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The Last Jedi - Actually Widely Hated?

It's part of the Disneyland admission... it's not its own park. There is a lot of confusion about that.

I can't tell you how many people said the same thing to me. "Whoaaaa...isn't GE expensive?"

Well, no. Well, yes. Well, it's Disneyland. It's not NOT expensive. But you're not paying for GE, you're paying for Disneyland.

Yes, it's expensive. Yes, the prices went up. But the prices didn't, like, double or anything. They went up a small amount. But DLR was already expensive. So, yes, it's not cheap.

But "Galaxy's Edge" doesn't cost $100 or $150 or whatever. The entire park does
 
I can't tell you how many people said the same thing to me. "Whoaaaa...isn't GE expensive?"

Well, no. Well, yes. Well, it's Disneyland. It's not NOT expensive. But you're not paying for GE, you're paying for Disneyland.

Yes, it's expensive. Yes, the prices went up. But the prices didn't, like, double or anything. They went up a small amount. But DLR was already expensive. So, yes, it's not cheap.

But "Galaxy's Edge" doesn't cost $100 or $150 or whatever. The entire park does
Basically terrible marketing by Disney. Nobody knows what the hell this "land" is, how it works, or what's in it.
 
I've been reading the flagship series and just finished up the first Darth Vader series and I've been loving them both. I read the first collection of Poe Dameron and really enjoyed it, and on the miniseries front so far I've read Han Solo, Princess Leia, Obi-Wan and Anakin, and Shattered Empire and enjoyed them all.

The last Star Wars book series I really got into was Michael A Stackpole's X-Wing series, which took place within a year or two of ROTJ. Really liked them, and it wouldn't take much to get them to fit with the new canon either.

I particularly liked the part where Rogue Squadron have infiltrated Coruscant, and rather than sit on their hands in a crappy low-rent apartment, they decide to go see a movie, because movies are apparently a thing in the Star Wars universe. The one they choose is called something like "Sacrifice at Endor" and is basically ROTJ as an Imperial propaganda film.
 
Which is sort of double funny since at least two of the Rogues were at Endor and did the run into the Death Star II. Wedge being the obvious one since he's shares the kills with Lando for that one, and he has pretty much the only fighter with two Death Star runs one it. The only other craft that can match that is the Millennium Falcon and perhaps the fighter of Evaan Verlaine (the Y-wing pilot that survived Yavin) assuming she was at Endor (she was still around in Republic service post-Endor).

(In the novels, Tycho Celchu, flying a A-wing at the battle into the Death Star II, was the other Rogue who was present at Endor. I don't recall right now if either of them went to the propaganda film, presented by a heroic Vader if I recall, talking about the Emperor's stand against the terrorists at Endor.)
 
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I take it Evaan Verlaine is the canon version of Keyan Farlander?

Yes. They have her in the current comics immediately post-Yavin (like right after the victory ceremony) as the Y-wing survivor and a very loyal Alderanaan who Leia becomes friends with on missions. She also appears in the Aftermath novels.
 
Basically terrible marketing by Disney. Nobody knows what the hell this "land" is, how it works, or what's in it.

Not really. Disney usually doesn't get this kind of confusion when a new attraction or even a new land opens up. People didn't shit their pants when Toy Story Land or Toon Town opened up, wondering if it was somehow a separate admission or something or that "Guardians of the Galaxy" was suddenly going to "cost" more.

Granted, the average person obviously doesn't give much thought to how Disney pricing and admissions works, but I also don't blame them for assuming that people just instinctively understood what this kind of expansion meant, since the parks have always featured multiple lands with their own identities and attractions since day one.
 
Not really. Disney usually doesn't get this kind of confusion when a new attraction or even a new land opens up. People didn't shit their pants when Toy Story Land or Toon Town opened up, wondering if it was somehow a separate admission or something or that "Guardians of the Galaxy" was suddenly going to "cost" more.

Granted, the average person obviously doesn't give much thought to how Disney pricing and admissions works, but I also don't blame them for assuming that people just instinctively understood what this kind of expansion meant, since the parks have always featured multiple lands with their own identities and attractions since day one.
Understanding your audience is a part of marketing. Clearly Disney didn't understand that their audience would be so utterly confused.
 
Yes. They have her in the current comics immediately post-Yavin (like right after the victory ceremony) as the Y-wing survivor and a very loyal Alderanaan who Leia becomes friends with on missions. She also appears in the Aftermath novels.
Nice, so she’s basically equal parts Keyan Farlander and Tycho Celchu. It never made much sense to me how in the old EU, the Rebel brass didn’t trust Tycho because of his background as an Imperial pilot, when it seems like half the rebellion are disillusioned former Imperial types.
 
Wasn't it more he got captured and they'd had too many brainwashed spies sent back into the Alliance? Its been a long time since I read those novels. I remember that Biggs was an ex-Imperial who jumped ships, as were some others. Tycho switched after Alderaan was destroyed, as did a lot of Alderaanians who had been loyal to the Empire up until their homeworld was blown up. A few stayed with the Empire, seeing Alderaan's destruction as the royal family's fault and that they betrayed the Emperor and while the Organa family deserved it, the destruction of the whole planet, while much, was somehow justified (likely due to listening to early Imperial propaganda....well probably not the ones that made the Death Star out to be an Aldreraan built weapon, or that they Empire blew up the planet to prevent them from blowing up other planets loyal to the Empire).
 
Yeah that could be it, it’s been forever since I’ve read them too, but I seem to remember the distrust was there even before his stretch in the brainwashing prison.

Also, it seems like in the old EU, Imperial propaganda was mostly of the “lie your ass off and do it so egregiously that nobody can be sure of anything” variety.
 
Understanding your audience is a part of marketing. Clearly Disney didn't understand that their audience would be so utterly confused.

This kind of thing has literally never happened before in 75 years of park expansions. It's not Disney's fault people are stupid.

The equivalent is people thinking Netflix was going to be more expensive because they suddenly added "Stranger Things."
 
Yeah that could be it, it’s been forever since I’ve read them too, but I seem to remember the distrust was there even before his stretch in the brainwashing prison.

Also, it seems like in the old EU, Imperial propaganda was mostly of the “lie your ass off and do it so egregiously that nobody can be sure of anything” variety.

If I recall, the Empire had near total control of the Holonets, and thus anything that happened on in the Empire was censored or just flat out propaganda until spacers or Rebels could deliver news to a planet directly, or splice into the Holonet and send out some transmissions. It was even worse in the Core Worlds, since the Rebellion couldn't operate in there very easily. Most Core Worlds would believe Palpatine's lies unless he pulled something that directly effected them. While the older EU novels I think had Palpatine is robes and all, it would make sense for him to use old holos of himself as Chancellor (before the end of the Clone Wars) and aged up to remain believable, rather than scare people with his actual visage. They could even spin Darth Vader into heroics, should they need to (though he was likely kept as quiet most of the time. The Enforcer is not someone the public needs to be aware of....until he arrives).
 
Thanks for reminding me, I’ve got a stack of Star Wars books, both old and new EU, I still haven’t read yet.
 
If I recall, the Empire had near total control of the Holonets, and thus anything that happened on in the Empire was censored or just flat out propaganda until spacers or Rebels could deliver news to a planet directly, or splice into the Holonet and send out some transmissions. It was even worse in the Core Worlds, since the Rebellion couldn't operate in there very easily. Most Core Worlds would believe Palpatine's lies unless he pulled something that directly effected them.
Which is both funny and now very odd to me, because in the Special Edition Coruscant is show celebrating the Emperor's death.
 
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