The only thing that would have given the episode any kind of point owuld have been if Jason really had been Picards son. And then they would have just burnt him with Renee and Robert, probably.
The least disliked episode 2021 - TNG Season Seven
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The only thing that would have given the episode any kind of point owuld have been if Jason really had been Picards son. And then they would have just burnt him with Renee and Robert, probably.
Removing Firstborn. More Klingon Crap and yet another Worf/Alexander episode that shows off what a clueless and terrible father Worf is.
Liaisons
Gambit I
Gambit II
Dark Page
Attached
Inheritance
Parallels
The Pegasus
Lower Decks
Thine Own Self
Preemptive Strike
All Good Things...
Liaisons
Gambit I
Gambit II
Dark Page
Attached
Inheritance
Parallels
The Pegasus
Lower Decks
Thine Own Self
Preemptive Strike
All Good Things...
Old alexander comes back to kill his younger self... Yeah, that's like the grampa paradox but even worse!!!
That plot point was so stupid that I completely forgot about it. Could be a case of my brain protecting me from the silliness.
Part of me wants to enjoy this episode, but like my ex, watching someone shriek "LOVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" after an abusive and/or alcoholic and/or druggy binge (and/or after saying they boast about falling off the wagon) really doesn't make for exciting telly, unless it's an over-the-top parody and not trying to be genuinely serious. Even Spock's Brain was bett-- sigh... before I really talk about this episode and/or digress...
What's left:
Gambit I
Gambit II
Dark Page
Attached
Inheritance
Parallels
The Pegasus
Lower Decks
Thine Own Self
Preemptive Strike
All Good Things...
What's left:
Gambit I
Gambit II
Dark Page
Attached
Inheritance
Parallels
The Pegasus
Lower Decks
Thine Own Self
Preemptive Strike
All Good Things...
"Inheritance" because it doesn't make sense. She's an android but the transporter doesn't see it!!! I mean it can filter out microbes, make people younger or older but it can't tell the difference between a pile of circuits and a human being!!!
Also, it's amazing that after making a psychopath followed by someone without emotions, soong was able to copy a human being so perfectly that even a husband couldn't tell the difference!!!
What's left:
Gambit I
Gambit II
Dark Page
Attached
Parallels
The Pegasus
Lower Decks
Thine Own Self
Preemptive Strike
All Good Things...
Also, it's amazing that after making a psychopath followed by someone without emotions, soong was able to copy a human being so perfectly that even a husband couldn't tell the difference!!!
What's left:
Gambit I
Gambit II
Dark Page
Attached
Parallels
The Pegasus
Lower Decks
Thine Own Self
Preemptive Strike
All Good Things...
Great point! This is another reason why I don't like conventional love stories, half of it I don't recognize. Like with the books with the hairless-chested blokes and all that... yeah, in which case something more akin to that might compensate for some of the bizarre dialogue the episode was putting out...
The 1983 original "V" is pretty much a masterpiece that remains tense and claustrophobic nowadays with the sense of unstoppable alien takeover. Kenneth Johnson framed the camera for 16:9, so the home video releases look like what he wanted and the blu-ray remastering is phenomenal. He also had lots of imagery and metaphor in numerous scenes, some less obvious than others and it's all great to find. (The most on-the-nose is the use of "Space Invaders", but there are far more and a few are subtle.) The 1984 "The Final Battle" sequel had Johnson disagreeing with the direction of the show so he left. TFB isn't as layered or as intellectual, and you have to roll with some implausible plot developments here and there, but has enough going for it to remain good, and it starts out fairly great despite one issue, but it's so great that the issue isn't worth ragging on too much. Also, avoid the DVD since they did a matte letterbox conversion that chops off credits and peoples' heads a few too many times. The blu-ray has a marvelous restoration. The 1984-85 weekly series, however, rushed by the network because "The Final Battle" remained well-received, was also neglected and as a result a lot of the audio effects were gone, reused stock footage became way too excessive, which wouldn't have been as bad had the storylines remained consistent. The weekly series actually started out well but loses its way just a little bit with each passing week, cast members start to ditch, the show is retooled in the middle (the updated theme had some promise), but that alone wasn't enough and the season finale did not get filmed as a result. Worse, that script reveals yet another primary cast member was to ditch the series as well. I will say this: If you thought "The A-Team" was dumb because they had a low bullet/body count, "V" makes up for it and then some - and, yeah, cast members may ditch but most of their exits make for compelling drama. "V"'s 1985 stint was just dumb in other ways, when it didn't need to be...
