The least disliked episode 2021 - TNG Season Five

[Spectre Of The Fun]

always been Team Marr. No evidence the Entity had the faintest interest in communication (and at least some evidence that its abilities along those lines were minimal), and a trail of dead bodies behind it. Now it won't kill again. I'm okay with that, and I think Renny would be too.

Thank you for for slamming this moral misfire of an episode at your earliest opportunity. Happy to find another board member that also holds it in contempt.

I get that the idea was to do yet another morality isn't always black and white sometimes it's gray episode. Unfortunately this sequel hasn't got enough internal logic or consistency with plot points from Datalore to pull it off.

I don't believe Starfleet Command would allow a civilian (expert or not) with a relative killed by the CE on a sensitive mission to track it down. The writing does not convince me.

Also the CE demonstrated in Datalore that it was intelligent enough to conspire with Lore and even understand his deception plan to lower the Enterprise's shields before attacking. It's evil and a menace to innocent life. It should have been hunted down and terminated with extreme prejudice by a Starfleet task force.

As much as I would have liked to see the CE blown to bits by a Nebula Class Starship's photon torpedoes in the end Dr. Marr's form of execution worked out just fine.

Sorry for the rant but I really hate Silicon Avatar.

 

[Qonundrum]

Ethics (aka the battle of pseudo-medical lingo)

Evil Doc: "He's dead"
Bev : "What happened?"
ED : "Low broccoli count"
Bev :" Did you try melted icecream therapy?"
ED :" It wouldn't work, not enough bacon bits"
Bev :" How about rotating his tires?"
ED :" Are you kidding? First he has blue eyes and more importantly... We are TUESDAY!!! Hello!!!"
Bev :"Oh Yeah I forgot about that, so what did you do?"
ED..........:"Intense teeth flossing."
Bev........:"What!!! But that procedure has been discredited by the good doctor committee."
ED........:" The good doctor committee! Are you kidding? One of them is still recommending leeches!"
Bev...:" Well, you know Denobulans..."

Actually, Ens. Fletcher saves Geordi from falling.

Oops. That's right, thanks for clarifying! I think I got dizzy in trying to remember... no more coffee for me this week...

 

[Swedish Borg]

The Outcast:

Soran: Riker, can I talk to you?
Riker: Certainly, what is it about?
Soran: I have a problem
Riker: Go on.
Soran: You know that we're all hermaphrodites, don't you?
Riker: Yes, I heard that.
Soran: That means that each of us has both organs, male and female.
Riker: Ok.
Soran: So that two of us can have, male-male sex, female-female sex, male-female, female-male sex.
Riker: Wow! really! Or you could remain platonic.
Soran: Plato..what?
Riker: I mean remain celibate. A no-sex relationship...
Soran: What's that like?
Riker: Well, I don't know personally, but our Tamarian friends have an expression for it: "Wesley Crusher, anywhere, when the walls fell."
Soran: I see. Interesting.
Riker: So what's your problem?
Soran: We have no sense of fashion!!! Did you see our clothes?. They're awful!! You have to do something, Riker. I can't stand it anymore!!!!

 

[Brennyren]

Thank you for for slamming this moral misfire of an episode at your earliest opportunity. Happy to find another board member that also holds it in contempt.

"Contempt" is right. The whole "we should be trying to talk to it, not trying to kill it" argument seemed unbelievably naïve to me. Hello, it doesn't want to talk to you. And it does want to kill you. And millions of others, given the chance.

I get that the idea was to do yet another morality isn't always black and white sometimes it's gray episode. Unfortunately this sequel hasn't got enough internal logic or consistency with plot points from Datalore to pull it off.

No. The situation as presented actually did seem pretty black and white -- except, oddly, to our heroes.

Also the CE demonstrated in Datalore that it was intelligent enough to conspire with Lore and even understand his deception plan to lower the Enterprise's shields before attacking.

You're right. I'd forgotten about that.

It's evil and a menace to innocent life. It should have been hunted down and terminated with extreme prejudice by a Starfleet task force.

This.

As much as I would have liked to see the CE blown to bits by a Nebula Class Starship's photon torpedoes in the end Dr. Marr's form of execution worked out just fine.

And arguably saved our heroes from being responsible for all the lives the creature would have taken, had it survived.

Sorry for the rant but I really hate Silicon Avatar.

You and me both. I eliminated it in the 2019 round too!

 

[Orphalesion]

No. The situation as presented actually did seem pretty black and white -- except, oddly, to our heroes.

It is! there was never a time in all of Star Trek where I wanted to punch Picard in the face as much as in that sanctimonious scene where he's like "well giant squid eat a lot of fish, do we have the right to judge the squid for that and to kill them all so the fish can live?"(or something to that effect)

The Crystalline Entity was an organism (I won't even dignify it with the name animal) that had little to no consciousness and was flying around sterilizing whole planets, extinguishing countless eco systems, snuffing out numberless lives and driving countless other species into extinction in a monstrous gluttony that even shames the borg.
It wasn't even one of those "after the bushfire the forest grows back healthier" deal, since the planets it visited were stripped even of the fundamental ingredients of life and left as lifeless husks.

There was just no way to justify the continued existence of the Crystalline Entity

 

[Swedish Borg]

About the Silicon Avatar:

Data is really a weird thing. He doesn't understand squat about being a human or a humanoid... His attempt at being a lover was a disaster. He couldn't sense that Doctor Marr didn't really want to hear "his truth" about her son but to be reassured and that telling her "his brutal truth" served no purpose but in spite of all that, that stupid pile of circuits purports to know, to be able to anticipate what her son's feelings would have been about a hypothetical scenario. Feelings that he doesn't understand!!!!

What's wrong with this picture?

 

[Mutai Sho-Rin]

What's wrong with this picture?

Almost everything.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Why are time loop episodes almost always awesome? Stargate had an awesome time loop, Agents of SHIELD had an awesome time loop. Even the five minute time loop segment on Buffy was awesome.

 

[Farscape One]

Probably because in real life at our jobs, it feels like time keeps looping every day.