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The Last Ship - Discussion Thread (spoilers possible)

Gaith said:
Not a great ep for the Captain, who seems to lack even a high schooler's understanding of the vagaries of the scientific progress. The sensible thing to do would be to stay in that Nicaraguan bay for some time, letting the crew socialize with the freed town, helping them build some houses, etc., and killing a s***-ton of monkeys in the name of Science!.

That said, it was a pretty compelling ep for a bottle show, even though I'm 95% sure that even if you're past your EAOS (end of active obligated service) date, you're not out until you're discharged, and even then you're usually in the inactive Reserves for a while anyway, so the Master Chief's comment that "technically, these guys aren't even in the Navy any more" was just plain wrong.

Not perfect, and the writing isn't HBO-level or anything, but the ship feels a heck of a lot more like a real ship with all sorts of people on it than Voyager did.
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While mingling with the locals might be good for moral (at least for those who spoke Spanish), given an environment that comes with a global pandemic it is probably a bad idea. Now that you have killed off most of the personnel who guaranteed that infected locals didn't infiltrate the camp its probably only a matter of time before some desperate infected make it across the river, bypass the traps and reach the camp hoping for a way to survive. And who knows the incubation period for the people there. Someone could have been exposed to infected survivors, keep it a secret out of fear of being cast out and be a menace to anyone they come in contact to.

Are you going to put your shore leave party in suits? Are you going to test everyone who went ashore when they return to the ship? The doctor keeps saying that one infected crewmember could doom the entire crew. You might want to play it safe with interacting with the outside world until you have that vaccine in the interest of the greater good.

As for the episode, I was wondering if they used the oxygen tanks if they had a way of replenishing it. Also, since they have more crewmembers than suits . . . who were the unlucky (or lucky as it turns out) bastards who didn't have to suit up?
 
How can there be more crew than suits? Don't all sailors have their own MOPP 4 suit like soldiers do?
 
Gaith said:
That said, it was a pretty compelling ep for a bottle show, even though I'm 95% sure that even if you're past your EAOS (end of active obligated service) date, you're not out until you're discharged, and even then you're usually in the inactive Reserves for a while anyway, so the Master Chief's comment that "technically, these guys aren't even in the Navy any more" was just plain wrong.
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Agreed, plus the president can suspend all that anyway if a national emergency is declared.
 
Gaith said:
the ship feels a heck of a lot more like a real ship with all sorts of people on it than Voyager did.
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Honestly, the only Trek series that felt like an authentic ship was TOS. And I say that as someone who enjoys and defends Berman Trek.
 
Did anyone else notice the picture of the USCG Cutter in the break room they were in in the 1st 1/2 of the ep? Was a Black Hull ship, so most like a buoy tender or construction ship. odd place for a picture of a ship from another branch of service. You can see it plain behind Dr. Scott around the time the Captain called in the lock-down.
 
Paulcpick said:
Did anyone else notice the picture of the USCG Cutter in the break room they were in in the 1st 1/2 of the ep? Was a Black Hull ship, so most like a buoy tender or construction ship. odd place for a picture of a ship from another branch of service. You can see it plain behind Dr. Scott around the time the Captain called in the lock-down.
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I thought that was this image of an Arleigh Burke class ship?
 
The Wormhole said:
Paulcpick said:
Did anyone else notice the picture of the USCG Cutter in the break room they were in in the 1st 1/2 of the ep? Was a Black Hull ship, so most like a buoy tender or construction ship. odd place for a picture of a ship from another branch of service. You can see it plain behind Dr. Scott around the time the Captain called in the lock-down.
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I thought that was this image of an Arleigh Burke class ship?
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Wormhole's right. It's a Burke. Simple to tell. No stripes going up the sides, not US Coast Guard.
 
He's talking about this:
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It looks kind of like the old surface effect patrol boats, but maybe not quite. Maybe an artist's redition of a next-gen SE vessel? The water jets out the side are a giveaway. Anyway, no idea why that picture would be up there but my guess would be that it's a fictional CG vessel which had some kind of interaction with Nathan James.
 
J.T.B. said:
He's talking about this:
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It looks kind of like the old surface effect patrol boats, but maybe not quite. Maybe an artist's redition of a next-gen SE vessel? The water jets out the side are a giveaway. Anyway, no idea why that picture would be up there but my guess would be that it's a fictional CG vessel which had some kind of interaction with Nathan James.
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I stand corrected.

Obviously I wouldn't actually see any picture Rhona was standing directly in front of...

You're also right about it being a Surface Effect patrol boat. I tried to link a page showing it but the BBS is not cooperating...
 
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Admiral2 said:
Obviously I wouldn't actually see any picture Rhona was standing directly in front of...
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I'm still staring at the posted screencap and don't see any pictures of boats, USN, USCG or otherwise. ;)

Interestingly enough, I think Chandler was standing in front of the Arleigh Burke picture. Funny I had no problem noticing that picture.
 
Ok seeing this thread hang around for so long made me curious to finally check this show out, and I gotta say the first ep was actually pretty decent.

The story was definitely a bit too rushed, and I had a hard time buying that 80% of the world's population had really been killed off in a period of only 4 months. But the show has such a great, big budget, summer movie kind of feel to it, and it's not often you see a show set on an actual Navy battleship, so I'll probably stick with it for awhile just for that.

Plus, it's got Adam Baldwin in it, so that helps.
 
davejames said:
Lol. What, does the ship go kablooey in episode 2?
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No, it's just that you meant "warship," not "battleship." I know what you meant, but the internet being what it is I was anticipating soembody jumping in with a technical correction.
 
J.T.B. said:
davejames said:
Lol. What, does the ship go kablooey in episode 2?
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No, it's just that you meant "warship," not "battleship." I know what you meant, but the internet being what it is I was anticipating soembody jumping in with a technical correction.
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:shrug: Lots of people's definition of "battleship" consists of "Well it's in the navy and it shoots stuff, so it's a battleship, right? Just like in the movie with Rihanna!"
 
Oh jeez. Are people not in the military really expected to know the terms for all the different ships and hardware out there?

Just be glad I didn't call it an aircraft carrier. :p
 
Ex-military guys always like to act like they're keenly aware of every detail about the military. Most also watch special forces-type shows/movies and go "dude, that's totally what I did back in the day" in their heads. Even if the only thing they did while in the military was wash dishes in the galley. Worse still, they then try to get snobby about the precious few things they do know (or spend twenty minutes looking up so they can pretend that they knew it), and snub their noses at the ignorant "laymen" who are so stupid that they don't know such trivial things. OMFG. <hair toss>

The same thing happens with anyone who's shot a gun at a firing range before, at least in regards to being an "expert" on firearms and ballistics.

It's kind of sad, really, but impossible to get away from. Just part of the human psyche, apparently.
 
^^^Um, I've never been in the military and I'm not a Special Forces wannabe. I know what I know because I'm a naval enthusiast and there are plenty of open sources of information that explain basic shit like the difference between a battleship and a destroyer. I'm only a little disheartened that more people don't avail themselves of them. They can actually be quite interesting.
 
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