The Alpha Quadrant, and presumably Earth devastated by a plague. Sounds like quite the Crusade they'd be undertaking.
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The Alpha Quadrant, and presumably Earth devastated by a plague. Sounds like quite the Crusade they'd be undertaking.
So the episode where they beam over to Guantanamo space station for supplies to find it deserted, run into a few klingons there and have to command the ship to fire photons on their position to stop them. That didn't feel too "trek parallel" to you?
What about the episode where they find the derelict space liner full of dead passengers and scavenge it for fuel?
Every episode so far with just a few terminology changes could easily be from a trek show.
Fair enough. Carry on...
So ticking off the derivations, that's Space Battleship Yamato, Star Trek (mostly TOS) and B5: Crusade. Anything else?
Star Trek: The Last Starship
Upon returning the Alpha Quadrant from a long deep space mission the crew of the USS Nathan James is shocked to find the Federation (and others including the Klingon Empire) completely devastated from killers nanites that had escaped from an experiment gone wrong. The crew learns they must locate a missing scientist that maybe the only way to wiping out the nanites.
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Upon returning the Alpha Quadrant from a long deep space mission the crew of the USS Nathan James is shocked to find the Federation (and others including the Klingon Empire) completely devastated from killers nanites that had escaped from an experiment gone wrong. The crew learns they must locate a missing scientist that maybe the only way to wiping out the nanites.
Coming soon to a CBS channel near you!
Ok let the petitions to CBS start!!
So the episode where they beam over to Guantanamo space station for supplies to find it deserted, run into a few klingons there and have to command the ship to fire photons on their position to stop them. That didn't feel too "trek parallel" to you?
What about the episode where they find the derelict space liner full of dead passengers and scavenge it for fuel?
Every episode so far with just a few terminology changes could easily be from a trek show.
Fair enough. Carry on...
So ticking off the derivations, that's Space Battleship Yamato, Star Trek (mostly TOS) and B5: Crusade. Anything else?
BSG big time!
Last Battlestar (until the found the Pegasus that is), last ship, last hope for humanity, etc... Russian admiral = TOS Baltar.
So the episode where they beam over to Guantanamo space station for supplies to find it deserted, run into a few klingons there and have to command the ship to fire photons on their position to stop them. That didn't feel too "trek parallel" to you?
What about the episode where they find the derelict space liner full of dead passengers and scavenge it for fuel?
Every episode so far with just a few terminology changes could easily be from a trek show.
Fair enough. Carry on...
So ticking off the derivations, that's Space Battleship Yamato, Star Trek (mostly TOS) and B5: Crusade. Anything else?
BSG big time!
Last Battlestar (until the found the Pegasus that is), last ship, last hope for humanity, etc... Russian admiral = TOS Baltar.
Doesn't count. Nathan James isn't leading a fleet of civilian ships...yet. Who knows what they've got planned for season two?
And now I'm picturing the Nathan James with a bunch of civilian ships behind it sailing through the ocean with the original BSG theme playing.
For me, it's not so guilty. The show is entertaining and not too mind-numbing. I liked seeing the infected on the shore. With everything happening on and near the ship, it's easy to forget what's going on in the rest of the world. Without the reminders, it smacks of original BSG, where, after "Saga of a Star World" no one seemed to concerned with the tragedy that happened.
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Nah, as I've said before, let's have an alternate universe Trek reboot in which all the major species evolved on the same planet. Bring on the Klingons in battleships and Rommies in subs!Star Trek: The Last Starship
Upon returning the Alpha Quadrant from a long deep space mission the crew of the USS Nathan James is shocked to find the Federation (and others including the Klingon Empire) completely devastated from killers nanites that had escaped from an experiment gone wrong. The crew learns they must locate a missing scientist that maybe the only way to wiping out the nanites.
Coming soon to a CBS channel near you!
Ok let the petitions to CBS start!!
Also, that wasn't the only time pressure. They needed to wrap everything up by the end of the hour, and they still had at least one commercial break to go.
That's probably closer to the truth!Other than the loudspeaker plan, I agree. I did think the Captain was being adversarial rather than diplomatic considering the situation. I mean hell . . . didn't the drug lord pretty much DO the mission for him (by giving him monkeys)?
I was also expecting the older daughter to be rescued. Knowing everyone has a plague I think I'd be avoiding them at all costs. Its not like they are zombies chasing down uninfected people because "misery loves company". Even the color of her dress (bright) made me think they were setting up for her later rescue. Then again . . . maybe that was just edited out or removed later for reasons of length.
