and they'd already effectively explained it by having Zora dreaming about this stuff in "Face The Strange"!!!

I can't get over the hackiness of it. When they got the opportunity to add material to make this a finale, THIS is what they thought they needed to add? Not just... more scenes at the wedding to flesh out everyone's ending, which is a perfect way to wrap things up?

Instead, they decided their one must-address item was to add a pained, tortured, overworked explanation for a stray plot thread, from another series, that THEY HAD ALREADY RESOLVED? And that explanation involves exiling a sweet, sentient being, who derives her meaning in life from caring for others, to spend 1,000 years in a solitude that we know drives her a bit insane? That's the last thing we get to see Burnham do, inflict some cruel and unusual punishment on the gentlest hero this show had, for Reasons?

It's truly the most Discovery thing ever to accidentally, without planning, stumble into the most perfect final season imaginable - and then AT THE LAST POSSIBLE SECOND ruin it by adding one last thing to "make it a finale"!

They were almost there! They were about sign off by delivering their FIRST PERFECT SEASON! All they had to do was STOP FUCKING WITH IT!

AAAGGGGGHHHH!!! And that is my insane rant. Honestly the epilogue of "Life, Itself" makes me crazier than anything else in all of Star Trek. The judgment behind it... not since TATV have we seen that level of stupid.

"Face The Strange", though, that is a top 25 all-franchise classic -- like "Subspace Rhapsody." :bolian:

Red Directive
Under the Twin Moons
Jinaal
Mirrors
Whistlespeak
Erigah
Labyrinths
Lagrange Point
 
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I thought S5 got off to a slow start and I really disliked the way Saru wasn't shown as much.

Red Directive had far too much flash over substance.

Under the Twin Moons
Jinaal
Mirrors
Whistlespeak
Erigah
Labyrinths
Lagrange Point
 
Agreed about Saru being missing for half the episodes. The season, and series, is certainly lesser without him in it. (Though Rayner was an excellent addition to the show.)

Breaking "Mirrors".

It was just completely unnecessary to bring over the Mirror Universe Enterprise. And Stamets jumping immediately to it being that particular one was just... lazy writing.



Under the Twin Moons
Jinaal
Whistlespeak
Erigah
Labyrinths
Lagrange Point
 
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Aside from the hated epilogue in the finale, the only other properly weak episode this season for me is "Mirrors." It felt like they started from a desire to use the SNW set, and then torturously worked backwards until they had come up with this bizarre premise. It's too bad they couldn't get Ethan Peck in there for anything, even just Burnham watching video MU Spock or something. Seeing her react to that could have made the whole thing worthwhile.

Anyway, since that ep is gone already, I'll ax "Lagrange Point." It has some direction problems around the characters being undercover as Breen. That wasn't laid out or shot as well as it could have been.

Under the Twin Moons
Jinaal
Erigah
Labyrinths
 
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