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[Anwar]

I think it would work better if they showed a series of flashbacks of how Reed and Doom were something like "Friendly rivals" from Reed's POV whereas Doom saw him as an insufferable genius type who pointed out every single flaw in Doom's experiments and theories. Finally Victor got so fed up when he saw the spaceship Reed was designing (because of how great it was) he proceeded with one of his more ambitious experiments even though Reed again pointed out the flaws, and then we get the explosion.

Thus, this sort of gives us some sympathy for Doom since Reed was an unintentional jerk to him for always pointing out his mistakes and the like (Doom's colossal Ego considering this as blasphemy) and "driving" him to the experiment that destroyed his face.

Then cut forward and Reed finds out Doom became King of Latveria, and has been spying on Reed for years. Now that he sees how Reed is Mr Fantastic he wants revenge (because now Reed is world famous, moreso than Doom).

 

[darkwing_duck1]

I think the origin of Doom was still well represented. His arrogance (overconfidence in his shields) + a reason to blame Reed (the miscalculation vis a vis the storm).

 

[Praetor]

I think it would work better if they showed a series of flashbacks of how Reed and Doom were something like "Friendly rivals" from Reed's POV whereas Doom saw him as an insufferable genius type who pointed out every single flaw in Doom's experiments and theories. Finally Victor got so fed up when he saw the spaceship Reed was designing (because of how great it was) he proceeded with one of his more ambitious experiments even though Reed again pointed out the flaws, and then we get the explosion.

Thus, this sort of gives us some sympathy for Doom since Reed was an unintentional jerk to him for always pointing out his mistakes and the like (Doom's colossal Ego considering this as blasphemy) and "driving" him to the experiment that destroyed his face.

Then cut forward and Reed finds out Doom became King of Latveria, and has been spying on Reed for years. Now that he sees how Reed is Mr Fantastic he wants revenge (because now Reed is world famous, moreso than Doom).

I like this.

 

[Technobuilder]

Sorry Darkwing, I think we're just going to have to disagree on this one.

I enjoyed aspects of the Fantastic Four films, but for the most part, I don't think they did a good job of bringing the essence of the comic series to life.

I'll also say that while I'm find with changing aspects of the story to suit an adaptation from comics to film, I didn't care for the changes that were made all that much.

Victor Von Doom became a mustache-twirling joke, and Galactus as a cloud? Seriously?

I enjoyed the Silver Surfer, Ben Grimm, & Johnny Storm.

Sue needed more backbone, Reed needed to be less like Hank Pym. (Just agreeing with whoever said it first.)

 

[Dream]

Regarding Doom, I think the best approach for him was to keep the origin closer to the original comic-book version, have him already masked when he appeared in the film, and only revisit his origins in flashbacks.

It seemed to me like Tim Story or FOX were scared that viewers would think Doom was a ripoff Darth Vader so they changed the character too much until he became a dumb corrupt CEO. I guess they forget that Dr Doom was created before Vader. They should just tried making Doom like Vader. Hire James Earl Jones to prove the voice too! That would have been badass.

 

[Anwar]

The only similarity between them is in appearance only.

 

[Praetor]

Regarding Doom, I think the best approach for him was to keep the origin closer to the original comic-book version, have him already masked when he appeared in the film, and only revisit his origins in flashbacks.

It seemed to me like Tim Story or FOX were scared that viewers would think Doom was a ripoff Darth Vader so they changed the character too much until he became a dumb corrupt CEO. I guess they forget that Dr Doom was created before Vader. They should just tried making Doom like Vader. Hire James Earl Jones to prove the voice too! That would have been badass.

Methinks you're right. And, JEJ would have been awesome.

The only similarity between them is in appearance only.

Yes, but it is a rather, erm, obvious one, isn't it?

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

Jim Hill Media passed along pictures and info from attending the Licensing International Expo 2009 (where studios promote their upcoming films to potential merchandisers) and Fox is evidently targeting 2011 (presumably summer 2011) for the Fantastic Four reboot, with an all-new cast and a darker tone.

