"The Journey Home" and Nemesis question (Trek XI spoilers)

[MJackson09]

Okay so I was a little confused about a small detail that I noticed...So Nero destroys Vulcan because he believes Spock caused the destruction of Romulas. In the movie, when the Enterprise crew goes back to find the whales, the movie starts off with the crew on Vulcan with the stolen Klingon spacecraft, also Spock is talking to his mother as he regains his memories. How can that happen if Nero destroys Vulcan and Spock's mother dies in that event? Also, in 'Star Trek Nemisis' the movie starts with scenes on Romulas, but it was destroyed, how can that be?

 

[Borg7of7]

Re: "The Journey Home" and Nemesis question

It's all part of the "Alternate timeline"...Since those occurrances happened after Nero (and the old Spock from the other timeline) changed the past, those events never happen in this timeline. Technically, everything that happened after Nero came through the black hole at the beginning of the movie, was part of an entirely new change of events.

 

[nx1701g]

Re: "The Journey Home" and Nemesis question

^ As explained in the film in a sense.

The previous 40 years of Trek still happened, in another timeline. Think of it as a Mirror Universe that isn't evil.

 

[UssGlenn]

Re: "The Journey Home" and Nemesis question

and to answer your question about Nemesis, Romulus is destroyed in the original timeline but not until several years after the events depicted in Nemesis.

 

[Rarewolf]

Re: "The Journey Home" and Nemesis question

It's all part of the "Alternate timeline"...Since those occurrances happened after Nero (and the old Spock from the other timeline) changed the past, those events never happen in this timeline.

That probe would still be out there though, it would still come looking for the Whales. Spock won't have Vulcan computers to look them up on though.

^ As explained in the film in a sense.
The previous 40 years of Trek still happened, in another timeline. Think of it as a Mirror Universe that isn't evil.

It's easy; Star Trek XX - following the destruction of Earth, Kirk goes back in time to stop Nero killing his dad, putting the timeline back on track.

 

[FormerLurker]

Those were Klingon computers.

 

[The Wormhole]

Okay so I was a little confused about a small detail that I noticed...So Nero destroys Vulcan because he believes Spock caused the destruction of Romulas. In the movie, when the Enterprise crew goes back to find the whales, the movie starts off with the crew on Vulcan with the stolen Klingon spacecraft, also Spock is talking to his mother as he regains his memories. How can that happen if Nero destroys Vulcan and Spock's mother dies in that event? Also, in 'Star Trek Nemisis' the movie starts with scenes on Romulas, but it was destroyed, how can that be?

The destruction of Romulus doesn't happen until eight years after Nemesis. Meanwhile, in regards to Vulcan's situation, Trek XI is an alternate timeline, which is made clear in the movie itself.

 

[NIUPonyBoy]

Re: "The Journey Home" and Nemesis question

^ As explained in the film in a sense.

The previous 40 years of Trek still happened, in another timeline. Think of it as a Mirror Universe that isn't evil.

Slightly less evil. lol

 

[Sci]

Okay so I was a little confused about a small detail that I noticed...So Nero destroys Vulcan because he believes Spock caused the destruction of Romulas. In the movie, when the Enterprise crew goes back to find the whales, the movie starts off with the crew on Vulcan with the stolen Klingon spacecraft, also Spock is talking to his mother as he regains his memories. How can that happen if Nero destroys Vulcan and Spock's mother dies in that event? Also, in 'Star Trek Nemisis' the movie starts with scenes on Romulas, but it was destroyed, how can that be?

The new Star Trek movie takes place in a different timeline than the original series and films. The characters say so when they talk about how Nero has changed history so that no one can anticipate what will happen anymore.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Those were Klingon computers.

Upgraded with Vulcan and Starfleet components during their three months exile between STs III and IV.

 

[Anwar]

Spock was accessing the Federation database in Trek IV, not the Klingon ship's own databanks. He said something about how he had configured the Klingonc computers to interface with local datanodes.

Basically, Spock looked the whale stuff up on the net.

 

[UncleRogi]

Those were Klingon computers.

Darn those Klingons anyway...and not a one of them can spell...well maybe the ones without bones in their forehead....

 

[Sci]

Spock was accessing the Federation database in Trek IV, not the Klingon ship's own databanks. He said something about how he had configured the Klingonc computers to interface with local datanodes.

Basically, Spock looked the whale stuff up on the net.

Wikipedia saves the world!

 

[mattyhugh]

Re: "The Journey Home" and Nemesis question

Spock won't have Vulcan computers to look them up on though.

But we have Spock Prime to fill them in