Well, maybe they could have used a loudspeaker warning in conjuction with an attack, warning everyone to hit the deck and not resist arrest or face lethal force? Alternatively, if they were able to capture El Toro, maybe they could bring down his regime without killing most or all his mooks. Maybe if the ep had been a two-parter, we could have gotten clarity on how many SEALS are left, see them properly plan out an assault, and resolve the situation with the older daughter.
Was also kinda disturbed by Slattery's comment about the kind of damage a Tomahaw can do, while surrounded by obvious civilians. The XO was implying what, exactly?
Not to mention, I know it's a new world where rules of civilization don't fully apply anymore, but IIRC they were rude and demanding to El Toro even before they learned how much of a baddie he was. Uh, you guys are the ones launching an armed incursion into a foreign country. Being polite and diplomatic would only be professional.
Was also kinda disturbed by Slattery's comment about the kind of damage a Tomahaw can do, while surrounded by obvious civilians. The XO was implying what, exactly?
Not to mention, I know it's a new world where rules of civilization don't fully apply anymore, but IIRC they were rude and demanding to El Toro even before they learned how much of a baddie he was. Uh, you guys are the ones launching an armed incursion into a foreign country. Being polite and diplomatic would only be professional.
Well, maybe they could have used a loudspeaker warning in conjuction with an attack, warning everyone to hit the deck and not resist arrest or face lethal force? Alternatively, if they were able to capture El Toro, maybe they could bring down his regime without killing most or all his mooks. Maybe if the ep had been a two-parter, we could have gotten clarity on how many SEALS are left, see them properly plan out an assault, and resolve the situation with the older daughter.
Was also kinda disturbed by Slattery's comment about the kind of damage a Tomahaw can do, while surrounded by obvious civilians. The XO was implying what, exactly?
Not to mention, I know it's a new world where rules of civilization don't fully apply anymore, but IIRC they were rude and demanding to El Toro even before they learned how much of a baddie he was. Uh, you guys are the ones launching an armed incursion into a foreign country. Being polite and diplomatic would only be professional.
Not to mention, why was El Toro so eager to be arrested at the end? Did he not realize that the US government (like every other government) had pretty much ceased to function? Had he not been keeping up with current events? "Let's go El Toro . . . we are going to take you to our ship where you will be safe and well treated while we arrange for your extradition back to the US!!!" WTF was that? (other than a quick and easy conclusion for a final standoff)
It's not like you could say that type of response was warranted from the professional and diplomatic treatment Captain Chandler had shown him from the rest of the episode. Like you mentioned. Chandler had been a major a-hole the whole time with nothing but orders and threats as his only means of negotiation.
The element of surprise is a HUGE advantage in combat. If it were me, screw the loudspeaker. Just surround the area and chuck in some CS gas. We'll see how well those gang members fight when they can't see or breath. Is there any doubt that when face with superior forces that most of those guys wouldn't just lay down their arms anyways?
But I guess we don't watch the show for tips on squad level tactics.
I interpreted that as El Toro thinking a heavily armed ship at sea is probably the safest place to be to avoid infection, even if he is kept there as a prisoner.
Although, this has me wondering, does the Nathan James have a brig? I know WWII destroyers didn't, but that was 70+ years ago. But then, Quincy is kept in a crew cabin and has been since he was caught, so maybe no brig?
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I wouldn't go that far yet, as if it WAS "Space Battleship Arleigh Burke"; we'd have had a main character death by now.
Mister Fandango
Fleet Captain
What I wanna know is who the hell is Nathan James and why does he have a destroyer named after him?
Mister Fandango
Fleet Captain
Feel free to do it yourself, asshole. (Hint: There is no info.)
Fandango, Arleigh Burke class destroyers are mainly named for admirals or other important people in US Naval History (hence, Arleigh Burke class), so just imagine Nathan James is some obscure naval hero from an old war. That's probably about as close as you'll get to an answer.
The novel says Nathan James was a sailor killed in WWII who was awarded a lot of medals for bravery. I'm guessing since a Google search for Nathan James only turns up stuff for the show or novel that the name and the sailor are entirely fictional. Presumably the same applies for the show.
A fictional hero for a fictional ship. From the book:
"She was named the Nathan James after a young ensign who had received the Navy Cross for valor in the Second Battle of the Philippine Sea in World War II."