 

[Forbin]

Jim Hill Media passed along pictures and info from attending the Licensing International Expo 2009 (where studios promote their upcoming films to potential merchandisers) and Fox is evidently targeting 2011 (presumably summer 2011) for the Fantastic Four reboot, with an all-new cast and a darker tone.

Heleluja!

 

[Praetor]

Thank Odin!

 

[darkwing_duck1]

Jim Hill Media passed along pictures and info from attending the Licensing International Expo 2009 (where studios promote their upcoming films to potential merchandisers) and Fox is evidently targeting 2011 (presumably summer 2011) for the Fantastic Four reboot, with an all-new cast and a darker tone.

Pretty much proving what Anwar has been saying in the other comic movie thread...

 

[FPAlpha]

Jim Hill Media passed along pictures and info from attending the Licensing International Expo 2009 (where studios promote their upcoming films to potential merchandisers) and Fox is evidently targeting 2011 (presumably summer 2011) for the Fantastic Four reboot, with an all-new cast and a darker tone.

Pretty much proving what Anwar has been saying in the other comic movie thread...

This time it's Miley Cyrus who'll be playing Sue Storm?

Anyway.. first time i hear of this but not that surprising. I'm not that terribly interested in FF but curious how they'll do it and what the result is. It's not unprecedent (Ang Lee's Hulk vs Norton's Hulk.. liked both movies btw for different reasons).

 

[Shazam!]

The Fantastic Four films were abosultely terrible. The cast, the stpry, the direction - all terrible.

The ideal Fantastic Four movie should begin with Reed Richards on a chat show, smoking a pipe, regaling the interviewer with how the Fantastic Four came to be.

It should almost be a period piece with 50s/60s looking sci-fi gizmos and gadgets. It should be an adventure movie, less about superheroes and more about "WTF is that?" like the Negative Zone or something.

 

[Praetor]

The Fantastic Four films were abosultely terrible. The cast, the stpry, the direction - all terrible.

The ideal Fantastic Four movie should begin with Reed Richards on a chat show, smoking a pipe, regaling the interviewer with how the Fantastic Four came to be.

It should almost be a period piece with 50s/60s looking sci-fi gizmos and gadgets. It should be an adventure movie, less about superheroes and more about "WTF is that?" like the Negative Zone or something.

Now that's awesome. Self-referentially campy, yet somewhat serious.

 

[Anwar]

They can draw inspiration from the Incredibles for that. Didn't Brad Bird say the aesthetics for that movie were supposed to be the "James Bond futuristic"? Like if they really DID have all that Bond tech back in the 60s and stuff and it advanced to modern day?

 

[Jack Bauer]

A darker tone for the Fantastic Four? WTF????

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

"Darker tone" could mean any number of things. It doesn't necessarily mean that it's going to be a very dark film. It could just mean that it's going to be played more seriously than Tim Story's FF films.

 

[Nick Ryder]

Well maybe they could work in the Skrulls and Wakanda in there, introduce Black Panther OR the Inhumans. Could be kind of interesting if they did do something with the Skrulls. Sort of take on a bit of the Secret Invasion storyline into the movie, maybe with Reed and Sue at odds because Reed's jumping at everything because he knows the Skrulls have infiltrated Earth... what would be nice is if the next FF movie could actually USE some of the other Marvel U characters, that's one thing that really sucked with the other two, there were no real hints that there were others like them. No X-Men, no Avengers, no nothin'

 

[Trent Roman]

^ Part of that is because the character rights are scattered across various film companies. Avengers and Black Panther are still with Marvel (as for Skrulls and Inhumans, I don't know, but it would surprise me if anybody bought the rights to them before Marvel decided to go it's own way), while the Fantastic Four are with Fox. But even at that, I don't think traditional film studios are keen on crossover elements (FF and X-Men, for instance).

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[CaptainCanada]

(as for Skrulls and Inhumans, I don't know, but it would surprise me if anybody bought the rights to them before Marvel decided to go it's own way)

I wouldn't be surprised if both of those are attached to the FF license, since they are most closely associated with the FF (and originated there).