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The James Bond Film Discussion Thread (With Bonus Lazenby!)

Never thought we'd be talking baseball on a James Bond thread, must say.
Agreed. James Bond traipses all around the world except Antarctica, where scantily-clad women freeze all too quickly. Baseball, in comparison, is basically virile middle-class blokes running around in localized American squares for 150 minutes plus.*

(*Fast forward any BB game and it becomes painfully clear.)
 
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Agreed. James Bond traipses all around the world except Antarctica, where scantily-clad women freeze all too quickly. Baseball, in comparison, is basically virile middle-class blokes running around in localized American squares for 150 minutes plus.*

(*Fast forward any BB game and it becomes painfully clear.)

Antarctica is sorted in First Light
 
We almost got a cricket scene in Bond of course.

Have people seen this? The woman who cast Dalton, Brosnan and Craig weighs in and says Turner and Elordi are too well known.

 
Have people seen this? The woman who cast Dalton, Brosnan and Craig weighs in and says Turner and Elordi are too well known.


Obviously she has cast more Bonds than I have. But Brosnan was cast because he was well known. I'd imagine you could say the same for Moore.

Dalton and Craig were largely unknown, sure. And if they were known they weren't known for being "Bond-like". But the moment Brosnan showed up in a bow tie people started shouting "Bond"!
 
I'm not so sure any of them were "unknown" really. Except for Lazenby, they all did something previously. Heck, the "Danie Craig is Not Bond" aka Blonde Bond campaign was because DC was known from Layer Cake and judged purely on that performance.
 
We almost got a cricket scene in Bond of course.

Have people seen this? The woman who cast Dalton, Brosnan and Craig weighs in and says Turner and Elordi are too well known.

Great interview and I hope Amazon are taking heed
 
Heck, the "Danie Craig is Not Bond" aka Blonde Bond campaign was because DC was known from Layer Cake and judged purely on that performance.
Craig had done a lot more than Layer Cake. He's in an early Sharpe as a villain, and he was Paul Newman's violent and unhinged son in Road to Perdition. I'm not sure that I saw Layer Cake until after Craig was announced, but based on Perdition I thought he'd be fine as Bond.
 
Brosnan was only known for tv though, same with Moore. They were both in hugely successful shows but plenty of tv actors can't transition to film.
Sure. But there's a big difference between "Not a movie star" and "Not very well known".

By that criteria Henry Winkler was not very well known.

And yes, Brosnan didn't really find success as a leading man until after he finally made it as Bond. Of course he also wasn't in any movies that were GOOD until he finally made it as Bond. He was this close to being Cary Elwes.
 
Craig had done a lot more than Layer Cake. He's in an early Sharpe as a villain, and he was Paul Newman's violent and unhinged son in Road to Perdition. I'm not sure that I saw Layer Cake until after Craig was announced, but based on Perdition I thought he'd be fine as Bond.
Layer Cake was repeatedly used as the basis for the argument against him being Bond back in the day. I remember it vividly.
 
Craig had done a lot more than Layer Cake. He's in an early Sharpe as a villain, and he was Paul Newman's violent and unhinged son in Road to Perdition. I'm not sure that I saw Layer Cake until after Craig was announced, but based on Perdition I thought he'd be fine as Bond.

He'd also done the first Tomb Raider film, Spielberg's Munich and Enduring Love before Bond. And of course he'd done Our Friends in the North with Doctor Who ;)

I freely admit I was very dismissive when he was cast as Bond. That lasted precisely until I saw the first trailer...

I still have some issues with Casino Royale* (it's too long, the pacing is off and at times it almost feels embarrassed to be a Bond movie) but Craig is perfect in it.

*I say that but would still consider it my 6th or 7th favourite Bond film.
 
Perhaps because Brosnan was my Bond (same way Eccleston was my Doctor), I had a fairly difficult time adjusting to Craig, mostly because the discourse back then made the distinction (not incorrectly) that Brosnan's dismissal seemed like an indecent way of saying that the Brosnan era was cartoony and needed to change, with Brosnan gone (the countless "Roger Moore 2.0 is finally gone, before he had to facelift" posts, I swear). I do admit I didn't like that he was dismissed without the effort of making a Bond film to close out his era with more dignity than DAD (which is a fairly underrated entry, mind).

That said, as soon as the movie started, I was all in. Or, rather, all chips were in? Anyway.
 
Setting aside any critical assessment of DAD (and for the record the first half at least is a decent Bond movie IMO) it still made a shit ton of money, so dropping Brosnan was a hell of gamble, they could have just done what they'd done in the late 70s and followed the most preposterous Bond film of all time with a much grittier and more grounded film, but kept the same 007. I know Pierce has said you could have done CR as Bond's last mission rather than his first. Remember Bros would have been 53 in 2006 so if he had done another one it likely would have been his last anyway.
 
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