Not that I'm opinionated or anything.
Detaching "Attached." The P/Cer I was when the episode first aired almost threw something at the screen as the show teased the prospect of developing that relationship -- only to quash any such notion in the very last line of the script, a literal "Maybe not"! Decades later, I still think it was a chickenshit move. I guess on TNG status quo was always going to be God, even in Season Seven.
Gambit I
Gambit II
Dark Page
Parallels
The Pegasus
Lower Decks
Thine Own Self
Preemptive Strike
All Good Things...
Gambit I
Gambit II
Dark Page
Parallels
The Pegasus
Lower Decks
Thine Own Self
Preemptive Strike
All Good Things...
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Taking out "Gambit, Part II". Not as good as the first part.
Gambit I
Dark Page
Parallels
The Pegasus
Lower Decks
Thine Own Self
Preemptive Strike
All Good Things...
Gambit I
Dark Page
Parallels
The Pegasus
Lower Decks
Thine Own Self
Preemptive Strike
All Good Things...
I will not to "Thine Own Self" be true. The Data plot's nothing new, and the Troi plot infuriates me. Commander is a rank, not a job title -- there is no reason why the ship's psychologist (or the CMO, for that matter, as we're told Beverly had to meet the same criteria) should have to demonstrate the ability to command a starship in order to move up in rank. Not that the "Bridge Officers' Test" demonstrates any such thing. What kind of a crap test lets you just repeat the exact same scenario over and over until you come up with the desired answer?
Also, this is the episode I mentioned in an earlier round, when I spiked "Disaster." Here's when Troi admits to looking back at the events of her "command" in that episode nostalgically. One downcheck for reminding me of that episode, Troi, and another for making me wonder what's wrong with you.
Dark Page
Parallels
The Pegasus
Lower Decks
All Good Things...
Also, this is the episode I mentioned in an earlier round, when I spiked "Disaster." Here's when Troi admits to looking back at the events of her "command" in that episode nostalgically. One downcheck for reminding me of that episode, Troi, and another for making me wonder what's wrong with you.
Dark Page
Parallels
The Pegasus
Lower Decks
All Good Things...
Great ones are left. Very hard to pick. (I am saddened to see "Masks" is gone, but not surprised given how widely it is hated.)
I choose "Parallels" because it started the Worf/Troi thread for the year.
Dark Page
The Pegasus
Lower Decks
All Good Things...
I choose "Parallels" because it started the Worf/Troi thread for the year.
Dark Page
The Pegasus
Lower Decks
All Good Things...
This is tough, I like all the remaining ones but I'll take out All Good Things because the anomaly doesn't make sense, it moves backwards in time and grows bigger into the past except in the future scenes where it doesn't exist and then expands into the after it's created?
Dark Page
The Pegasus
Lower Decks
Dark Page
The Pegasus
Lower Decks
"All Good Things..." because it's grandstanding that makes no sense. There's no causality, but there is, but there's not... Make up your freaking mind!!! Either it's three timelines or it's one. Plus there's the Worf-Troi relationship that will go nowhere.
Dark Page
The Pegasus
Lower Decks
Dark Page
The Pegasus
Lower Decks
"The Pegasus" because the Romulan treaty is just stupid!
Either both can use the cloaking device or neither!!!
Plus I still resent TATV
Dark Page
Lower Decks
Either both can use the cloaking device or neither!!!
Plus I still resent TATV
Dark Page
Lower Decks
Well, the episode is ok, except maybe the way they treated Sito.
Picard: "I made sure that you're assigned to this ship because I needed Bajoran cannon fodder. So you volunteer for this mission, don't you?"
Picard: "I made sure that you're assigned to this ship because I needed Bajoran cannon fodder. So you volunteer for this mission, don't you?"
Not all relationships go all the way, they didn't know it at the time.
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